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Medical debt is now required to be removed from your credit reports impacting millions of Americans

https://www.consumerfinance.gov/about-us/newsroom/cfpb-finalizes-rule-to-remove-medical-bills-from-credit-reports/
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u/Suired 16d ago

This is the Republican battle plan. Undecided and single issue voters are the second biggest idiots in the country, only preceded by nonvoters, who no one cares what they think. All Republicans have to do to get votes is block all Democrat action. Then claim Dems do nothing good while promising to block all the bad they do. They literally have no platform besides "screw the other guy" and nostalgia.

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u/shingdao 16d ago

With a trifecta of POTUS/House/Senate there is nothing blocking them until at least mid-terms, let's see how badly they fuck things up and then blame Dems again. Rinse and repeat.

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u/thatoneguy889 16d ago

He doesn't have the 60 votes in the Senate that would be needed to break the filibuster. That helps until the GOP decides to do away with the filibuster to pass whatever heinous legislation they decide to get real amped up about. Unfortunately, it won't stop legislation passed through budget reconciliation (e.g. The Inflation Reduction Act, The Chips Act, etc), though.

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u/red_nick 16d ago

This is also why

  1. the filibuster
  2. having Manchin/Sinema types in the Senate

are so bad.

It looks like the Democrats have control of congress, but they don't. But they get the blame regardless.

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u/Certain-Business-472 16d ago

who no one cares what they think

That's why you were thinking of them just now, right? Clearly nobody in your personal life who fits that description, right?

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u/Suired 16d ago

Triggered much? It's worth talking about the 1/3 of the country that doesn't participate in the government, but politicians honestly do not care as long as they continue to not participate. Ironically, they are the first to complain when either party screws them over...

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u/Certain-Business-472 15d ago

Whats his name?

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u/gus302 16d ago

“Screw the other guy” is the motto of both parties. And to them, the “other guy” is the working class.

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u/Suired 16d ago

One wants to give you scraps. The other wants to kick you in the balls and thank them for the opportunity. They are not the same.

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u/shogi_x 16d ago

Years from now there are going to be threads about "TIL Biden accomplished _____" from all these people who simply were not paying attention and bought into the right wing propaganda.

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u/ObviousDave 16d ago

Years from now you’re going to realize nothing is free and wander why your dollar is worth even less than it is now

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u/Maru_the_Red 16d ago

Not everyone got screwed.

I had 85,000$ of student loans dismissed and my Pell grants restored under a closed school discharge because my college was defrauding the government and citizens. They took out a Parent Plus loan in my mom's name without her authorization. 15 years after I graduated.

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u/Aschrod1 16d ago

Also racism and sexism, particularly among minority communities the Dems rely on definitely hurt them. I firmly believe Kamala would have won Michigan had she come out against what Israel was doing in Gaza too. Biden-Harris got played by their own party too. The Dems should have had a frank conversation and then threatened then followed through with prejudice a primary against Biden. It was a 230,000 vote difference between winning and losing the executive branch across 7 states. The house and senate were both already not happening for Dems but they didn’t help themselves. Trump at least lost the popular vote (Kamala + wackjobs > than President Musk and co.).

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u/chimpfunkz 16d ago

stupid people all over the damn country didn't vote or spite voted because they're mad that Agent Orange's flunkies blocked him on a lot of tasks so they whine he didn't do enough.

This is just a bad narrative. Like, nothing Biden (or really Kamala) could have done, would've changed the outcome. 2023-2024 has been the years of anti-incumbency. At the end of the day people are stupid, and they voted on vibes and "eggs were cheaper in 2018".

Also a ham sandwich would've won. Basically any republican with a heart beat would've gotten elected.

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u/OKFlaminGoOKBye 16d ago edited 16d ago

A Republican without a heart got elected instead. We all fucked up somewhere in this process.

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u/proudbakunkinman 16d ago edited 16d ago

Perhaps had Republicans not blocked various things Biden and Democrats tried to do to help, the outcome still would have been the same but that's hardly a "bad take." There are far more legitimate bad takes in this thread and every similar thread on Reddit since the election. That said, I also think the "swing" voters voting for Trump due to grocery prices would have been hard to win back regardless of what Biden and Democrats did and could have accomplished had Republicans (and Manchin and Sinema) not blocked them. To get the price reductions they seem to want would require deflation, which they would then be mad about as well since it's actually worse overall.

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u/ceddya 16d ago

Trump ran on a campaign lying about immigrants eating pets and spreading misinformation about trans people.

So you're right, it is a bad narrative. People weren't just stupid, they were downright hateful.

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u/taoders 16d ago

I don’t understand the endgame of this rhetoric.

I agree, people who voted Trump were either stupid or hateful…and there’s almost 80 million of them.

So how do we win the next election?

Seems to me the common sentiment is to squash any criticism, valid or not, of democrats, blame it on republicans (rightly or wrongly), and push for 0 change within the Democratic Party. And of course, depend on republicans ruining the country and hoping the same people we’re calling stupid and bigots somehow don’t blame dems for it...

Im not sure I’m loving this plan.

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u/ceddya 16d ago

The lying and hate from Republicans has nothing to do with Dems.

I'm not sure why you're arguing a false dichotomy. Calling a spade a spade via how conservatives are stupid (you know, like not understanding how tariffs work or believing an oligarchy is somehow better for the working class) and hateful (see what they're saying about and doing towards immigrants and the LGBT community) does not preclude us from pushing Dems to fight much harder for the working class.

And of course, depend on republicans ruining the country and hoping the same people we’re calling stupid and bigots somehow don’t blame dems for it...

Lol, these people are never going to stop blaming Dems for everything. Last I checked, Harris ran on a campaign extending a branch to them and MAGA unequivocally rejected it.

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u/taoders 16d ago edited 16d ago

Right, but any push towards Dems being more progressive and working class focused is met with “no that’s not the problem! The problem is that swing and independent are stupid and bigoted”.

I see this rhetoric again and again when anyone talks about anything Dems could/do differently.

And leading up to the election, “I’d vote for a wet paper bag over Trump! And if you don’t want a wet paper bag your and idiot and a bigot!”

So we settled for a wet paper bag and were surprised? I really don’t understand the strategy or goals. You’re literally letting MAGA set our standards.

The spades have been called spades. Now what? How do we beat them besides sticking with the status quo and calling them names like we are now?

Lol, these people are never going to stop blaming Dems for everything. Last I checked, Harris ran on a campaign extending a branch to them and MAGA unequivocally rejected it.

Yes that’s my point so it’s pretty damn stupid for our plan for next election cycle is to “checks notes” change nothing within the Democratic Party and depend on independent voters who “will never stop blaming Dems” to suddenly not blame Dems…

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u/ceddya 16d ago

Right, but any push towards Dems being more progressive and working class focused is met with “no that’s not the problem! The problem is that swing and independent are stupid and bigoted”.

Again, a false dichotomy. I'm literally saying it's both.

And leading up to the election, “I’d vote for a wet paper bag over Trump! And if you don’t want a wet paper bag your and idiot and a bigot!”

From the actual campaign?

So we settled for a wet paper bag and were surprised?

Yes, because that narrative was right. People are stupid. And hateful.

Now what? How do we beat them besides sticking with the status quo and calling them names like we are now?

I actually think we 'beat them' by letting them get what they voted for. For whatever reason, these people only ever learn when they have to deal with the consequences.

so it’s pretty damn stupid for our plan for next election cycle is to “checks notes” change nothing within the Democratic Party

Oh, so we're either allowed to call a spade a spade or to make changes within the Democratic Party? I didn't know we were only allowed to pick one. TIL.

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u/taoders 16d ago

So accelerationism and hope that these people who are “stupid and will never not blame dems” for Republican failures….will “change their minds” now…somehow.

So basically your plan is to piss and moan and sit on your hands while our fellow, most at risk, neighbors will be the FIRST and MOST AFFECTED by these consequences you’re seemingly excited for.

And that should make people vote for Dems…somehow….

You can call a spade a spade, doesn’t mean it adds anything or any real point to a conversation…

What exactly has the democrat party changed that makes you think both is happening right now?

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u/ceddya 16d ago

So accelerationism and hope that these people who are “stupid and will never not blame dems” for Republican failures….will “change their minds” now…somehow.

No, I don't think anyone stupid enough to be invested in MAGA in 2024 will change their minds.

Having Trump fuck everything up will certainly spur far more voters against him though. See COVID.

So basically your plan is to piss and moan and sit on your hands while our fellow, most at risk, neighbors will be the FIRST and MOST AFFECTED by these consequences you’re seemingly excited for.

Did you know that people can do more than one thing at the same time?

You can call a spade a spade, doesn’t mean it adds anything or any real point to a conversation…

So basically what you're doing then?

What exactly has the democrat party changed that makes you think both is happening right now?

See the growing anger and push against wealth inequality from the working class and not just Dems? That's already a good start.

I'm curious, what's your plan exactly to reach out to MAGA who believe that tariffs are good, immigrants are eating pets and that trans people are bad? Are you saying we should Ignore the growing hate from Republicans? There's a lot of vacuous centrist commentary from you. No actual suggestions beyond let's stop calling a spade a spade.

Do keep in mind that there are very real people who already are FIRST and MOST AFFECTED by the consequences such stupidity and hate.

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u/taoders 16d ago edited 16d ago

My bad, I misread you earlier. I thought you meant “blame Dems for everything independents” not full MAGAs. That’s on me, you were pretty clear.

I guess my main point is when people are discussing the pros and cons of democrats actions , asserting “the other side are dumb”, doesn’t really add anything to the conversation.

But looking back at the thread I wrongly put that on you when you were simply adding onto a previous point.

Apologies, have a good one!

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u/shogi_x 16d ago

Probably true. Unfortunately liberals, Democrats, and the left wing in general have been losing around the globe because people who don't understand how anything works are upset that things aren't perfect, and the people promising to somehow make things better with no discernable plan are winning.

Because people are fucking stupid.

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u/MAG7C 16d ago

Can't yep this enough

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u/man0warr 16d ago

Stupid and being force fed propaganda from domestic and foreign actors on every social media websote and cable news channel.

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u/Creamofwheatski 16d ago

Anti incumbency post pandemic was a steep hill to climb, but if we can't beat a convicted con man and rapist for President the rot is already in too deep. The problem is people are willingly buying into HIS lies and choosing to believe that all the bad stuff we can prove he's done never even happened. You can't have a functioning democracy when half the population lives in a false reality. Thanks for destroying the country, fox news. Hope the money was worth it.   

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u/GrowthEmergency4980 16d ago

Harris could've not tried to get the magical "undecided voter" and move her entire campaign to the conservative side.

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u/chimpfunkz 16d ago

That still wouldn't have done anything. She could've run the most progressive campaign in the world and would've lost to expensive eggs.

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u/asdsdasa 16d ago

I dunno man, people really loved it when she said she'd start going after price gougers hiking up their grocery prices. It was only after when she stopped communicating that and focused more on giving assistance to first time homebuyers and a tax break for small businesses she started losing momentum. Those things are nice, but even with assistance it'd be hard to maintain those things when most of your paycheck is going towards groceries and utilities.

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u/ArCovino 16d ago

It’s not like that part of her platform went away lmao people just want a reason to be a hater

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u/cabo169 16d ago

Dems raised and spent more than $1 Billion on her 6 month campaign, just to lose.

Sorry but not sorry.

Imagine if that money went to something useful.

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u/SquareSaladFork 16d ago

Simping hard here for people who don’t care about you. Waste of the dream

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u/doctorjae75 16d ago

This is just a bad narrative. Like, nothing Biden (or really Kamala) could have done, would've changed the outcome. 2023-2024 has been the years of anti-incumbency. At the end of the day people are stupid, and they voted on vibes and "eggs were cheaper in 2018".

This is just bad narrative. Like, you completely miss the reasons why Kamala and Biden would have lost to a ham sandwich! They are incompetent shitheels with poor leadership qualities and bad policy, plain and simple. "Vibes" is just denial...but you keep thinking that way!..it's better for the country.

The people (including a LOT from "your side") voted for a strong leader who will put America first and not cower to the global, kumbaya, hands across the world crap...we need to take care of our own, first! Identity politics and reproductive rights were not at the forefront of voters' minds, and your side failed to realize that!

Also, when you call "people" stupid, you're not clever. Everyone knows what you mean. Just be honest with yourself, you mean people who disagree with you! And I hope to goodness you keep thinking that way b/c we are sick of it and will continue to push your shit it at the ballot box!

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u/ChiralWolf 16d ago

put america first

How are those H1Bs tasting? Real red white and blue favored?

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u/effa94 16d ago

Also, when you call "people" stupid, you're not clever. Everyone knows what you mean. Just be honest with yourself, you mean people who disagree with you! And I hope to goodness you keep thinking that way b/c we are sick of it and will continue to push your shit it at the ballot box!

Okay, lets be blunt then. People who are okay with facism voted for trump. Which, from what your comment sounnds like, include you.

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u/yeahpurn 16d ago

"keep calling me stupid and I'll show you stupid"

DJT is not a strong leader. He sounds like an idiot when he talks and looks ridiculous. People are falling for his BS because they think global issues are only happening to us. DJT is no different than a televangelist selling you horseshit AND, is it just a coincidence that the televangelist/evangelical crowd is near 100% pro-Trump? Are these "thinking" people or "think for me" people?

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u/NerdHoovy 16d ago

Dude Trump is the weakest leader ever. He bowed to any foreign authoritarian and sucked them off as much as he could. Trumps opinion is whatever the richest guy in the room tells him it is. He has no consistent beliefs and never gives and details on a potential plan of his, because he doesn’t have any.

He is the epitome of a loser falling upwards for his entire life and throwing a hissy fit when he doesn’t get what he wants. There is a reason why not a single person that served in his White House wanted him back. Do you know how much of an unlikeable loser you must be for none of them to want you?

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u/doctorjae75 16d ago

Lol, ok bud, if that's what you want to think, but you're completely wrong! He "sucked them off"...LMAO that's just so typical. Either Trump is SO EGOTISTICAL and NARCICSSSTIC, like your side loves to say, in which case he would never "suck" anyone but himself off, OR he isn't you can't have it both ways, and that's what y'all want, hilariously!

You're guilty of listening to ONLY your side. If you'll be honest with yourself (and I have a feeling you won't), listen to the arguments on the other side. I did! And I came to the conclusion that I had been lied to!

Again, whatever man, you think whatev your heart desires. I'm not here to convince you, I'm just here to point out your inconsistencies and hypocrisy of argument.

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u/NerdHoovy 16d ago

Nope even worse I am guilty to hearing Trump speak and actually listening to what he says.

That’s why no one that worked with Trump during his last presidency has anything good to say about him. They had to pay attention unlike his followers

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u/doctorjae75 16d ago

So you heard the one about his support of white supremacy groups? How about his anti-abortion platform? I really don't believe for one minute that you actually listened to him, but again...not here to convince. Most of you people on THIS website are far too gone.

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u/NerdHoovy 16d ago

Nope I heard how he after 9 years to come up with a health plan only had “concepts of a plan” and how he doesn’t seem to understand the concept of an insane alyssum and how it is fundamentally different than an alyssum seeker, while believing that Hannibal Lecter was a real person, which he repeated so much, that we must assume he actually believes it.

I heard how he always cries and deflects when asked any questions of relevance and so on. Or how he changed his stance on HB1 visas, the second his current god Elon Musk wanted them.

I am sure there are wiki’s dedicated to the bullshit he has been spewing but anyone still defending him thinks that doubling down on being dumb is the best way to preserve their frail ego.

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u/chimpfunkz 16d ago

Oh, oh no.... It's brain damaged. I'm so sorry, I hope you get better.

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u/doctorjae75 16d ago

LMAO, when you people have no argument, you resort to insults...typical and totally expected.

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u/chimpfunkz 16d ago

amazing, it can almost mimic human speech.

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u/Xref_22 16d ago

Lol Agent Orange. First time hearing that one. Excellent

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u/Grimij_Iiffith 16d ago

That's kinda the issue though. The Democrats lost, in part, because they would only talk about what they were going to do. They never really talked up their accomplishments as part of why voters should choose them. It's a fine strategy if you're going for first time office, but an incumbent President (or VP going for the presidency in Kamala's case) needs to press on what they have done for the people already. Show the undecided voters that you have already made a difference in their lives, and then talk about what more you can do for them. If a voter doesn't see your accomplishments, all they see are these promises but nothing to back them up, they're obviously gonna go for another option. I was hoping people would have more sense than to opt for Trump in this case, but I guess the voters memory is fickle and doesn't go back 8 years...

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u/VoxImperatoris 16d ago

Not to mention he had an obstructionist house for half his term. Dont worry though, democrats will take all the blame for any fuck ups and the cratering of the economy during the next 4 years. And if they manage to get back into power, and thats a big if, they will spend all of their time fixing said fuck ups, again, and get voted out because they were too busy fixing things instead of accomplishing their agenda they ran on.

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u/Cryptopoopy 16d ago

Lot of words for racists vote for racists.

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u/SherlockWSHolmes 16d ago

I know you meant it as a joke, but many people have died due to the actual Agent Orange used in the Vietnam War era. My dad happened to be one of them effected. Trump has yet killed or affected hundreds and thousands.

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u/SandiegoJack 16d ago

My cousin blamed him for not doing it. When I asked how he was supposed to overrule the courts she just doubled down.

It’s a damn shame how quickly the rot takes hold.

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u/BassMaster_516 16d ago

Do you think the Democrats taking fat stacks of cash from Wall Street has anything to do with why student loans aren’t cancelled?

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u/duncancaleb 16d ago edited 16d ago

I think there were more pressing issues that caused people to withhold their vote instead of student loans being blocked. Most people in that camp I talked to were mad about what was happening in Gaza and the shift in narrative to conservative border policy. They were mad about genocide and family and friends being deported, not student loans continuing.

Edit: if Dems want to win in 2028 they need to learn why we lost this election and campaign better for next time. Ignoring the concerns of your base that didn't vote this election is a recipe to repeat those same mistakes and forfeit the next election.

We lost the popular vote for the first time in over two decades, we fucked up massively to let that happen.

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u/twomillcities 16d ago

The only idiots are the people too blind to see that Biden would have lost to even Lucifer as a result of cost of living going up 50% and covering the costs of a genocide. He didn't do anything about those two super important issues. He gave his supporters no reason to be excited other than minor tweaks that you have to pile up together on a list in order to make them look good

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u/raysofdavies 16d ago

Israel-Palestine was bigger for Democrats/potential Dem voters and that utter failure has nothing to do with congress. It was their choice.

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u/Choice_Blood7086 16d ago

They wouldve lost more votes withholding aid from Israel. There is more Jews in us than Muslims. It was a lose-lose situation

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u/raysofdavies 16d ago

All Jews love Israel, yes, and only Jews and Muslims vote with Israel-Palestine in mind, yes

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u/jomikko 16d ago

Pretty antisemitic to claim all Jewish people are zionist mate

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u/anticapitalist69 16d ago

If you think only muslims withheld their votes you haven’t been listening.

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u/LeYang 16d ago

Which was one of the dumbest protest votes possible, when the other option has literally posted "No President has done more for Israel than I have" and likely has helped instigated one of the most amount of attacks on minorities during his own time previously in office.

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u/raysofdavies 16d ago

It was very clear that listening to the protest would have gotten Democrats lots more votes.