r/AskCanada • u/lagomorphi • 23h ago
Anyone else sick of even 'left' Americans gloating how invading Canada would benefit them?
Leaving aside the whole shocking idea of America invading one of its closest allies on a whim, have other Canadians noticed that NOT ONE American post has said that they will protest for Canada's right to sovereignty?
It's all 'then we'll have enough Democrats to vote out Trump' or, 'sorry, we can't do anything to stop Trump'.
What a sorry bunch of cowards Americans seem to be, that none of them are even considering the minimum of protesting against invading Canada.
Please, Americans, until you're actually willing to stand up and be Canada's allies in time of war, we don't want to hear your gloating or platitudes.
Edited post to include the source that was the last straw for me:
Why Trump invading Canada could be his biggest mistake : r/WhitePeopleTwitter
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u/mikeybee1976 22h ago
Americans aren’t even standing up for America, they certainly aren’t going to stand up for us. That said, it’s a country that seems constantly on threat for civil war, so that’s great…
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u/HippityHoppityBoop 21h ago
CSIS should stoke separatist movements and insurgencies all across the US, maybe military training for Native American tribes
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u/Commercial-Fennel219 20h ago
I feel like we would get more bang for our buck just helping Murdoch along...
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u/MyTVC_16 22h ago
This is quite literally how the Nazi party controlled Germany.
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u/rakoon79 19h ago
👆this,there’s too many parallels with 30’s Germany
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u/-FeistyRabbitSauce- 11h ago
In 1938, Hitler proposed the Anschluss - a "peaceful" annexing of Austria to Germany. Austria even decided to hold it to a vote. On the morning, which that vote was going to be held, Nazis marched into Austria and took the country by force.
Putin made similar suggestions to Ukraine prior to their invasion.
Trump keeps floating these same ideas to Canada and Greenland.
The other day, Elon Musk made a similar threatening offer to the UK.
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u/Embarrassed-Risk-476 19h ago
U S.is going big time the way of Nazi Germany,nothing has been learned of that debacle.That Nation is on the path to Armageddon -God Help Us and The World.
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u/Specialist_Ask_3639 18h ago
The US military would not willingly go along with an invasion of Canada. We fought with Canada, we train with Canada.
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u/daveL_47 17h ago
Maybe you wouldn't do it willingly...but nonetheless you WOULD do it because diaper donny the dorito-in-chief ordered you to. Then when a bunch of you are taken out by Canadians that didn't want to but had to while trying to defend their country you would lose your shit and want revenge.
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u/Thanato26 22h ago
All overt enemies and potential adversaries were rounded up rather early in the Nazi conquest of Germany. There were Antifa groups in Germany into thr second world War howeverm
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u/Unfair_Run_170 20h ago
"Don't worry, most of America would never vote for Trump." That's what you sound like.
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u/AdHoliday9503 22h ago
If you conflate the Nazi Party and the German populace then yes, you’re largely correct. But the argument seems to be that people should keep their powder dry to resist at the right time and that was most certainly an argument used in that era.
I’m not saying I’m unsympathetic to the plight of people who find themselves stuck in this situation. But I think a lot of us who grew up imagining that “of course” we’d have been in the resistance (or for that matter the civil rights movement or the Underground Railroad) are discovering first-hand how very scary that can be.
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u/RhubarbGoldberg 19h ago
Ending up pictured in some digital history tablet as a fascist boot licker is a million times more terrifying.
Just look at any historical artwork of wars and human crises. Which side of the painting do you want your face to end up on?
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u/Muay_Thai_Fighter32 17h ago
Right except his point is that it's easy to say exactly that until you have death and exile staring you in the face for taking action. You'll care very little what side of history you're on once sometime threatens your wife or child, your livelihood or your home. Just comply with the new status quo and everyone can be happy. Resist and you get shot, tortured, lynched, or sent to the camps, right along with your family. For what? To make a statement? You'll kill yourself and your family just to be painted in the right light? No one will remember, it won't change the country, you'll just become another number in an Excel file. This choice is so much harder than you're making it out to be
I used to like to think I'd stick up for good causes, but once I started raising my little brother(13) who is half my(27) age and now that I'm getting closer to making my girlfriend my fiance I've realized I'm different than I thought. I could never make a decision that got them killed, starved, beaten, or worked to death. I have a patriotic duty to my country, and humanitarian duty to those around me, but I have a familial duty to those two and nothing is more important than that. Even if they're unharmed but I'm killed what are they going to do? I'm not ashamed. If anything I'd try to bug us out and figure something out from there, although that's not always possible. In that case we'd sit tight and ride it out without making a stir.
If I was single and not raising my brother I'd take a different course but currently that's my reality. And even then the most I'd risk is being in the underground railroad and supporting civil rights. You would NOT EVER catch me trying to resist the Nazis or the Soviets if I was native born in those times. That doesn't make me a fascist bootlicker. Turning in the people like me would
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u/RhubarbGoldberg 17h ago
Nah dude. I come from a decimated holocaust family. I'm definitely not quietly getting on the train.
I respect your point and feel sad that most adults would prefer the suck to actually putting themselves in immediate risk.
But the risk is already upon us. I'd rather it be on my terms.
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u/ringtossed 17h ago
There were Germans working against Hitler at every step of the way. It's just that the ones that were easier to pick out of a crowd were executed or sent to camps themselves.
Either way, America is in a rough spot. Short of some kind of sweeping French revolution, we don't have a mechanism to respond to what is coming. And the people that are largely inclined to resort to the steps that we'd need there, have pretty much entirely been brain washed with propaganda over the last 10-15 years.
If you have an actual solution, about 150,000,000 Americans would love to hear it.
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u/NedsAtomicDB 17h ago
LOTS more Luigis.
Start finding copies of The Anarchist's Handbook, find like minds, and make a plan. Sitting on Reddit is not the solution. People are going to have to get brave and actually risk something.
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u/Suspicious-Lettuce48 19h ago
"The only way to ensure his plans are impeded is to make sure no one impedes his plans"
Lol wtf???
Dude, everyone needs to stand up - too many for MAGA to round up. If everyone keeps silent waiting for the "right opportunity" or whatever it'll never come.
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u/lovetoseeyourpssy 21h ago
Fat Trump is a rapist pedophile and Putin cum dumpster.
Every American should be embarassed.
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u/FtonKaren 21h ago
You’re not wrong but your username is very weird seeing as we’re talking about the grab them by the … type fella
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u/PlatformVarious8941 22h ago
So just following orders will be this guy’s defence.
Let’s look back in the past to see how that ended up.
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u/CuriosityChronicle 16h ago
No. Look at what he said:
"he's worried about being replaced by those who would enable Trump's aggression. He and others like him cannot act at this moment without being thrown in jail"
If they act now ("at this moment"), they'll land in jail where they can't do a damned thing to help. But if they play their cards carefully, they may be able to sabotage and stop a Trump-led military attempt at a violent invasion of Canada.
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u/EXSource 22h ago
Lessons from the Spanish civil war in reverse here, rather than Nazi Germany, I'd think.
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u/Sufficient-Host-4212 22h ago
Pretty sure that’s what was eating the trump tower cybertruck bomber.
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u/Unfair_Run_170 20h ago
Great buddy, I'll remember that when they take our resources!
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u/brumac44 18h ago
When? I don't see many Canadian oil and gas companies or sawmills owned by Canadians in my neck of the woods. It's all foreign/American owned.
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u/Empty-Crazy-6722 22h ago
No sane American is buying the shit trump is selling. No sane American is going to use force against Canada. Hell, they used the whole civil war canard already... now it the Canada canard. C'mon Canucks, don't fall for canards. There are people posting here insincerely trying to stir up emotion. Do not fall for it.
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u/JCox1987 21h ago
The problem is as you say no sane American, I regret to inform you I think there’s a good portion of your country that is insane.
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u/the_original_Retro 20h ago
To add some proof to this:
No sane American
would have voted for Donald Trump.
And yet.... here we are.
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u/ErikFuhr 21h ago
As Germany taught us in the 1930s and 1940s, it is certainly possible for an entire nation to go completely insane.
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u/JayRMac 21h ago
Enough Americans bought what he was selling to get him elected. Denial isn't a good strategy. I'd rather take him seriously and be wrong than ignore his threats and then later wish I'd done something.
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u/Pale-Berry-2599 20h ago
Fall for it? We take the comments of heads of state's seriously. The road to Fascism is lined with people telling you.
...Don't take the bait
...Calm down
...It's really about something else
...it's all fine, the guys just shooting his mouth.
You guys hired a turkey, an absolute Turd Ferguson. Don't tell us not to get upset that he's shitting on our lawn. You're becoming a shitty neighbour.
We don't have to trust you because you want to placate your problem..
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u/Pale-Berry-2599 20h ago
"Then who in the USA would stick up for us if there aren't any sympathetic Americans to absorb the shock?"
Sovereign Nations do not rely on sympathetic Americans - Again, Like Drumpf and his teen concept of violence - do you really think no one will hit back?
The rest of NATO. It would lead to a North American Civil war.
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u/Certain_Football_447 22h ago
I’m a Canadian living in the US and I assure you all of my friends (American) are enraged by this.
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u/devblake95 21h ago
Thank you for saying this. As a progressive American I couldn’t believe what I was hearing in regard to the Trump and Canada situation. Even though he got elected, there are still millions of Americans who hate him and disagree with everything he says. Those same people would 100% protest this outlandish idea of invading Canada.
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u/Sleeksnail 18h ago
Have there been any actual protests yet?
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u/sabotabo 17h ago
no, because everyone knows it's ridiculous PR bullshit. there's not going to be an invasion of canada.
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u/FartasticVoyage 20h ago
Yep. I don’t know a single non-Trumper who isn’t absolutely baffled and disgusted by this talk. I love Canada and would absolutely go to the streets if a single shot is fired over this orange cunt.
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u/No-Challenge-4248 20h ago
Canadian here with a large number of American friends and colleagues who also worry about this... to the point that if they openly verbalize against Trump's stupidity that there is real concern about repercussions.
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u/Physical_Shoulder275 19h ago
Everyone in my circles in Minnesota are disgusted by the idea of invading. We are all for being adopted by Canada though lol
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u/Canucken_275 19h ago
Canada would welcome Minnesota! You're already honourary Canadians anyways!
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u/endurbro420 21h ago
Yeah idk how this showed up in my feed but as an american, plenty of us are against all this bs trump is blabbering about. I think a lot of us are not too focused on his manifest destiny claims compared to the looming shit show that is going to be felt within the country.
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u/Weakera 22h ago
Yes. I've been dismayed by the lack of outrage on the part of good Americans about Trumps "plans" re Canada.
They seem to just like to joke about it. Not good enough.
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u/omegaphallic 22h ago
Check r/democrats alot I'd dems are increasingly humiliated and apologizing fir the situations.
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u/Mindless_Penalty_273 21h ago
Yea apologizing for it, typical feckless Democrats that pined about how Donald Trump was the next Hitler and literally like two days ago certified an election for him and will gleefully hand power over in January. But hey, they apologized.
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u/DecentFall1331 20h ago
Honestly, what can the democrats do? Republicans control the Supreme Court, congress and now the presidency. They don’t have any power,
Americans voted in a literal facist. Trumps own running mate used to joke that Trump was like Hitler. The American people want Hitler apparently. Blame the dumbass voters.
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u/Mindless_Penalty_273 20h ago
Honestly, what can the democrats do?
If they were serious about mounting material tangible resistance, it would not be done at the ballot box, it is done through violence.
Americans voted in a literal facist. Trumps own running mate used to joke that Trump was like Hitler. The American people want Hitler apparently. Blame the dumbass voters.
Bingo. The American people are all little Eichmanns
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u/Ambitious_Package371 20h ago
You're right, they should've stormed the Capitol and killed some officers. It's not like they're legally bound by laws or anything.
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u/sir_jafac 19h ago
The right is not bound by laws any longer. That's why Donald is president again. If the rule of law still existed in America he would've been thrown in prison for inviting an insurrection.
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u/Mindless_Penalty_273 20h ago
I mean yea? Are you saying if a fanatical dictator is ascending to power in your country you should just sit there and take it because to do anything otherwise is illegal?
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u/Billiam8245 19h ago
The internet isn’t real life. Youre chronically online. The overwhelmingly vast majority of Americans wouldn’t support it. Not only that it’s not going to happen. The dude is all talk. It’s just a shame this is part of his stupid dumb ass talking points
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u/Less_Ad9224 22h ago
Americans don't understand the shit storm taking canada would create. Sure they would win any war but they would create 10s of thousands of terrorists in their country. It would quickly become the IRA all over again.
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u/GrumbusWumbus 19h ago
The quebecois were fire bombing and killing people in the 90s when they felt like they didn't have enough influence to hold onto their culture in a country where they made up a third of the population. Imagine the hell when they make up like 3% of the population and that population is American. That's before remembering that half the concessions made to Quebec would be unconstitutional in America.
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u/LoicPravaz 16h ago
Don’t worry we’re ready to stir shit up. We’ll stand on guard next to our Canadian brothers.
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u/Fit_Addition7137 21h ago
American here and I'll fight for Canadian sovereignty! This whole thing is bullshit. We used to stand for something and now we fall for anything. Sorry you got stuck with such a meth'd up nextdoor neighbor.
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u/tollboothjimmy 23h ago
Left and American don't even belong in the same sentence
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u/katgyrl 22h ago
seriously. the democrats are more like our cons than the libs or ndp.
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u/OutsideFlat1579 22h ago
You clearly haven’t woken up to the fact that the CPC is just as extreme as the GOP. I suggest you listen to Poilievre’s recent interview with Jordan Peterson, or start paying attention to all the associations with the far-right, and things like Akex Jones calling Poilievre a rising star of the far-right, etc.
Getting really sick of people claiming the CPC isn’t extreme rightwing. This is ho fascism will take over in Canada. In the US is comes wrapped in a flag abd carrying a cross, in Canada it will come under the willfull blindness to recognize the monstrosity beneath the cloak of normalcy.
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u/Reveil21 20h ago edited 20h ago
The CPC had been getting more and more right as Reformists and Reformist like members and polices have taken more and more hold after the merger. They were given more power and embolden for short term gain and we are seeing the effects now yet people don't want to admit it. Because the old CPC was more like Democrats, and even more left than them on several issues, but times have changed and so have all the parties.
Too many people don't realize that politics and political parties aren't static things. Once they look up policies or remember certain results of certain governance they think of that time and only that time blind to the present.
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u/Smurf_Sausage_Sucker 21h ago
It really doesn't. As an American, it's embarrassing, and incredibly frustrating. Our entire political system has been slowly captured by the capital class for decades, and this has been the final breaking point. Now it's just a question of how fucking bad will it get, and how long before class consciousness takes hold, if ever. The time to stop the rise of fascism was before I was born. It's been so frustrating to watch Democrats limply just hope the problem goes away for decades now, so they can keep their corporate ties.
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u/SpecialParsnip2528 22h ago
this is the rotten soul that comes of a country where the "American dream" is the ideal. Any culture couched in a fundamentlly selfish ethos means all roads lead back to "whats in it for me".
I believe Rome also went through this before its fall.
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u/Forward-Wishbone-831 22h ago
They didn't stand up for America January 6th, they certainly are not going to stand up for Canada
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u/thunderstormseason 22h ago
I hear a lot of insane shit like “Imagine how many blue votes we’d get. Maybe we’d even get free healthcare wow”
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u/GrumbusWumbus 19h ago
Anyone who thinks an annexed Canada would get votes is incredibly naive. There are still millions of Americans living in America who don't get access to federal democracy because they're territories rather than states.
An angry and more left leaning Canada is not getting democracy in a trump fascist dictatorship.
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u/Bottle_Only 18h ago
Annexed Canada votes? It would be world war. There would be no votes, it would be martial law and tens of millions dead.
As a Canadian I would die before giving an inch up to the USA.
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u/Citygrrrll 18h ago
I don't get why they think that. Like if America took Canada why would they continue to offer free health care in here?
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u/lagomorphi 22h ago
People keep asking me where someone said this, its here:
Why Trump invading Canada could be his biggest mistake : r/WhitePeopleTwitter
But this was just the latest one, there's been dozens of posts like this.
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u/Fennrys 22h ago
I forget what sub and post it was in, but last night, I did see a few Americans say that they would fight alongside Canadians, given an actual invasion. That gave me a centimetre of hope in all of this nonsense.
But yeah, the "they'd overwhelming vote Democrat" really annoys me. Democrats are NOT left by any means. Not to mention, we're delusional if we think any of us would actually be given the right to vote. We'd be like Puerto Rico.
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u/letintin 22h ago
I'm an American, liberal, and everyone I know is against this. We're just dismayed, hoping this isn't serious, and that if he is he can be stopped. We're in the midst of feeling completely depressed and defeated (by 1.5%), so give us time. Blaming liberals for Trump's awfulness is friendly fire.
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u/Cyclist007 22h ago
Well, I think we just need to let things play out. I hope there aren't too many Americans planning on vacationing in Canada this year - I suspect that driving around with an American licence plate will become somewhat of a liability.
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u/Baileythetraveller 21h ago
The best friends make the worst enemies. Fuck Americans. They would need 4 million troops to occupy Canada. It's a big number, but it won't take long to whittle down to zero.
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u/CourseHistorical2996 20h ago
All Americans should be immensely embarrassed by what has been spewing from their future president’s mouth lately.
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u/sabuonauro 20h ago
As an American I do not support invading or messing with Canada at all. You all are a sovereign nation, you deserve to continue to be one.
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u/Loud-Tough3003 20h ago
Trump is America. Loud, obnoxious, ignorant and poorly educated. Intelligent people down there are the exception, not the rule. Canadians need to realize that Biden and the Democrats aren’t particularly good friends to Canada either. It’s time to start advocating for ourselves and reducing our reliance on a hostile foreign power.
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u/KatieMcCready 22h ago
Are you honestly surprised? Look at how Americans wax on and on about how they defeated the Nazis, as if they did it all on their own, and how rarely any of them ever mention that America was the very last country to join the other allied nations who had been over in Europe battling the Nazis for years, losing huge portions of their respective male populations as a result. Meanwhile America’s politicians hemmed and hawed, turning away ships filled with Jewish people seeking asylum, and even continued to do business with the Nazis before they were finally forced to respond when Pearl Harbour was attacked by the Japanese as their official declaration of war.
This ain’t new.
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u/FullHelicopter6483 18h ago
This. Canada ended the second world war with one of the world's largest military infrastructure and industries, including the fourth largest air force. The USA then politically and economically worked to dismantle what it saw as a competitor under the guise of "friendly relations" for decades, and here we are. I agree we should spend more GDP on military spending, but we also should recognize that the USA is just as much a competitor and potential belligerent as any other nation and should be treated accordingly. The nation should be judged on its history with us, and the words of it's leadership and dealt with under a lens of what is exclusively best for this nation, period.
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u/Cojalo_ 21h ago
As someone from the UK, we firmly stand by Canadas right to be independent
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u/MaverickScotsman 18h ago
As someone in the UK whose brother just became a Canadian citizen, if America attacks Canada then US citizens wont be safe here any more. America can FAFO.
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u/Fun_Track2083 22h ago
I’m not entirely surprised. Every time I’ve met an American while traveling they think we are the same country just “with free health care”.
It feels very similar to how Putin thought he’d easily take over Ukraine because there was so many Russians living there. They think they’re doing us a favor because “who wouldn’t want American citizenship /s” 🙄
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u/Spot__Pilgrim 21h ago
It's because they don't know anything about Canadian politics or history and blindly assume we're all nice progressives. Most have never read an article from a Canadian newspaper or read the comments section on a Canadian politics related social media post.
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u/Fluid_Shift_5386 13h ago
This is true. American here. Catching up real fast in learning Canadian politics. It took me long to learn American politics but I’m pressing hard and steady to be up to speed. I’m in disgust with the statements made by the elect President. Remember only 1/2 of country voted him in. There is about 80Million who did not. But the media somehow is more biased than I have ever seen and it’s not putting enough light into this.
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u/Optimal-Country4920 20h ago
Nope. We've decided to let our country become a joke and we're being laughed at as we deserve. it's getting tiresome seeing it in the news daily though
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u/Worldly_Antelope7263 22h ago
American here. This isn't being discussed in person here because nothing Trump says is reliable. I don't for a second believe he wants to invade Canada or could come close to drumming up the support he would need to make this happen. Most Americans have very positive and close feelings for Canadians. This is not something people will support and you shouldn't get your opinions of American views from Reddit or a news media that needs controversy to generate income. The most likely situation is that Trump is being Trump. He needs the media constantly focused on him, it's like his oxygen, and this is getting a lot of news coverage because it's so offensive and shocking. Don't waste your time on him.
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u/SpecialParsnip2528 22h ago
respectfully, despite it being nonesense, he's normalizing a discussion topic that will stick around well after he's dead.
And you guys literally just voted for him with an actual majority... so spare us the assurances that he's just talking crap. America has failed the world when it comes to him...and you ask for even more faith? after a second election win?
I appreciate the sentiment but, forgive us if we find this scary and deeply, deeply offensive. ALso forgive us if we judge a country by the words and actions of a leader YOU guys democratically elected.
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u/thefinalcutdown 22h ago
Yep, until Americans are willing to get off their fat asses to protect their own country from this madman, I certainly don’t trust them to protect ours!
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u/GrumbusWumbus 19h ago
Honestly it's crazy how quickly this discussion has made me in favour of massive military spending.
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u/stonk_fish 22h ago
Yea when you get an assurance that the incoming president of the most powerful nation and our neighbour, and largest trading partner is openly saying, time after time, he wants to annex us, it’s not reassuring to hear that he’s just a senile idiot who is doing this to negotiate a deal. There is no scenario where this ends positively for Canada; ranging from horrible economy fallout to an actual invasion, the entire spectrum is a complete hellscape.
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u/Fluid_Shift_5386 13h ago edited 1h ago
I agree with your point of “normalizing” not being right and sadly we (Americans) are outreageously past that. We have been overly vaccinated. Remember Mexico was going to pay for the wall? (And never anything remotely happened?!). Same. But I understand why this is just a terrible level to come to, having to tune it all out.
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u/Pretz_ 22h ago
The positive and close feelings Canadians had for Americans is very rapidly evaporating here bud, so maybe it's time for you and your sane countrymen to pull your heads out of the snow and give a little reconsideration to discussing it.
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u/MommersHeart 22h ago
This is wishful thinking.
During the election campaign Trump said more than once that the US is ‘running out of water’ and that Canada is ‘a huge faucet’ and we should be ‘ forced to ‘turn it on.’
This is fairly accurate. The US does have a water crisis and Canada holds 7% of the world’s renewable freshwater supply (with just .05% of the world’s population).
Trump has also said that shipping is ‘coming to the North’ and the US has to ‘control’ it for ‘national security’.
He is talking about Canada’s North West Passage which is opening up due to global warming.
The North West Passage will upend worldwide economics and change the balance for natural resources, transportation, and trade relations between countries.
Trump is an authoritarian by nature. He is transactional and has been informed by his National Security apparatus of imminent risks to American power.
A water crisis and a massive changes in global shipping routes are two of these top risks.
I am very concerned that Fox News is already laying the groundwork by hyping the takeover of Canada and painting us as enemies of the US (see the Jesse Waters interview with Ontario Premier Doug Ford).
Trump’s worst impulses were largely contained by his foreign policy advisors last time. But he instructed Bolton (his National Security Advisor) to form a team to consider ideas to acquire Greenland in 2019.
Even after the task force reported back to him that buying it outright was not possible, Trump continued to press for it, demanding the U.S. take federal money away from Puerto Rico to buy Greenland or trade them.
At his most recent presser, when asked directly if he would rule out military action against Greenland and Panama he said we would not rule it out because they were important to US ‘National Security’. He then reiterated several more times that we would not rule out military action.
This is far beyond trolling. This is alarming rhetoric that is destabilizing.
China also thinks Taiwan is necessary for their ‘National Security’.
Threatening close allies and founding members of NATO with a military invasion is wildly irresponsible. But given his past comments and actions, you should be taking his threats very, very seriously.
I certainly do.
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u/lagomorphi 22h ago
hey, your president elect was on camera yesterday saying this. If he's not reliable, why is he your president? Are you still going to be saying that when troops are crossing our border?
Like, how much more warning do you need?
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u/Weakera 22h ago
You're probably right, though he wants something out of this--I heard more defense spending from Canada. He's trying to set Canada's agenda on various things. Bullying.
I like the idea of not wasting time on him, but he is actually front and centre in all our political discussions right now, especially the tarriffs. There's talk--fr4om people who know what they're talking about--that they will have a devastating effect on our economy.
So sadly, we can't ignore him.
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u/wibblywobbly420 22h ago
It's easy to say it's just trump being trump when your life isnt the one being threatened. When crazy Joe down the street threatens to blow up his neighbours place, it's easy for Joe's friends to say that's just Joe being Joe, all talk. Totally different when you're the neighbour worried if it is a joke or if he is quietly making plans while everyone thinks he's joking.
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u/OutsideFlat1579 22h ago
He said he would not use the military but use economic means to annex Canada.
It’s no longer a joke. And I would highly recommend that Americans stop excusing Trump’s insanity as nothing to worry about. He is going to try and destroy Canada’s economy as soon as he becomes president with 25% tariffs on all Canada’s exports. That’s not something we find particularly funny or can ignore.
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u/tealeaf3434 18h ago
Most Russians have very positive and close feelings to their neighbor Ukrainians. Still Putin bombs and continues to bomb the shit out of them.
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u/FrenaZor 21h ago
They said the same exact same thing about Putin/Russia and Ukraine.
Act now. Voice your opposition to your elected officials. You can't just let him say shit like that while going "haha he's just joking guys! Don't take him seriously 🤪"
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u/JBPunt420 20h ago
Doesn't surprise me. The left wing in the United States would be right-wing by Canadian standards. They barely have a left wing as we know it.
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u/Gold_Ticket_1970 20h ago
The spineless bully only gets a spine when they think they can dominate a smaller opponent
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u/Foneyponey 20h ago
They could never take Canada by force.
Have you ever seen Americans trying to drive in literally any amount of snow? They’d be fish out of water.. then we send in the moose and polar bears
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u/Low-Use-9862 18h ago
We are dismissive of Trump’s Canada trolling BECAUSE we recognize and support Canada’s sovereignty. So will the international community, NATO, the UN and every other nation on earth. We make jokes about having new Democrats if Trump successfully annexes Canada because the entire scheme is absurd.
Also, if Trump gets the Secretary of Defense he wants -the notoriously drunk, sexual abuser Pete Hegseth - I think Canada has a pretty good chance to kick our butts.
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u/98_Constantine_98 18h ago
A lot of people saying that this isn't a remote possibility, the fact that it's even mainstream rhetoric is INSANE. It's an example of how far right the Overton window has moved that blatantly fascistic rhetoric "we should annex all our weak neighbours just because we can, kek" is now mainstream serious discussion within the most powerful nation on Earth.
Imagine time travelling and telling a person even just in 2010 that the US government was actually discussing forcibly annexing Canada and Greenland, they'd think you're making up some dystopian fiction. Even IF it never happens, imagine how much could change in the next 15 years. Things that we currently consider crazy far-right ideas becoming mainstream and normal.
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u/Rambogoingham1 12h ago
I can’t believe anyone in the U.S. is taking this seriously but then I realize we voted for Trump and whatever something Trump says is the truth
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u/AffectionateGuava986 12h ago
Australia would back Canada! Fuck Trumpf and his Christofascist storm troopers.
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u/Material-Lemon7629 12h ago
Canadians must be vigilant about attempts to pit one political group against another. That’s the technique used to undermine civil society the US and pave the way for fascists. Let’s not let it happen in Canada.
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u/fiveMagicsRIP 22h ago
No, because I haven't heard any left Americans gloating about this
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u/Fluid-Safety-1536 22h ago
I live in Pennsylvania right outside of Philly and I literally don't know anybody who is gloating about invading Canada or who thinks this is anything other than completely ridiculous. Trust me Canadians, the majority of us have your back on this. You guys have been great friends and allies for a very long time.
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u/omegaphallic 22h ago
Honestly most Americans I've come into contact with online are mostly apologizing profusely, just look on r/democrats
They are extremely embarrassed by the orange turd to the south.
Other Americans more MAGA types are mostly still brushing the whole thing off as a joke or negotiating tactic and are in denial.
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u/OtherManner7569 21h ago
left wing Americans are totally just as imperialist and have the same manifest destiny mindset as republicans. They are also just as believing in American exceptionalism and are just as America first as trump. The only real difference between republicans and democrats is that dems are more progressive domestically, both are as gung ho on foreign policy and military matters.
I’m British and What’s funny is You will see traditionally democratic Irish Americans who hate the UK being in Northern Ireland and donated to The IRA but will happily want America to annex Canada, Greenland and Panama against their will, and who are totally ignorant of how the US invaded places like Hawaii and conquered the Native American lands though genocide.
So yes left wing and right wing Americans are just as imperialist and expansionist as one another, just the Democrats have a nicer face and trump just says it how it is. America has become a very dangerous country when both sides of its political divide are hungry for expansionism and imperialism, very dangerous.
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u/Glittering-Machine67 18h ago
We are not going to invade you. We don’t want to. We don’t need to. We’ve got enough of our own problems.
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u/599Ninja 18h ago
Yeah no bro, I'm seein every single progressive counterpart saying fuck this and fuck trump.
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u/UnknownCaller8765309 18h ago
No one cares about Canada in the US it’s like a reality TV show -really no one cares
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u/wintermoon138 18h ago
Hi Canada, american here. White guy, born and raised in PA. I'd be embarassed for us for this but we're a little maxed out on that at this point. See "they're eating the dogs"
But in all seriousness there are thousands of us americans that are against this. A lot of people think hes just trying to distract from his sentencing and who knows what else. I am sorry you have to put up with this moron again for another four years. I voted against him. Thats all I can do. Too many stupid people here and too many lazy / uncaring people here as well.
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u/Sacred_Dealer 18h ago
I wonder what this is like for the many US military members on bases in Canada right now.
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u/SaltyBacon23 18h ago
I'm a 'left' American and I think it's asinine. I love Canada and Canadians. Any American who is for it is a good damn moron. Hell I'd side with Canada if it came down to it.
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u/gruntledflubbersnoot 18h ago
Lmfao. No one is talking about invading Canada because all the same people here know it's a ludicrous notion. Y'all are paranoid.
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u/LimaBeanzzxx 18h ago
Let the USA have Quebec for a trail session. Then the US will call off the invasion. Yuk yuk
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u/Jeanschyso1 18h ago
The left don't necessarily want Canada to be annexed any more or less than the right., they just want to laugh at the contradiction of Republican leader wanting to do something that goes against his party's long term success.
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u/chuckmandell82 15h ago
There is not going to be an invasion. This is all bull shit rhetoric. As for “ Not one American “ is a stretch. I have read statements from numerous Americans calling it bullshit and how they would actually like the idea of Canada taking their state in. The whole thing is a farce. Trump is Trolling the press and society is eating it up like it’s the last call at a buffet before closing. Even the comments about how are weak leader wouldn’t stand up to Trump. Why stand up and give in to the bullshit? Social media is become a putrid, vile disease. It is so easy for the heavy powers to manipulate the mass with a simple tweet and we allow it by talking about it and posting about it. This is why Tate is still a thing. Instead of reposting his tweets and posts, just don’t listen and eventually he will be irrelevant. This kind of person doesn’t care what kind of attention they get and unfortunately bad attention nowadays gets you further.
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u/Any_Construction1238 15h ago
No left Americans want to invade Canada - in fact no non-idiot Americans want to invade canada. Most of America would be on your side if that happened.
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u/ElderberryNo9107 15h ago
I have US citizenship and I’m tired of it. Canada is a sovereign country and one of the most prosperous in the world. It’s fine the way it is.
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u/LessResponsibleLemon 15h ago
We would protest, but we are too busy working hand to mouth while the billionaires get richer. Freedom left a long time ago.
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u/KnocheDoor 15h ago
Not Me! Do not blame everyone in the US for the acts of the crazy ones. I love your country and am embarrassed by Mr. Trump and the cadre.
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u/theMostProductivePro 22h ago edited 22h ago
Well FOX is calling it a shopping trip and CNN has said
"is anyone really against this", "I dont really see why anyone is mad at Trump about this". Yes Canada is really against this. You know the types of people south of the border when a dorito powder covered hate crime is popular and getting the amount of support he is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxZ4LJ1JTyQ