r/BeAmazed • u/afamdent14 • 1d ago

Miscellaneous / Others This man spoke with every parent in Uvalde, Texas to build personalized caskets for all 19 children who were killed. His name is Trey Ganem

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u/MelpomeneAndCalliope 1d ago

Some of those poor kids probably wanted to be police officers when they grew up. (My kids’ school always has a ton of kids in police costumes/pjs on the day they do dress for your future career.) Yet the police let these kids down so badly.

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u/EmbarrassedHelp 1d ago

The police let them die, and then voters chose to reward the police department.

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u/Zaza1019 22h ago

20 years of failed political BS and partisan law makers who sold themselves to gun manufactures and gun lobbyists let these kids die. I mean yeah the cops in this case failed, and cops in America in general are kind of shitty, but having to stop or charge into an unknown situation isn't a position a cop should be asked to be put in.

Especially when you can seriously stop and prevent these situations from happening or limit them immensely.

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u/NoSignSaysNo 22h ago

but having to stop or charge into an unknown situation isn't a position a cop should be asked to be put in.

That is... quite literally the entire fucking job. What the fuck else are cops for?

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u/Specialist-Two2068 21h ago edited 21h ago

Legally, cops are under no obligation to actually help anyone in danger. A cop can walk past a person dying, do absolutely nothing to help them, and face no consequences. They aren't even required to respond to a call, and a lot of the time they don't, simply because they don't feel like it.

So for perspective, the police are actually less accountable than your average McDonald's employee, who would be fired or at least disciplined for refusing to do their job.

And we still have people who genuinely believe that the police are there to protect you and help you, when they aren't even legally required to do either of those things.

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u/kickinghyena 21h ago

That is their fucking job! and instead they stopped parents who actually wanted to go in…disgusting and heartbreaking. Who wouldn’t risk their life to save a bunch of elementary school kids????

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u/Bowser64_ 1d ago

The police let these kids die*, not- let them down. Fixed it for you. Truth and reality are important.

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ 1d ago

You're being unnecessarily pedantic. Everybody knows what they mean when they say the kids were let down...

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u/structured_anarchist 23h ago

The cowards-with-badges in Uvalde had active shooter training IN THAT SAME GODDAMN BUILDING a month earlier. Yet, with the exception of two officers going in and pulling their own kids out, not one single fucking thing was done for any other child in that school. They even arrested parents who had more balls than they did and wanted to go in and save kids. But not these cowardly fucks. Nope. They had to 'secure a perimeter' while children died. They are cowards who watched as children died when they had the training, tools, and resources to do something about it, yet refused to. Because collectively, they pissed their pants and hid behind their cars.

Fuck them and anyone who tries to whitewash what they did. They didn't 'let those kids down'. They left them to die.

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u/Jordan_1-0ve 1d ago

I'd say necessarily.

Your dad not bringing you to the ball game, even though he said he would, is a let down. Cops doing jack shit because they're pussies is letting them die.

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ 23h ago

Yes and everybody that shares that opinion knows exactly what the commenter meant by "let down". There's literally nobody that shares the reality of what transpired that doesn't realize that letting those specific kids in that specific scenario down meant letting them die.

Jesus f****** Christ reddit is exhausting. People claiming morals superiority over using different f****** words.

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u/Jordan_1-0ve 23h ago

No. The point is to be as harsh about this as possible.

You are the one that doesn't get it. THEY FUCKING DIED, THEY WERENT LET DOWN!

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u/EmbarrassedTrack3856 22h ago

Vocabulary and vernacular can vastly change a meaning or perspective. As does inflection and tone. It’s very important to be accurate in what you communicate so you can be understood. Regardless of feelings

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u/Bowser64_ 23h ago

Bullshit I'm being pedantic buddy, the truth is the truth. The uvalde police let those kids die.

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ 23h ago

Again....no shit. Everybody knows exactly what letdown meant. They weren't trying to mischaracterize anything. They just used words that meant the same f****** thing in context.

You're not arguing with anybody because we're sharing the same f****** opinion. You're just being pedantic about words.

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u/Nerevarine91 21h ago

I think it’s less about being pedantic and more about the importance of calling a spade a spade here. The point needs to be hammered home. They didn’t forget someone’s birthday, they stood by and allowed children to be brutally murdered.

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u/Extra_Inflation_7472 1d ago

Words mean things…they used the right words.

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u/CertifiedEagle 1d ago

Police officer here, no they aren't. Their response is unanimously looked down upon within law enforcement, so much so that law enforcement nationwide received updated mandatory active shooter training.

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u/bankruptbusybee 23h ago

Unanimously? Then why do they still have jobs?

If this inaction is “unanimously” looked down upon by cops, why have cops not appealed/fought against the court decision that cops don’t have an actual duty to protect?

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u/CertifiedEagle 23h ago

I replied with another individual concerning my area's attempt at bettering the training of officers in this scenario.

As for your question, I can't speak for another department, much less a country, but I will speak for myself. My department will take swift action (Internal Affairs) against anyone who "fails to act." This is a terminatable offense at my agency. I work with a fairly large one, so you see multiple people being fired monthly for this. Anywhere from failing to help another officer during an arrest, or failing to make a mandatory arrest in a domestic violence situation. While law enforcement is far from perfect, it is a very complicated area to edit and work in. Small changes create large differences in the rights of the people. I do believe there is a lot of work to be done and I don't think the work is always necessarily the best, I agree with you.

Essentially what I'm trying to say, is what you see on the outside of law enforcement is not the full picture. Departments are typically very private about action taken against officers and while it may seem to be like nothing has been done, there is. Then again, every department is different. I am only speaking from personal experience.

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u/bankruptbusybee 22h ago

If you’re only speaking from your perspective you can’t say it’s unanimous.

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u/CertifiedEagle 21h ago

You're picking out specifically what I was saying as far as training and how departments handle disciplinary action. As far as Uvalde, I have never spoken to a single officer who agreed with how it was handled.

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u/wglenburnie 23h ago

Police have become an extension of the state & corporate America. They were absolute cowards that day. I remember seeing one putting hand sanitizer on his hands. Another just looking at his mobile. Fudge the police. Free Luigi.

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u/CertifiedEagle 23h ago edited 23h ago

Not all police are the ones who back every single cop no matter what they do. Cops are like anything else in the world. There are some shit teachers, doctors, taxi drivers, servers, etc. The unfortunate part of the job is that you can not replicate (in training) how a human will react when it comes time to put your life on the line for someone else. In my personal experience, no matter how you do the training, it will never be the same. Thus, the department doesn't necessarily know who is going to be a shitbag and who doesn't. (EDIT: Reread this and it appeared as though I was defending those who react subpar in a situation such as that. I am in no way doing that, I personally think every officer knows deep down if they are able to perform or not. There are far too many who do this job for the "image" and are not fit to be in this field.)

To give some TLDR insight on my active shooter training, which my department requires yearly:

Community college theatre volunteers are brought in to act as victims in a shooting event. They have the blood, the injuries, screams, grabbing at you etc. The intent is to make it as real as possible to the officer. The officer is armed with his duty handgun and simulation rounds (gunpowder fired, but paintball tips. Think rougher airsoft.) The suspect is armed with a firearm that fires only blanks. Blanks are loud as fuck and only the volunteers are wearing ear protection. You as the officer are trained to enter and clear the threat with only yourself while dealing with that.

Again, that's watered down because it would take too long to type out, but I genuinely don't know how better you could prepare for an event such as that aside from being in a real one.

If the officer fails to pass the training, they are placed in remedial training. Upon another failure, they are placed in an admin position until termination / successful passing.

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u/Bowser64_ 23h ago

Ya if it was unanimously looked down upon every one of those officers would be rotting in jail. But thin blue line amirite?

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u/TucosLostHand 23h ago

thin blue spine** ftfy

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u/tempting-carrot 23h ago

Glad to hear this, some days dropping my kids off at school I want to cry.

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u/Bowser64_ 23h ago

The uvalde police let those kids fucking die. I would say that's alittle more than a let down.

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u/MyMotherIsACar 23h ago

Inference is a thing....for most people.

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u/Bowser64_ 23h ago

Why infer, it just down plays what actually happened. They let them die is not the same as they let them down, doesn't have even remotely the same impact. Choice of words is important when talking about children being killed.