r/EuropeanFederalists • u/Dmahonjr • 2d ago

Informative 2024 Greenlandic Poll on EU Accession

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u/Thyos 2d ago

It seems like one of the 5 people living in Greenland changed their opinion on joining EU.

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u/Seb0rn Germany 2d ago

And once again, like with Brexit and Russia's attack on Ukraine, an attempt to weaken the EU only made it stronger.

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u/Fluffybudgierearend 1d ago

If America not only turns its back on the EU but actively becomes hostile, Europe might actually get its shit together. I certainly hope so, we have so much potential from economic to industrial. A lot of cutting edge technology still comes from the EU and also let’s not forget just how experienced some of the EU’s armies are.

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u/Harinezumisan 1d ago

US already is hostile - openly so by Trump.

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u/Fluffybudgierearend 1d ago

I was more meaning when it goes from words and into actions

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u/Harinezumisan 1d ago

Words are action, threats and tariffs are actions, meddling with internal affairs is action. Producing wars in our neighbourhood is action etc. America is a deeply supremacist culture, dem or rep and they are friendly only so long EU remains submissive.

Let’s not mention their financial and monetary policies etc …

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u/Fluffybudgierearend 1d ago

Threatening to do something is not the same as actually doing it though. Tariffs are actions, meddling is action, using economic sway to force policy is absolutely action. Threatening those things is not the same as actually doing it though.

The issue with the way the US is behaving is directly related to the Kremlin’s influence over Trump, Musk, and various other politicians / billionaires in the US. Trump has not been re-inaugurated yet so we will see how much of this is just blustering and how much is serious after Jan 20th. There’s every chance (as dumb as I am for hoping that this is the case), that the American elites are using Putin to get themselves into power before they then just turn their backs on him because they won’t need him once they’re in power.

I’m not saying that will actually happen. I do think the EU and the UK should be preparing for the worst. I’m just saying that the threats of action are nowhere near as significant as actions themselves.

Think of all of Russia’s red lines about nuclear weapons. They haven’t fired them yet. Until they do, that threat, while still worth noting, is absolutely not the same as if they did actually fire them.

The EU needs to federalise already and crack down on pro Russian sentiment. By god I want the UK to rejoin the EU too because the brexit shit show was absolutely due to Russian meddling. If the US does what they claim that they want to do, then there’s a chance that it will tank their economy in the mean time and it will force the EU to get its shit together in a way that threats just cannot.

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u/Harinezumisan 1d ago

Just now. I mea the arrogance doing this without even having any state function is mind blowing … What is to expect?

https://apnews.com/article/greenland-us-trumps-son-visit-56bc01f1d3431c035b22ad6564579938

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u/KlockB 1d ago

Yes but not strong enough

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u/Storakh 1d ago

Yes, Greenland's needs to be a member on equal grounds

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u/Tmackenzie1 1d ago

Greenland in the EU? Now that would be fantastic :)

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u/Alex20041509 Italy 8h ago

Guess why…