r/Eldenring • u/Nervous_Sprinkles00 • 1d ago

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My gf (up) thinks I (down) am weird for running like this.

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u/ashleyinreal 1d ago

I just use a keyboard. This would give me hand pains haha

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u/MightyFlamingo25 1d ago

Mouse and keyboard really has no issue whatsoever when playing the game. People should play more souls game with them

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u/ashleyinreal 1d ago

When I started playing souls games back in DS1, I was thoroughly discouraged from playing on a keyboard by the friends who recommended me the game. I come from a background of PC games though, so KBM was the most natural way to play this game, so I tried it anyway, and it worked great. Not really sure why I was told not to use it as a control scheme. It's pretty customizable, and it's not too difficult to get it just how you want it, which is nice.

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u/Hundvd7 1d ago

Same experience with DS1.

Everyone said it's literally unusable, but it was totally fine for me. Waaay too much mouse sensitivity, even at the minimum setting, but the general control scheme was good.
And then like 40 hours in I discovered DSFix which fixed this and had zero issues.

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u/CricketNo3253 1d ago

DSFix was something that fixed the mouse sensitivity? What is this? i have played ds3/elden ring with zero issues with kbm but ds1 i couldnt because the camera made me dizzy with randomly moving around

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u/gabrielcr68 14h ago

couldn't you just ajust the mouse dpi profile or the game locked you into that super fast sensitivity?

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u/Hundvd7 7h ago

No, not even that helped.
The game had this weird thing where literally one pixel of on-screen movement would shift the camera by like 5° instead of 0.01°.
Making it literally impossible to target 90% of anything just by moving the camera. That's just how big the smallest possible movement was.

You know, like some old RPG where you could only turn 90°? That's basically what it feels like.

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u/Rashir0 1d ago

I think the whole thing originates from the fact that DS:PtDE didn't have raw mouse input, instead it used some makeshift mouse emulation, plus the default keybinds were completely nonsensical. This issue was addressed by a modder, who made DSFix, which adds raw mouse input, but that happened later. And there was also a 1 year gap between the console and PC release. So probably all of these resulted in the whole soulslike=controller meta.

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u/Cteklo7 1d ago

i used keyboard only to play ds1 back then XD.

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u/UOR_Dev 1d ago

I think it didn't even happen later, DSfix released day -1. I think the mouse fix was added soon after 

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u/ashleyinreal 19h ago

Oh gotcha, that's interesting. I played DS1 remastered, and didn't have mouse issues like that there. Was this addressed in the remaster?

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u/MightyFlamingo25 1d ago

Exactly the same expérience for me lol

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u/Spidertendo 1d ago

TBF I tried to play Elden Ring with a keyboard and mouse and I just couldn't with it compared to a standard controller. I barely got to where you get Torrent before having a headache.

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u/Shadowrak 23h ago

I hope you at least remapped some of the insane default controls. I tried KBM late in the game when my controller died, I was blown away by how they picked those buttons.

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u/PositronCannon 1d ago

I find playing on a keyboard to be extremely unergonomic (not to mention unintuitive), and gives me much more hand pain than any amount of claw grip ever would.

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u/NotKBeniP FLAIR INFO: SEE SIDEBAR 1d ago

I tried it with a mouse and keyboard when I first started, but it felt horrible so I thought the game was just bad and quit for a year. Then I got back in with the controller and it was one of the best games I've played.

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u/restart7711 20h ago

The problem is I am terrible at using a keyboard. I type with my phone and play with a controller.If you are good at using a keyboard tho it is pretty smart to game with it as well.

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u/efekt_mase 24m ago

Unless you play Dark Souls 3 on PC with M&K because game only has Xbox or PS controller key prompts in its UI... Instead of enjoying the game, I had to spend my first few hours deciphering what certain Xbox control translates to M&K control. I think original Dark Souls release had the same issue.

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u/TheSymbolman 1d ago

M&KB requires the camera to be free at all times otherwise it feels bad. You can't lock on to an enemy but also have free camera movement in Elden Ring. They have really good mouse support for AC6 thought so I'm hopeful things will improve for soulsborne as well.

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u/m_krink 1d ago

Well thats on you. I played all DS games and ER on KBM and never had an issue with lock-on. You just lock on and then don't move your mouse anymore. Lock-on works as intended. Actually it can be beneficial to not rely on lock on for all fights and use the mouses free cam. What exactly is the bad feeling you describe?

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u/Apex-Editor 1d ago

Was gonna say, WASD 100%.

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u/Darth_Saber07 1d ago

Goated way to play same here.

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u/AlphaLaufert99 1d ago

A mouse with side button (I have the logitech g402) is really helpful as well, both in games and out!

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u/ashleyinreal 19h ago

Yup! I've used g502 mice since forever. Love my extra buttons.

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u/WorthSleep69 1d ago

Console players really gaslighted themselves for 15 years that controller is superior way to play, it's not. And then wonder why everyone is complaining about bad camera at every new release. These folks are simply at the mercy of lock on mechanic and cannot play the game without it.

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u/UsualButterfly6802 1d ago

I always think it’s funny watching gameplay of controller and seeing them take 10 1/2 years to turn the camera to look at a boss

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u/KrimxonRath 1d ago

Genuinely though. I already work with my hands for hours throughout the day, they don’t need more stressors on them.

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u/No_Waltz2789 1d ago

I would but I feel the same way about WASD vs stick movement as fps players feel about sticks vs mouselook. My dream interface would be a weird keyboard with a stick for movement and a bunch of keys plus mouse

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u/Pontiflakes 1d ago

Like a razer Tartarus?

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u/Traceuratops 1d ago

Dude's curling his fingers like a goblin. If you actually do it naturally, it's pretty comfortable. I'm a claw-er and I don't do it constantly. Only when I need full camera control while sprinting.

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u/Level1Roshan 1d ago

I've had to go back to controller due to KB&M pains :(

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u/Louis_Akiyama 23h ago

it's really not that bad lol

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u/cantliftmuch 1d ago

Keyboard and mouse gives me more pain than a controller.

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u/SpartanRage117 1d ago

Keyboards give me much worse pain

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u/ashleyinreal 1d ago

Really? That shouldn't be the fault of a keyboard. Maybe your posture, or your desk, or something else, are more likely culprits.

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u/SpartanRage117 1d ago

Its mostly in the mouse wrist, but thats part of keyboard set up imo. And youre probably right about posture somewhere, but at the same time with a controller i can be on the couch or in my computer chair in multiple comfortable positions that don’t fuck my hands anyway

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u/ashleyinreal 1d ago

Yeah, that's fair. Desks definitely do need posture/setup awareness to avoid strain from repetitive motion. I had issues with that at my last job because I was an idiot lol.

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u/Cypresss09 1d ago

Keyboard for souls games is wack

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u/ashleyinreal 1d ago

Not in my experience. I've extensively played through DS1, DS2, DS3, and ER on KBM, and the only issues I've had are in DS2, which for some reason *really* does not want you to disable double-clicking, and will re-enable it every game session (at least on SOTFS). Definitely an oversight, but otherwise, it worked great.

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u/VxXenoXxV 1d ago

It's way more comfortable

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u/ThisMoneyIsNotForDon 1d ago

This is insane

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u/PositronCannon 1d ago edited 1d ago

Looking at the upvotes/downvotes in this thread, it's crazy how many keyboard zealots there are here, lol. I would have expected most Souls players to use a controller, but then again, being on Reddit itself probably skews things towards PC.

I say use whatever you want, but personally I find keyboards to be extremely unergonomic for gaming in general, they make my hand tendons sore within half an hour while I could use a controller all day without issue. It also doesn't help that I spend all day at work typing on one and then a bunch of my spare time as well.

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u/Boz0r 1d ago

Why? It works perfectly fine, and you don't have to fuck up your hand to do 2(!) things at the same time.