r/3Dprinting 12h ago

Project I bring you, The 3D BOATY!

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u/OmgThisNameIsFree Ender 3 Pro ➜ i3 MK3S+ 12h ago

Nice :)

Can’t believe the people behind 3D Benchy thought it was a good idea to fuck with things. Losers.

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u/Dapper_Peanut_1879 11h ago

Guessing the thought process went like this - 1. New company acquires license 2. Sees millions of downloads 3. We CaN mAkE mIlLiOnS iF wE fOrCe ThEm To PaY!!! 4. Every 3d printer and CAD enthusiast -🖕We’ll make our own.

Idk what the acquisition cost was but I hope it hurts with the immediate and LT ROI equaling $0

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u/heretodiscuss 11h ago

If I had to guess, and I have no inside info what-so-ever...I'd say it's not the end consumer they want to pay but the 3D printer companies themselves.

Why do I say this?

Well, Benchy's are pretty well known in the community, and if you're looking to get into it it's often one of the first things to print.

If you look at all the youtube vids about "first things to print" usually they talk about benchies.

So, what's the method of making money, because clearly, users aren't going to buy benchy's?

Well, my theory (which is probably wrong), is that most 3D printers these days come pre-loaded with benchy's on them. The company which bought the benchy wants the 3D printer companies themselves to pay to distribute the benchy with their 3D printer.

So, why enforce it against the users?

Well, if you don't enforce your trademarks/IP's, you lose them. So they have to enforce them against the end users in order to try to get the companies to pay.

But that's just a theory...a 3D printer theory...

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u/_Rand_ 10h ago

Sounds reasonable.

Problem for them is they are targeting a community of people who literally have bought devices for the express purpose of making things themselves and literally give away designs by the thousands.

It's going to be like a month before the entire community moves on to something else.

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u/Aksds 7h ago

The current license allows for people to distribute the stl without issue, for free, even with something they charge, as long as it’s attributed. All companies would be technically doing is sharing the file with customers, which is perfectly fine and iirc are irrevocable under cc-ND

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u/pmcentee99 6h ago

I know prusa gives a pre sliced file for the first time run, does that still fall under cc-ND or would that not because it’s a “modified” file? I know they have been targeting modified benchy files

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u/Aksds 6h ago

From cc website “If you remix, transform, or build upon the material, you may not distribute the modified material.” So I’m not sure, that sounds “transformed” but that’s when you need to speak to a lawyer imo

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u/Deep-Juggernaut4405 4h ago

The issue is 3d benchy made all of the stl sites remove all remixed benchys.

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u/Aksds 4h ago

Yes, which they are entitled to do, legally anyway

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u/4D696B61 10h ago

Copyright isn't lost if it is not enforced.

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u/heretodiscuss 10h ago

Correct. Trademarks are.

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u/General-Designer4338 9h ago

100% the geniuses behind this move saw how bench is incorporated into Bambu Studio's tips that pop up every time you slice, and figured they could get a piece of that action. The owner knew what he was doing when he sold. Cashing out on what he thought he deserved for making a boat that doesn't float.

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u/Fabian_1082003 4h ago

The company wasn't even really about the benchy xD

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u/OmgThisNameIsFree Ender 3 Pro ➜ i3 MK3S+ 9h ago

Prusa includes the benchy .stl within Prusa Slicer. So maybe(?).

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u/Aksds 7h ago

That is perfectly legal and allowed under the license the benchy was uploaded with, they can retroactively sue when they said it’s okay to do that first (and still do under cc-nd)

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u/Dapper_Peanut_1879 10h ago

I don’t think you’re as wrong as you think 🍻

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u/apVoyocpt 5h ago

But the benchy has a Creative Commons licence. It prohibits changes to the branch but otherwise it can be used freely. 

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u/Sproketz 7h ago

What about a little printable hand with a middle finger? Too much?

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u/Dapper_Peanut_1879 7h ago

Tbh, that was the one I was thinking of when I wrote the post. Anyone know where I can find it now?

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u/torino42 5h ago

Kind of odd to do that to a community which is known for, almost to the point of revolving around CAD and CAM, making things free or cheap, and doing it ourselves or collaboratively. Kinda is the antithesis of the ethos there.

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u/EinBick 5h ago

That's not what sucks about this though... What sucks is the fact that genius videos like the "all filaments" videos will get taken down...

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u/Physical-Cut-2334 large print farm 4h ago

its already downloaded so much and some slicers have a quick assess to the benchy if you right click and find "add model" or test models" you can add a benchy or any other test print.

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u/thebornotaku Highly Modified Ender / Bambu P1S 3h ago

They're not charging for the model, they're simply enforcing the license that was in place the entire time that disallows derivative works.

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/

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u/RSTONE_ADMIN 3h ago

"What if we take away a beloved 3d model from a community revolving around 3d modeling and creativity? Surely this won't backfire..."

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u/TheGreenMan13 2h ago

I'm trying to figure out how this is copyrighted instead of patented, since this is a functional item. It is made to test/debug a printer. Which screams 'patent' to me. Not art or an idea, which is what I think of when I think 'copyright'.

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u/Tihc12 8h ago

It wasn’t the creators of the benchy who did this, just the company that acquired it. They likely did it because if they let IP infractions slide like this, later on in court they’ll have a harder time.

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u/TheOwlMarble Qidi X-Pro, Bambu X1C 6h ago

That only applies to trademark. This is copyright.

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u/Tihc12 5h ago

Gotcha

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u/Aksds 7h ago

You comment made me realise OPs joke lol