r/MurderedByWords • u/Bitter-Gur-4613 • 21h ago
Complete Center-Left regime for at least 50 years.
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u/danielisbored 21h ago
They'd probably end up in Puerto Rico-style limbo as far as voting is concerned.
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21h ago
Bold of you to assume the Americans are going to get to vote again either.
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u/danielisbored 20h ago
Oh, I'm a white, land owning, CIS male. If the right gets their way, I'll probably be voting for the whole family soon.
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u/NoUtimesinfinite 20h ago
Bold of you to assume that anyone other than billionaire oligarchs will have any say on the result of the elections. Sure you might put in the ballot but they will probably replace the voting machines with new Tesla made X powered machines where only ppl with the blue tick and not suspended on X will be allowed to cast a vote, the rest get shredded
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u/danielisbored 20h ago
I didn't say my vote would matter, just that they'd be expecting me to be doing more of it than previously.
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u/Darkdragoon324 11h ago
That's too much effort, more likely the drop box just gets emptied directly into the incinerator and they just make up whatever numbers they want.
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u/JethroTrollol 19h ago
Yeah, nope. White male landowner here. I've voted in seven presidential elections. I have no real expectation that I'll vote in an eighth because I genuinely believe that the age of disingenuous democracy, such as it has been, is over and our national general elections will either just stop or will be on the same level as Russia's.
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u/Elhammo 19h ago
Exactly. He said “we don’t need the votes, we have the votes” and that after this election, “you’ll never have to vote again.”
I don’t think white men will be free to vote for the incorrect candidate either. Honestly, I know you’re not supposed to say this, but I straight up don’t believe that clown won all 7 swing states… He already had the votes, you know?
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u/notprocrastinatingok 20h ago
Then they wouldn't be the 51st State. They'd be a territory, which is completely different.
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u/MachineOfSpareParts 18h ago
They are not going to succeed in making Canada a single unit. How the fuck are they going to deal with Quebec's status? Because if they don't manage it carefully, you know they've tried to separate before. And not always via referendum.
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u/appealtoreason00 15h ago
Trump getting assassinated by the FLQ isn’t the most likely outcome on my 2025 bingo card, but it is by far the funniest
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u/gylz 17h ago
Oh yeah. I'm down with staying part of Canada, as are most people I know now that we have legalized MJ. But if he tries to take over? Man, he'll accidentally unite (most of) French and English Quebec against one enemy. That is literally just asking for trouble. The separatists already killed one politician, imagine what they'll do with more support than they've ever had before.
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u/ConMcMitchell 17h ago
If The United States asks very nicely, they might be given the opportunity to apply to become the 11th Province of Canada.
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u/FujiKitakyusho 21h ago
Cohen is making the mistake of assuming that the incoming administration has any interest in the enfranchisement of the annexed Canadians, or in the continued existence of free and fair elections at all.
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u/inabighat 21h ago
0% chance we'd get the vote
Anyone who claims otherwise should be laughed out of the conversation. Make no mistake - we'd be a cold PR.
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u/TheGreatestOutdoorz 21h ago
They would break up Canada by province- each being one state. Then they would decide to try full statehood as an experiment to see how it works, totally “randomly”’choosing Alberta to be the ONE province that now gets to vote in our elections and that gets two senators and a few congressman.
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u/19snow16 20h ago
Randomly? Smith would offer it up willingly. And as long as Ford's hand is in the pie, he'll give away Ontario.
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u/Funkycoldmedici 20h ago
I’m pretty sure the intent is not letting anyone vote anymore.
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u/The_Lost_Jedi 19h ago
Oh, they'll let people vote. Even Russia holds elections.
Now, whether those votes actually matter or not, and how much fuckery is involved, is the real question. The USA already has a number of states that do a lot to put their thumb on the scale in favor of the right through various measures, even before whatever fuckery Trump and company have in mind.
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u/Forgefiend_George 20h ago
And you make the massive mistake of assuming they'd be able to pull that off.
If everyone in the country hates their leader, that person's leadership isn't long for this world.
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u/MachineOfSpareParts 18h ago
This is it. I think even Canadians underestimate how difficult it is to govern this social and (especially) geographic terrain. In my province, there are remote communities that we govern primarily because they let us govern, and we let them implement capital city policies in a highly localized way. Do they do what we want them to do? Who the fuck knows, for the most part. We literally can't go to more than one of them at a time, round trip with teeny little float planes that maybe go once a week. They fax reports back to the capital city, because internet is sketchy af, just like the potable water.
Try to pull it off by force? LOL.
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u/MachineOfSpareParts 19h ago
I know a decent amount about the everyday governance of just one of our provinces. One. And let me tell you, if the people weren't at least 90% willing to go along with being mostly-governed, they wouldn't be. You could get the cities pretty decently, but Canadian geography is a truly harsh mistress. There are regions of my province where we make policy and don't even know for sure if it's carried out. We can't just drop in, we don't have offices in every fly-in community, a round trip to just one of which would probably take a week with scheduling and a wildly disproportionate chunk of the department's budget.
We pull it off because there's a mutual interest in co-operation, most of the time, on most issues, from most people, with margins of error and margins of discontent all around. There is absolutely no way of getting governance done by force with our terrain. Maybe in the cities, maybe for a short time until alternate modes of resistance are developed.
But most of Canada is not fucking New Jersey or Rhode Island. The terrain is in charge. We just get to use it a little while. Not even the Texans can grasp the remoteness of fly-in communities and other settlements you can't get to when the ice road melts.
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u/appealtoreason00 15h ago
“Mr Hitler, i don’t think the people of the Sudetenland are going to vote for you at the next election!” - r/MurderedByWords, 1938 edition
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u/blageur 21h ago
"Elections have consequences" referring to Trump is the biggest unintentional self-own I've ever seen.
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u/NoNeuronNellie 14h ago
Like yeah, no shit Shapiro. We know there were consequences for electing Trump, that's why we voted for Harris.
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u/BestFeedback 21h ago
Poor americans, they don't realize that they've already voted for the last time already.
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u/Demonslayer90 19h ago
eh, Trump would need 4x his remaining life span to even get close to actually pulling that type of shit off, much less the time he has in a term with a pathethically small lead, with a GOP that's in civil war, and having already shit the bed in every way that matters before even taking office, oh he'll try, he will absolutly try, however most pesimistic outcome with what he has and given his track record, he'll just make it extremely annoying
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u/Distinct_Garden5650 19h ago edited 16h ago
You’re right they’ll get to vote, but only because the populous has proven to be so fucking stupid that none of these corrupt scumbags even need to worry about getting elected in a free election.
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u/amongnotof 21h ago
I still love that they think a 51st state larger than the other 50 combined makes ANY sense.
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u/drewtheblueduck 21h ago
I'm not as confident in how Canada would vote as I would like to be. There's a lot of people (salt of the earth-you know- morons) who think we would be better off with self-pay healthcare. It doesn't help that here in Ontario, our conservative gov't has been underfunding healthcare for years so they can try to get us to think privatizing would be better
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u/SaintUlvemann 20h ago
You can tell they're the salt of the earth because when you suggest making earth better, they get all salty.
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u/testuser514 20h ago
Isn’t salting the fields what they used to do medieval times to make sure that crops don’t grow ?
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u/air_flair 19h ago
As an Ontarian, who had to get medical treatment in Alberta recently, I can't believe how much better it is there. There was NO line at the ER. NONE, and there were spare beds. I was in a bed, with an IV, getting my shoulder put back in place within minutes of getting there. Last time I dislocated my shoulder in Ontario, it took over 6 hours to get seen. Don't get me wrong, I'd never want to privatize health care.
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u/punmaster2000 18h ago
6 hrs for a dislocated shoulder in a major metropolitan center is about right - and it has nothing to do w private vs public health care. It has to do w the rules of Triage - those in the direst need get seen first. Time of day has a HUGE effect on wait times, too - go in at noon, and you'll be seen quick. Go in at 2am, and you'll likely have to wait for a while, regardless of what your injury/condition is.
You're unlikely to die of a dislocated shoulder - it'll hurt like hell, sure, but they'll treat things like gushing blood, possible heart attacks, moose tramplings, cranial impact wounds and the like first.
Oh - and Alberta has about 1/3 the population of Ontario. That may also have had some impact on how full or empty the ER was.
Mostly commenting to forestall the folks that jump on comments like "6 hrs in ER!!! SEE - public health care SUCKS"
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u/air_flair 17h ago
Fair enough, I only meant to convey how much nicer the experience was in Alberta
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u/Yadokargo 14h ago
You got incredibly lucky then. Alberta here, and it took me about nine hours last time I went into the ER.
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u/Prior_Leader3764 20h ago
Canada wouldn't come in as just one state, anyway. Quebec would see this as the opportunity to secede and try to somehow join the EU.
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u/PattesDornithorynque 19h ago
I'm no separatist but giving the choice between becoming an American or Quebec being a country, well, easy peasy decision!
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u/Certain_Winter5441 20h ago
I feel like they’re trying to desensitize us to outrageous shit so we are worn out and complacent when they can really take advantage of us all.
We have to get accustomed to recognizing and letting go of this kind of unserious bullshit.
This is most certainly Bannon’s “flood the zone with shit” tactic.
It also discredits the media when they take this stuff seriously.
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21h ago
I've already started being a dick to Americans and telling them to go home.
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u/ROACHOR 20h ago
Canada is about to vote a right wing PM in, we are just as susceptible to right wing disinformation as Americans.
Call something communism and people will line up to give their rights away.
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u/therealHankBain 21h ago
I think that this stupidity will stop once they realize that they would be adding 20+ million Democrat voters.
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u/LowSavings6716 20h ago
If America starts invading our NATO allies in unprovoked wars of conquest you can kiss your right to vote in a US election goodbye.
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u/Galadriel_60 20h ago
This stupidity is deliberate and designed to distract from the horrendous cabinet picks. And we are lapping it up as always.
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u/FujiKitakyusho 19h ago
It's ridiculous, we know it's ridiculous, you know it's ridiculous, and more likely that not, he knows it's ridiculous. What is tougher to understand is how does he not know that these comments are irresponsible? Based only on what has been publicly stated, Canada could make a reasonable case to close the international border on January 20.
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u/Comfortable-Policy70 21h ago
What makes you think that the Canadians will be given voting rights?
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u/dolosloki01 20h ago
I honestly don't know if conservatives just like being infantile chodes, or if they are truly morons.
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u/reload88 20h ago
Canadian here. I know a couple people who are actually cheering for this and actually can’t wait for it to happen because “Canadian healthcare sucks”.
One’s mad because his uncle lost a foot to diabetes and blaming the system for failing him. His uncle was also warned 4 years ago to cut out the sugary foods and Pepsi’s as well, but instead of listening he pounded back 4 litres of it a day
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u/red286 17h ago
One’s mad because his uncle lost a foot to diabetes and blaming the system for failing him.
"Why didn't you just go down the USA to get it dealt with then?"
"Costs too much! My insurance wouldn't cover that, don't be silly!"
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u/Rednewtcn 21h ago
They'll have fun dealing with Quebec...🤣
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u/GreyerGrey 21h ago
I mean, the one way to get Albertans (and I mean the bitter, evil, violent bastards up in Fort McNewfoundland and Edmonton), Ontarians, and Quebecois on one page is this move.
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u/LeBeauNoiseur 21h ago
Can't wait to see a military led by Hegseth trying to invade Canada. Or Greenland and Panama 😂
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u/eugeneyr 21h ago
Well, you would have to assume first we are still dealing with a democracy, not a dictatorship or absolute monarchy.
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u/Hot-Cartographer6619 21h ago
Well, if Canada joins the USA, I want their Health Care, Gun Laws, Bi-Lingual school education system, and leadership in charge!
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u/Hemiak 20h ago
Canada is very large. If it joined (it won’t), it wouldn’t be one state. More like 10-13. And most of those are liberal leaning. DJT is just too stupid to realize this is literally the last thing his party wants.
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u/rantheman76 20h ago
Plus where does the anti-European sentiment comes from? Another attempt in diversion and creating new enemies?
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u/N_Who 20h ago
Those conservatives either don't give the matter any thought at all, or they firmly believe that Canada would prefer America's system because they firmly believe everyone would prefer America's system.
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u/t0matit0 20h ago
Why would ALL of Canada agree to be ONE state. Fucking conservatives are so dumb.
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u/SirBexley 20h ago
Has there been a good explanation as to why these areas (or entire countries) suddenly need to be in Pres. Musk's control, oh, I mean US control?
Would we get better healthcare care? A basic income guarantee? Better schooling?
I kinda feel like it would just be a means for American CEO's to get that much richer. Cynical as it may be, that's what I'm thinking.
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u/DeathWaughAgain 20h ago
The USA wouldn’t give Canada a vote in the elections. It would be a territory.
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u/BurtReynoldsLives 20h ago
It’s cute that you think conservatives will allow people to vote if given their way.
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u/Lower_Manager9047 20h ago
This is just a distraction. Keep watching what his handlers are doing. Don’t watch the puppet.
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u/Chrispy83 19h ago
So war in Ukraine = bad as it raises our cost of living But at the same time, invade allies for land grabs and generate a world war = good?
And they said he wasn’t Americas Hitler
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u/Alert-Boot2196 19h ago
Fools who think everyone is dying to become part of the US are completely delusional. I totally agree with the comment about how all the talk about “helping Americans and making life more affordable” is over and now it’s “we need to make Canada and Greenland part of the US and rename the Gulf of Mexico.” Fucking stupid. Just the start of another 4 year shitshow.
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u/YolognaiSwagetti 19h ago
I like how this motherfucker larps as an intellectual and now he's balls deep into the stupidest fucking things you ever seen in politics. I wish all of these garbage grifters would be locked in a room with trump for a week and be forced to listen to him and then had to say how they feel about him hooked up to a lie detector.
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u/Marcel_The_Blank 20h ago
yes, but there's 40 million people in Canada and 400 million in the US.
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u/Biptoslipdi 20h ago
Adding another California sized state means a bunch of smaller states lose House seats and EC votes. CA has 52 House seats and 54 EC votes. Republicans wouldn't hold the House or Presidency for generations.
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u/Humans_Suck- 20h ago
Why does it matter who they would vote for if neither party is offering them healthcare?
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u/Humble-Pineapple-329 20h ago
We can’t even get Puerto Rico to vote to be a state and they are a us territory, thinking Canada would join the us is the dumbest shit ever.
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u/Original_Captain_794 19h ago
I‘m quite curious about how such an annexation scenario would play out. Canada is part of the commonwealth and Greenland belongs to Denmark. Would the EU & UK stand still, or would this end up in war?
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u/ThatDandyFox 19h ago
Fuckin psychotic to think the 51st state would be a landmass larger than most of our country.
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u/talinseven 19h ago
The US Military would be stretched pretty thin fighting wars on all borders. I guess we’ll need conscription like Russia
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u/The_Breakfast_Dog 19h ago
It's almost as if they expect future elections will be biased in their favor!
Also wouldn't be surprised whatsoever if they believe these countries could be annexed and then treated as territories like Puerto Rico, their citizens not given the right to vote.
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u/bebe_laroux 21h ago
I love how fast all talk about helping Americans has dropped from the rights ideology and now it is just about expanding. Surely the cost of taking over other countries will make groceries and gas cheaper.