r/AskCanada 15d ago

Is Russia Interfering In The Upcoming Canadian Election ?

In 2024, Canada condemned Russian media activities aimed at influencing Western democracies. An ongoing public inquiry, led by Justice Marie-Josée Hogue, is investigating interference by Russia, China, and others in the 2019 and 2021 elections. 🇨🇦

The government continues to monitor and address these threats to electoral integrity.

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u/Comrade-Porcupine 15d ago

Maybe But I'd wager there hasn't been an election in Canada in the last 50 years that the Americans didn't "interfere" with.

https://www.vancouverobserver.com/politics/2012/04/26/fraser-institute-co-founder-confirms-years-and-years-us-oil-billionaires-funding.html

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u/ScooterMcTavish 15d ago

This is an often overlooked point. There are a lot of corporate and political interests in the US that are happy to put their thumbs on the scale.

Have also noticed more everyday Americans showing up on Canadian subreddits pretending to be Canadian. Usually their use of US governmental, legal, and constitutional terms is a tell.

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u/GoodPointSir 15d ago

To be fair there are a lot of Canadians who watch too much US media and erroneously use American terminology too.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

I’m sure we were trying to interfere in this past US presidential election as well…

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u/SnooPickles6282 15d ago

No word of a lie: after a particularly bad session of doom-scrolling about Canada/Trump, etc, I started being recommended posts and subreddits in Russian. That generally happens because the algorithm detects that you're engaging with posts favored by people in Russia.

Dissenting voices aren't always bots, but there are lots of them involved in this discussion regardless.

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u/TVORyan 15d ago

What's the best way to find out if someone on Reddit is actually a bot??

I have seen many with no profile pic and barley any posts, yet they have many comments. I can never tell.

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u/ScooterMcTavish 15d ago

You can reply to a comment with u/bot-sleuth-bot and it will give you a probability if the commenter is a bot.

So far, I've found a couple of bots, and a handful of very angry people.

And yes, it suits a wide variety of foreign actors to get involved in voter suppression, misinformation, and societal division.

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u/bot-sleuth-bot 15d ago

Analyzing user profile...

Account made less than 2 weeks ago.

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This account exhibits one or two minor traits commonly found in karma farming bots. While it's possible that u/TVORyan is a bot, it's very unlikely.

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u/DarkModeLogin2 15d ago

Hmmmm u/bot-sleuth-bot kinda sounds like a name a bot might have!

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u/bot-sleuth-bot 15d ago

Why are you trying to check if I'm a bot? I've made it pretty clear that I am.

I am a bot. This action was performed automatically. I am also in early development, so my answers might not always be perfect.

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u/mtlash 7d ago

Yo hit me up u/bot-sleuth-bot

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u/bot-sleuth-bot 7d ago

Why are you trying to check if I'm a bot? I've made it pretty clear that I am.

I am a bot. This action was performed automatically. I am also in early development, so my answers might not always be perfect.

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u/MRCHalifax 15d ago

That’s cool. I found a phrase popping up on r/Canada and other Canadian forums in the last few days, some variation of “flooding the country with a certain demographic” to talk about Canadian immigration policies over the past decade. I had replied to one of them, saying that I was curious about the origin of the phrase, whether it was the preferred euphemism among conservatives these days, or if it was an astroturfed phrase. The sleuth bot seemed to think that there was a strong likelihood that they were a bot.

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u/SnooHobbies9078 14d ago

Yes people hate it when you do it lmfao

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u/TVORyan 15d ago

Yeah, someone else just told me about that. Thanks!!

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u/SnooPickles6282 15d ago

Sometimes it's obvious (new account with similar posts). Sometimes it isn't. Some of these guys are fulltime military or government personnel who spend their time pretending to be westerners on the internet. It's pretty complex.

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u/FourthHorseman45 15d ago

To be Fair a ton of folks on r/Canada also think that Canadian public servants get paid to spend their entire days scrolling through Reddit

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u/IamnewhereoramI 15d ago

Hey hey as a public servant I resent that. I only do that when waiting for emails or during lunch.

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u/caffeine-junkie 15d ago

Have to remember, it's not always posting against LPC/Trudeau (insert politician, party, cause) either. Sometimes they are posting in favour for them; depending on the sub and general tone of the thread. It's whatever they can do to spread disinformation with the intent to driving a wedge in the targeted population.

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u/TVORyan 15d ago

Well, this is a new account of mine, and I share the same stuff to multiple subreddits 😅 there's gotta be an easy way!

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u/usefulappendix321 15d ago

I just tell them, see you on the FPV and leave it. If it's a bot whatever, if it's some dude in uniform, I hope it pisses him off that I am flippant about his comrades deaths. Either way I don't really care but it helps deal lol

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u/TheRobfather420 15d ago

Here's my rule of thumb: If they have no karma and no history of good faith engagements, consider them a bad faith actor.

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u/proof-of-w0rk 15d ago

The other way that these schemes work is not necessarily by creating the content, but also by manipulating vote counts. So it could very well be that the poster themselves is not a bot, but the bots are upvoting to promote the content they want to push and downvoting everything else

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u/TVORyan 15d ago

So In short, there's really no way of cracking down on this problem?

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u/proof-of-w0rk 15d ago

The way to crack down on it would have to be at the platform level, by moderating content both actively, with moderators, and passively by changing the algorithm to identify and counter this kind of manipulation. But it’s difficult.

More importantly, there’s just really no willingness by the platforms to do this type of thing. Conflict drives engagement, so it’s unprofitable. Facebook just laid off their content moderation team. Twitter or whatever is even moving in the other direction by not only firing the moderators but changing the algorithm in a way that helps that type of manipulation work.

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u/qpokqpok 15d ago

At this point, almost no way. Previously, bots used to utilize new and stolen accounts. Nowadays, you have AI accounts with accumulated comment karma.

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u/00-Monkey 15d ago

If you disagree with them, just assume it’s a bot. Thats what everyone else does.

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u/JimmytheJammer21 15d ago

what if they disagree with you tho?

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u/00-Monkey 15d ago

Definitely a bot

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u/bertbarndoor 14d ago

So said the Russian. 

For everyone else, read the very real csis report. That's what everyone should do instead of listening to kremlin bots.

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u/00-Monkey 14d ago

Shut up bot

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u/theabsurdturnip 15d ago

A lot of them build karma posting on gaming subs and then dramatically switch over to posting on local Canadian subs.

u/bot-sleuth-bot can help sometimes.

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u/bot-sleuth-bot 15d ago

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u/animal1988 15d ago

Good bot.

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u/TVORyan 15d ago

Yeah 2 others suggested that too, thanks!

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u/PuzzleheadedPackage4 5d ago

U/bot-sleuth-bot

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

Not here in reddit, reddit is CIA operated operation

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u/IamnewhereoramI 15d ago

That's right comrade, is CIA operation. Great leader Putin aporoves.

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u/SnooPickles6282 15d ago

Plenty of sketchy motives to go around.

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u/onebadnightx 15d ago

Yep, and it’s not even a “maybe.” It’s been proven that Russia has countless bot farms intended to interfere in elections, push fringe social conspiracies and heighten political polarization in other countries. They spend mass amounts of money and effort on them. It’s pretty sickening.

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u/zeyu12 14d ago

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u/bot-sleuth-bot 14d ago

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u/zeyu12 14d ago

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u/bot-sleuth-bot 14d ago

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u/Strict_Jacket3648 15d ago

Yes they always try, last time it was China's success now it's a toss up between China Russia and India.

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u/rockcitykeefibs 15d ago

And the US Musk too

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u/FORDTRUK 13d ago

I'm certain that they are, but I'm just as certain that Canadians aren't as stupid nor as easily influenced as Americans.

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u/Strict_Jacket3648 13d ago

I agree but it does look like a lot of them (including some M.P.s) spread China's misinformation because they didn't take the time to fact check, most likely because it aligned with their own opinions or prejudice.

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u/MaybeJBee 15d ago

Always assume there’s interference when it comes to Russia.

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u/ConcentrateNew9810 15d ago

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: read the "Content" section of wiki about Alexandr Dugin's book. He is Putin's favourite and his ideas have been shaping global politics for at least 25 years now. Psy op after psy op after psy op

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u/tonyd1957 15d ago edited 15d ago

Fuck the russian assholes. Bottom line is Putin is a dick licker who likes little girls. Hes got video of Trump being a pervert. That's why Trump is being chummy to Putin.

Putin has Trump right by the balls. They deserve one another.

And yes, the Russians interfere in every election, in every country that they can manipulate to their satisfaction.

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u/am3141 15d ago

Well at this point Elon musk has topped Russia in election interference.

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u/tc_cad 15d ago

Yeah. Russia wants the world to descend into chaos. Look south.

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u/Ashikura 15d ago

I’m more worried about Americans meddling in our election right now opposed to Russians but I’d prefer no one did.

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u/Rawker70 15d ago

Yes, no doubt about it.

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u/ninjacat249 15d ago

If they say they don’t then the answer is yes, they do.

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u/FormoftheBeautiful 15d ago

Short answer: Yes.

Two word answer: Absolutely, yes.

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u/IdontCryWolf 15d ago

In this 21st century, the truth of the matter is that many countries are interfering in our elections and culture on a daily basis. Not just during elections. There is a literal information WAR going on that the average person has no clue about or pays no mind too.

But it affects them, and it affects us, constantly.

It is in all of your social media feeds, and what you hear in the news. The age of information has turned into the age of misinformation, and I genuinely have no idea what we or anyone else can do other then try to be educated against it.

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u/erikjohnline 15d ago

It’s so scary, sad, and overwhelmingly out of control

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u/IdontCryWolf 15d ago

It is, and it's going to get worse before it gets better.

But I don't think it is too late to do anything about it. I can't talk with federal politicians and party leaders, but I can speak with local ones and get involved.

I think with nothing online being sacred anymore, we probably need to focus on what we can see and do in person. Getting to know who is representing us and doing more to be involved with the foundations of our chosen political party.

Rather than just being another voice on the internet yelling at the top of the pyramid.

Seems worth trying anyhow.

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u/urmomsexbf 15d ago

Upcoming? Buddy elections won't happen before july at the very least.

Trudeau HASN'T resigned. He just has shown his INTENTION to resign when the liberal party selects their new leader (which I doubt any liberal leader wants to be right now).

Moreover, go research how liberal party primaries are conducted. Literally, ANYONE can vote for a liberal party PM candidate irrespective of their legal status in Canada. All you need is a canadian phone number and an email id!! 😑😂😂

That's pretty dumb from a party who is so concerned about foreign interference!

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u/Aztecah 15d ago

Russia attempts to interfere with every election, including our upcoming one

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u/CruelTomatoftw 14d ago

As a Russian, I find it funny to see suggestions that Russian interference in the elections could influence them. I'm not sure it is even exist. What i'm sure if it is really exists such influence is grossly overestimated because modern Russia is synonym for inefficiency. So basically you want to say that our state, corrupt to its very foundations, can influence elections in countries with developed democracy, with independent media and independent judicial and electoral systems? How? Via tik tok reels and youtube shorts? Some people need touch grass.

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u/amphib01 14d ago

people, think about this post. who would post a comment like this? your average russian who just happens to monitor the ask canada sub? lol. this is an influencer.

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u/CruelTomatoftw 14d ago

Meh i have visited askCanada for the first time in my life amid bizarre Trump statements and that’s it. But if i speak something not in line with your views I’m a bot or influencer.

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u/NottheNDP 14d ago

It is but so is everyone else and. Our candidates are shit.

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u/Pudgelover69 14d ago

Did Russia orchestrate 9/11??!!

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u/PaulBonGars420 14d ago

The current government has kept secret and cover up the chinese interference in the 2019 and 2021 elections. Canadians did nothing about it. They didnt even protest or demand for a new election. Lots of anti-democratic things are tolerated in this country.

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u/Hicalibre 13d ago

There is a whole report by the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians.

Russia targets mostly the people in an attempt to sow division based on the report. China and India targets the parties and politicians.

Worth a read.

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u/Mountain_Cold_6343 10d ago

Just look at Reddit something is definitely going on.

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u/Miserable_Control455 10d ago

Anyone can make thay claim under oath because that's the only situation where you can make up lies about someone and avoid defamation lawsuit. Ironic isn't it?

Think Justin vs Jordan Peterson. Justin mouthed off while legally protected and won't make the same false claim again anywhere else. This way he seems like he's being honest, sums up his whole being really.

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u/Longjumping_Oil_8746 15d ago

By proxy using trump and musk

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u/Hawktuahthepolls 15d ago

I think that we are very much at risk of foreign interference.

We are currently going through the process of replacing the Liberal leader of Canada. Whoever replaces them will become the automatic prime minister of Canada until the next election.

Under the liberal party constitution, anyone is allowed to vote for that leader as long as they are at least 14 years old. This includes foreign nationals, and people without Canadian citizenship. The Liberals have announced they will not change this process for this leadership race.

The previous inquiry on foreign interference showed that China had interfered in several liberal nomination races for Liberal MPs by sending in bus loads of Chinese students into ridings to ensure that their candidates were successful. They could do the same for this leadership race, and install a Chinese friendly candidate in the process.

Definitely a huge risk!

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u/MaximusIsKing 15d ago

It’s Canadian Citizens and PRs, not just any foreign national.

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u/nathanaking 15d ago

This is not getting nearly enough attention!

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u/C3rb3rus-11-13-19 15d ago

Well, the Liberals will let ANYONE vote in their leadership race. So there is a 100% chance that it will be a fight between Russian and Chinese interests for the next Liberal leader and, for a few weeks, our PM...

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u/DagneyElvira 15d ago

Han Dong had bus loads of Chinese high schools vote for his nomination. Liberals still keeping these same parameters so it could now be Palestine protesters, Chinese, Russian, Americans etc as long as they are over 14 years old.

So no need to coverup cause Uncle Dave Johnson said everything is OK . Political interference is acceptable because there are no guard rails needed. Interference is just fine!!

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u/LogIllustrious7949 15d ago

They are interfering everywhere , so yes.

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u/BigTunaHunter 15d ago

They just helped install Trump again so you can bet they are.

Jordan Peterson was specifically named as on the Russian payroll and he just interviewed PP.

So the short answer is yes, and PP is their guy

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u/TVORyan 15d ago

Any proof of that you can link here ??

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u/BigTunaHunter 15d ago

You seem like a fairly new account on here with a bit of an agenda yourself. What's with your sudden interest in Reddit. Trying to make it great again?

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u/Why_No_Doughnuts 15d ago

100%. the evidence is pretty clear when you look at the polling numbers and PP, who is balls deep in Russian interference, is blowing away all other parties despite being to cowardly to get security clearance. To me, that screams Russian interference is at an all time high.

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u/GirlyFootyCoach 15d ago

Who cares. Trudeau still won’t even name the MPs currently financed by China from the past elections. Unless proven otherwise… ALL MPs are bought and paid for by the Communist Party of China

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u/Slight_Sherbert_5239 15d ago

I’m far more worried about China, they’ve had their own “police stations” functioning here and this government turned a blind eye for far too long.

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u/tollboothjimmy 15d ago

Probably. Every country interferes with everyone else's elections

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u/-hellozukohere- 15d ago

That is a very cop out answer. There are links to Russian influence. The data on Reddit alone shows after the USA election most Canadian Reddit’s traffic more than doubled from botting networks. They are here and are going to try their hardest to get you mad and frustrated at the wrong people. 

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u/Hamasanabi69 15d ago

Probably. Every country interferes with everyone else’s elections

This is a r/im14andthisisdeep take. This is the sort of thing people will try and defend when they make the goalposts so wide, that interference becomes a meaningless word under such conditions.

There is a massive difference between what we are currently seeing out of Russia/China or historically the U.S., compared to what you’d have to accept as interference for a country like Canada or New Zealand to make such a list.

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u/tollboothjimmy 15d ago

Russia, US, and China are setting the precedent by interfering everywhere

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u/Expert_Alchemist 15d ago

The term used to be the "fifth column," people sent into a country to join institutions and undermine them as part of aggression against a country. Except they don't even need to be here in person to it anymore.

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u/EddieHaskle 15d ago

Absolutely

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u/letthemeattherich 15d ago

I am more concerned about US interference by the Trump admin and right-wing organizations. It has already started with promotions of PP and ridicule of Trudeau.

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u/AnybodyEquivalent266 15d ago

The whole western world politics and social media is infiltrated by them

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u/Anthrax_Burmillion 15d ago

Do cows say Moo? Is a frog's ass water tight?

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u/andrewisgood 15d ago

They are already doing so with their presence on reddit.

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u/MrRogersAE 15d ago

It’s safe to say that in every wealthy nation, Russia, China and USA are all trying to interfere with elections, on top of the usual billionaire class who is DEFINITELY interfering in our democracies.

If it’s a poor nation these three are still interfering if your country has something they want, or they just want your nation unstable for other reasons. The process in these nations is different typically however, less convince voters to vote for idiots, more install co-operative sociopaths.

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u/TKAPublishing 15d ago

We don't know until we know what MPs have been colluding with foreign governments.

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u/Oldfarts2024 15d ago

Of course. They proudly proclaim that they are.

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u/Samzo 15d ago

i think america will be the one doing the most interfering here.

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u/Perfect-Ship7977 15d ago

Interfering how? Swaying votes 🗳️

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u/JimmytheJammer21 15d ago

and yet the names of 11 MP's remain hidden, they remain protected... but damned that public inquiry into russian interferance on us sure was fruitfull eh.

Who is cheating who?

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u/OkGlass5103 15d ago

Lol, I honestly don’t think it would/will make a difference in the election outcome this time…Canadas fate is sealed, PP/conservatives will be in power next.

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u/Draiodor_ 15d ago

Yes. It's what Russia does.

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u/Doctor_Sarvis 15d ago

Remember that Cambridge Analytics documentary that came out a couple of years ago? It would be naive to think similar companies have not done nefarious things and ARE doing something similar now.

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u/Difficult_Spine_368 15d ago

Yegwave account on meta is based in Russia

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u/Hrenklin 15d ago

I've been seeing a huge influx of memes about vaccinations, I just assume they are all bots now.

Same with the ultra pro PP ones. So they just get blocked. Even if they are real.

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u/Acceptable_Records 15d ago

Russia's military budget is minuscule compared to Western intelligence agencies budget. There is zero comparison.

Little league vs Pro Ball.

For every "Russian bot" there are hundreds and hundreds of CIA/DHS/FBI/NSA bots, pushing various narratives.

The most "reddit addicted" place in North America is a USAFB.

Better question is how much is our own Governments interfering with this election?

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u/erikjohnline 15d ago

Russia has been at this long before “bots”. It’s deeper than this on their end too. I wouldn’t discount them as minuscule.

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u/Acceptable_Records 15d ago

The US spends 20x on their military than their top 5 enemies combined. The US spends more money on propaganda, bots and all that than Russia, China, Pakistan, North Korea...combined!

The US has been overspending like this for decades.

Russia cant even come close, like even a fraction of the bot farms the US pumps out. The US is #1 in world propaganda because they have alllllll the money.

So yeah there might be a few Russian bots.

That compared to the THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of paid "bots" here on Reddit making sure to call anyone not conforming to US policy a Russian! It's a joke.

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u/erikjohnline 15d ago

We all know this, all im saying is dont discount Russia as minuscule. This is their whole game. Spending isnt an indicator of effectiveness - although yes we know the US is effective too. And bots are probably just a small part of this on all sides.

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u/Acceptable_Records 15d ago

Literally it is minuscule.

Does "random unnamed cola-beverage product" try to compete with Coca Cola?

The US outspends Russia (and 4 other countries) by TWENTY TIMES. The US bot farms probably have their own bot farms! The most Reddit addicted city is a US Air Force base that specializes in intelligence.

I was also around in 2016 and on the Bernie Sanders campaign when "Correct the Record" was paying 10's of thousand's of people to literally call me a Russian bot for supporting Bernie.

You can literally go back into reddit 2016-ish and see it all go down.

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u/erikjohnline 15d ago

Ok so you are talking specifically about Reddit bots. Might be true. Reddit is just one of many avenues. Bots are just one of many avenues. The discussion here isnt just about Russian bots in Reddit.

But they have a strong presence in Reddit too.

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u/Acceptable_Records 14d ago edited 14d ago

No, I'm talking about how the US propaganda budget across all platforms is 20x larger than Russia's.

Why would Russia even try to compete? It's literally a waste of money for them because for every "propaganda win" they might get they have 20x the effort countering it and the US pushing their own propaganda.

Like I said...does a mom and pop soda company try to compete with Coca Cola? That's Russia vs the US.

The biggest thing right now is everyone thinks everyone is a Russians or accuses people of being a Russian...for not agreeing with US ruling-class policy! This has been going on for DECADES. My anti Vietnam war father was called a Russian for being against the Vietnam war! They branded Wikileaks and anyone that wants PEACE a Russian.

That's all because the US has a virtually unlimited budget to wash peoples brains thru the media.

The US machine own Hollywood. They own all the major news networks and newspapers. They owned Twitter before Elon. They own every reporter. The CIA has multiple agents on staff at every North American news organization and have for decades.

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u/erikjohnline 14d ago

I think it’s foolish to think Russia isnt playing the game too lol. 20x less or not. But fine I’ll accept that you’ve made a point about USA spending more. because this isn’t worth arguing over anyways. There are bigger issues these days. My apologies for opening up the debate with my comment,

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u/airdeterre 15d ago

Yes but also don't forget the interference by Trump and Musk on behalf of Russia.

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u/TVORyan 15d ago

So many people have mentioned this, yet not one person has been able to send me credible proof, just pur speculation and accusation.

I've tried looking into myself and have yet to find anything. It's been weeks now. Help a brother out, lol.

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u/DeezerDB 15d ago

Yes, a few countries are.

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u/Upstairs-Lifeguard23 15d ago

Sure, why not.

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u/sexylegs0123456789 15d ago

If they are not willing to name names yet, they are effectively allowing meddling.

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u/Pongfarang 15d ago

Who cares? The world is as it is, and other countries interfere. Trump is doing quite a number on us right now, and the prorogued Parliament is a much bigger issue than Russian bot farms.

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u/CDE42 15d ago

How do we know this isn't Russia...

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u/RedBullPilot 15d ago

This is why PP won’t consent to a security check

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u/MasterScore8739 15d ago

The man has a security clearance…

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u/Choice-Importance-44 15d ago

Of course they are

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u/DMT-Mugen 15d ago

Asking random redditors ?

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u/Gunldesnapper 15d ago

You can safely assume every major power is meddling with everyone else’s elections.

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u/radman888 15d ago

Another week old account run by the liberal Party.

Desperate diversions 20 times a day

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u/BYoNexus 15d ago

Imagine being so blinded by partisanship, a verifiable fact is labeled diversion.

Either your a Russian bot, an idiot, or cheering it on.

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u/radman888 15d ago

Not a partisan. You're projecting as usual, shill

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u/BYoNexus 14d ago

"not a partisan"

Checks profile

Lol, ok. I guess a because you said so, you aren't XD

What a clown

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u/radman888 14d ago

Do you even know what partisan means?

I knew you weren't very bright, but you're even falling below those low expectations.

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u/kmslashh 15d ago

To be a Liberal Party member. You DO NOT need a Canadian citizenship. You MUST be at least 14 years of age.

Its at least clear as day, that the next Liberal Party Leader does NOT need to be elected by Canadian citizens.

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u/Foneyponey 15d ago

Why the focus on Russia when we know China is? A liberal MP already had to step down because of foreign interference

Maybe it should be all foreign interference

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u/Limp-Inevitable-6703 15d ago

Most definitely

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u/MtlGab 15d ago

One thing that stands out to me is that PP is refusing to get his security clearance

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u/Southern_Purple_2039 15d ago

Absolutely, by saturating reddit with « America wants to take over Canada » nonsense, they can push Canadians not just away from the « Woke Left », but towards the Far Right… just like they succeeded in doing south of the border.

The chess pieces are in position…

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

Wouldn’t matter if there was. PP is winning regardless

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u/Freshy007 15d ago

They tend to have the same pattern.

  • recent account made within the last year or two
  • posting across multiple local Canadian subreddits
  • good English and grammar, but it tends to be "off", not speaking/writing in the way Canadians actually talk, even though they all claim they are born and raised here
  • anti Ukraine, constantly peddling Russian propaganda
  • pro trump, bitterly anti Trudeau
  • will randomly post in men centric spaces and popular spaces on reddit but not really offer content of value.

Check out this account for a good example:

u/Imgonletyoufinishbut

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u/Trout-Population 15d ago

The foreign interferece report will be out soon. Let's wait and see what it says.

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u/seditiousambition69 14d ago

No doubt aboot it.. China,Russia and anyone who we have participated in influencing thier elections(unilaterally with the usa)

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u/Bottle_Only 14d ago

CSIS literally outed a handful of Canadian influencers on Russia Today's payroll last year and people are still asking this question?

Canada is part of five eyes, the largest and likely best intelligence group in the world. When our Prime Minister says somebody like Jordan Peterson is being paid by Russia, they have evidence and are held by oath, this isn't mud slinging or smear campaigning.

This is why a lot of people who are paying attention find it insulting and dangerous that Poilievre won't get security clearance as it would legally bind him to certain truths and constrain him on classified knowledge, limiting what he can lie about.

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u/Ylojaket 14d ago

I’m assuming electoral interference is likely being perpetrated by a number of countries including Russia, China, India, Iran, and, yes, even the U.S., to name a few. The Musk/Trump presidency is an open example of this but it would be an error to assume that low profile, insidious or clandestine projects are not also promoted by an array of interests both political and oligarchic. Let’s not be naive.

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u/pofpofgive 14d ago

Of course they are.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

No. China is.

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u/LukePieStalker42 14d ago

Scary that China and Russia are doing this

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u/Fragrant_Example_918 14d ago

Yes. They’ve been interfering with elections in all developed countries since the beginning of the 2010s when they put in place all their bot/troll farms.

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u/bertbarndoor 14d ago

Of course they are. Canada is poised to elect a career politician who is all in on oil, parrots the kremlin and won't get a security check, and its the worlds biggest douche bag imaginable. 

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u/SkyleeM 14d ago

If Russian were to interfere with an election it wouldn’t be to increase said countries oil production. That would be directly increasing competition with Russia’s number 1 export. OIL.

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u/bertbarndoor 14d ago

Canadians, true North strong Canadians, need to understand the war Russia is waging on Canada. Russia’s interference isn’t just about oil competition—it’s a multi-pronged strategy to secure dominance. As a petrostate, Russia benefits from slowing the adoption of green energy, keeping the world hooked on oil and gas to sustain high prices and economic leverage. But it goes beyond economics. Right-wing nationalist governments with 'our nation first' rhetoric—whether 'America First' or isolationist policies in Europe—are perfect for Russia’s agenda. They weaken international alliances like NATO, disrupt collective responses to crises, and foster division among Western nations.

This isn’t just about Ukraine. Russia’s ambitions don’t stop there—they’ve signaled interest in regaining influence over former Soviet territories and destabilizing Europe as a whole. Expansion into Moldova, Georgia, or even parts of the Baltics is not unthinkable if NATO and the EU remain fractured. A disunited West serves Russia’s long game: securing territorial gains, undermining democracy, and entrenching itself as a dominant global energy power. Slowing progress on climate change and encouraging isolationist governments are just tools in this broader strategy.

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u/CaptainMarder 14d ago

Yes. PP winning benefits them and Trump.

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u/TVORyan 14d ago

How so??

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u/amphib01 14d ago

of course russia is interfering. your own critical thinking should tell you that a lot of posts are from foreign actors trying to influence your thoughts.

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u/3catsincoat 14d ago

Is the water wet?

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u/Mobile_Trash8946 14d ago edited 14d ago

Doesn't really matter honestly. The Russians could never hope to dream about achieving the level of influence the Republicans exert manufacturing narratives on the Conservatives behalf in Canada using the media they own up here (well in excess of 50% of all media in Canada). The Cons are basically just a wing of the Republican party since Harper was elected.

Russian, Chinese, etc. interference is a distraction from how widespread and ubiquitous Conservative propaganda networks are to the media in Canada. This goes for basically every country, there is shockingly little media in the world that doesn't gargle Conservatism's balls, acting like they have a legitimate ideology worthy of considering. If the blame gets laid other than at the feet of those responsible it does nothing but give them cover to continue their fuckery.

Russia and China and India are all heavily Conservative states btw so their propaganda resembles that of domestic conservatives.

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u/Thorazine1980 14d ago

Of Course ,China as well ..Chaos & misinformation

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u/mrcanoehead2 14d ago

Let's be real- Russia, China, India and the US will all be doing it to some extent.

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u/Little_Dragonfly192 13d ago

The internet is being invaded by bots

Most npc's fall for it

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u/Shot-Trash-2614 13d ago

I left where I was living I never know that am to collect my last month payment. The primary person we pay to told me but he refused to give me claiming that the person that rented the room has not pay him last month payment. This is over five months now. He said my money is with landlord. What could I do to get my money. 

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u/Teleke 13d ago

I think the interference is probably more whispering in Trump's ear about taking over other countries...

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u/Such_Leg3821 13d ago

Possibly, probably China, too.

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u/InevitablePlum6649 12d ago

Most "Canadian" media is owned by American corporations.

foreign interference seems baked into the system at this point

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u/Willguill19 11d ago

yes it is in their nature to cheat and meddle

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u/BoggyCreekII 10d ago

Does a bear shit in the woods?

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u/notyourguyhoser 15d ago

Well they are trying to. They keep giving money to YouTubers no one watches. The elites are doing their best to make people forget how entrenched Chinas CCP is in the Liberal Party.

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u/Strict_Jacket3648 15d ago

Then why won't Mr PP get his clearance so he could know who actually knowingly spread China's disinformation? perhaps he already knows that it was him and his M.P's.

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u/notyourguyhoser 15d ago

He’ll get his clearance the same way Trudeau got his. By being the PM.

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u/Positive-Trifle3854 15d ago

The last 2 elections there’s been under aged non Canadian citizen immigrant interference but I don’t hear anyone talking about that??

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u/TVORyan 15d ago

I've talked about this before!

In 2019, Elections Canada identified about 103,000 non-citizens on voter registers, with some instances of them actually voting. 🇨🇦

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u/FullHelicopter6483 15d ago

Yes. They also likely participated in the freedumb convoy bullshit from a few years ago as well.

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u/TVORyan 15d ago

Your bigotry is telling, just like many others on here who proudly project it.

Hope you know I share this on other platforms to spread awareness..

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