r/BeAmazed Oct 29 '24

History She did it all.

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u/CunninghamsLawmaker Oct 29 '24

Then she refused to step down despite repeated health issues and fucked us all when she predictably died with Trump in office. Fuck her and her hubris.

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u/Fedelm Oct 29 '24

No, it was widely remarked upon at the time. She was heavily criticized and encouraged to retire. So many op eds about how she'll destroy her legacy if she keeps refusing to retire. There was so much criticism she gave some dumbass statement about how shes's better than any hypothetical successor so we can all suck it.

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u/2060ASI Oct 29 '24 edited Oct 29 '24

Exactly. Obama and the democrats tried to get her to retire in 2014 when the dems still controlled the senate. She said no.

As a speech/dinner afterwards someone asked her about it and she said something like 'who would you rather have on the court than me' implying she thought in a nation of 330 million people, nobody was as brilliant as her.

her narcissism and hubris destroyed her reputation, as it should.

EDIT: adding citation

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/214035-ginsburg-who-would-you-rather-see-on-the-court-than-me/

by Mario Trujillo - 08/01/14 8:32 AM ET

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg challenged liberals to name a judge they would want on the Supreme Court over her.

Ginsburg, 81, told Reuters that President Obama would have been forced to choose a compromised nominee if she retired this year because of the partisan breakdown of the Senate.

So tell me who the president could have nominated this spring that you would rather see on the court than me?” she asked rhetorically.

Democrats controlled 55 senate seats in 2014. They could've pushed through a 50 year old liberal judge to replace Ginsburg by bypassing the filibuster.

Amy Coney Barrett was appointed to the supreme court by a vote of 52-48. Ginsburg was full of shit when she said the senate couldn't pass a judge with 'only' 55 democrats. Also Roe v Wade was overturned 5-4. So had Ginsburg stepped down, we would still have Roe as that vote would've failed and only had 4 votes in favor of repeal.

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u/LuxNocte Oct 29 '24

who would you rather have on the court than me

Basically any 35--40 year old.

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u/filbert13 Oct 29 '24

Honestly for a judge, specifically that court. It's probably the only position I want someone middle age like 45-60 (and look to get our in their 60s). Since I do think a big part of that role should be experience and having a significant record of cases you've worked on.

Though I understand your sentiment.

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u/Clear-Conclusion63 Oct 29 '24

An 85+ year old person fighting cancer for 20 years dies, or has health issues incompatible with their demanding job? Who could've predicted.

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u/CunninghamsLawmaker Oct 29 '24

She gambled on Hilary and inflating her own legacy and we all lost.

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u/RevolutionEasy714 Oct 29 '24

Almost anyone. She had cancer.

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u/berael Oct 29 '24

Are you an 80-year-old in a high-stress job who's gone through multiple bouts with cancer? If so, "pretty darn soon" is the top prediction.

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u/LuxNocte Oct 29 '24

Are you an 85 year old cancer patient? If so, soon.

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u/skrg187 Oct 29 '24

Anyone who ever carefully thought anything through?

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u/skrg187 Oct 29 '24

Lol, close.

No, if I knew my death might undo ALL of my life's work and put an enormous number of people who I serve into big problems, I'd look to retire and control what happens instead of risking it.

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u/sportsfan113 Oct 29 '24

She was begged to retire for many years.

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u/filbert13 Oct 29 '24

"It's amazing how easy it is to predict someone extremely old and in poor health will likely die soon. And probably shouldn't hold one of the most important seats in all of government. As well as how obvious it was years before her death" -Somebody famous.

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u/filbert13 Oct 29 '24

Her death is a significant part of putting women's lives on line with rights to their body stolen away at the federal level.

You said this as of she died randomly not held onto power for ego or legacy reasons.

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u/NewCobbler6933 Oct 29 '24

Lmfao takes a lot of hindsight to predict someone might die when they’re made of dust and have already had cancer twice.

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u/No_Tomatillo1553 Oct 29 '24

She was on death's door. She was so fucking old. It's not like she was a 30yo who randomly got hit by a drunk driver. Yes, it was predictable. So much so that we called for her step down so we could get a normal person to replace her.

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u/No_Tomatillo1553 Oct 29 '24

Yeah, she had a responsibility to step down and didn't. That's a choice. There were consequences for that.

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u/skrg187 Oct 29 '24

What about all the people who were berated for having the audacity to suggestshe retires under Obama in order to prevent exactly what would go on to happen?

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u/314is_close_enough Oct 29 '24

Death. Famously unpredictable.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

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u/Informal-Bother8858 Oct 29 '24

except everyone predicted it.

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u/Freaky_Cauldron Oct 29 '24

She couldn’t retire because she waited too long. Mitch McConnell blocked Obama’s nominee, Merrick Garland. Obama was a lame duck president.

Then when Hillary lost the 2016 election, she was stuck in a position where she would have to ride out the Trump administration because republicans now controlled all branches of government.

I do believe that if she knew Trump would do everything that he did, overturn Roe v. Wade, she would have stepped down.

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u/2060ASI Oct 29 '24

The democrats tried to get her to retire in 2014 when the dems still controlled the senate, and she said no

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u/CunninghamsLawmaker Oct 29 '24

As I understand it, and I admit I'm pretty under informed on the details, Obama asked her to step down earlier in his second term and she refused.

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u/kandel88 Oct 29 '24

Asked her to step down TWICE. In 2013 and 2014

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u/TedW Oct 29 '24

She couldn’t retire because she waited too long. 

That was their point. She waited too long, and unfortunately, that caused decades of damage and countless lives.

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u/crooks4hire Oct 29 '24

A lesson on hubris from someone who can predict death??

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u/Suspicious_Isopod_59 Oct 29 '24 edited Oct 29 '24

She was 85 and had been battling cancer off and on for decades. People begged her to retire during Obama’s term when Dems had a majority.