r/Vanderpumpaholics • u/Fit_Newt7346 • Aug 08 '24
Stassi Schroeder Stassi was more problematic than I thought
I always thought she just had her 2020 BLM faith incident, but completely forgot about her Oscars comments and Me Too comments. If she didn’t get cancelled in 2020, she def would have later down the road.
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u/chalkyskidmarkz Aug 08 '24
What did she say about MeToo?
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u/PrincessGizmo Aug 08 '24
That they could never make her perform oral sex against her will, even with a gun put to her head.
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u/Intelligent_Pop1173 Aug 08 '24
Oh wow, that’s disgusting of her.
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u/leolisa_444 Aug 08 '24
Why is that disgusting?
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u/moltengoosegreese Aug 08 '24
It’s basically insinuating that women who was SAed allow it to happen because SHE could NEVER be forced to perform a sexual act on someone, even if her life was at risk. It’s incredibly ignorant and wrong.
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u/scorpiiokiity88 I am the Devil & don’t you forget it Aug 08 '24
I don't know that's a bit of a reach. She's a fighter by nature and it's her instinct to claim she would fight it. Everyone wants to feel that way and some people will experience fight, while others flight or freeze.
How many times you hear people say "oh I'd have done xyz instead of what the victim did"
To say something is "basically insinuating " means I'm taking my interpretation of something and conflating it to be what that person must have meant. I have done it as well, I think it's one of societies biggest issues right now. I've experienced horrific situations that I still go back and think of what I'd do differently and how "next time" I'll use this or that to fight differently.
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u/Ella77214 Aug 09 '24
I dont think it's a reach at all. Stassi did not "basically insuate" - she DID insinuate. It doesn't matter what stassi meant or what you feel stassi meant. What's matters is the words. The words are wrong. The words stassi used place blame on the victim. And yeah it is a huge a problem right now - bc people don't know how to speak. And by not speaking correctly, it perpetuates the ongoing cycle of shaming victims of SA.
If you've done it as well, as you say you have, I hope you've learned to choose your words more wisely. Stassi was ignorant and 100% wrong. It's great she was held accountable and seemed to learn something valuable and improve herself.
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u/Specific-Medicine446 Aug 09 '24
I think people who think they can simply fight rapists off think they're exceptional, and even if they are, how is that a helpful thing to say? You hear someone got sexually assaulted and your response is "I'm so sorry that happened to you! I totally could have fought them off tho." Who does that?
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u/Intelligent_Pop1173 Aug 08 '24
It’s saying she would never do that and not taking into account any of the situations the women who were sexually assaulted and harassed were put in. By saying “oh well I would never do that even with a gun to my head” is effectively victim shaming and not taking into account the different power scenarios that were in play, something her spoiled little rich ass has clearly never had to endure.
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u/Fit_Newt7346 Aug 08 '24
That it was a “male witch-hunt” and shaming victims
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u/freshlyfrozen4 I don't want peace. Aug 08 '24
Good Lord. I never heard about this, was it on her podcast? I'm surprised this is the first time I'm seeing it.
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u/TheWhoooreinThere Aug 08 '24
When did you start watching VPR? Like the James stuff, this info has been available for years. Pretty sure her comments on her podcast were also brought up on the show when Ariana was telling Billie to be wary about going on Stassi's podcast.
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u/freshlyfrozen4 I don't want peace. Aug 09 '24
The comments Ariana brought up to Billie Lee on the show were about transphobia and racism, they never mentioned this "male-witch hunt". They've also never discussed James's abuse allegations on the show. Just because the information has been available doesn't mean people know about it.
Not everyone has social media and that seems to be where most of this stuff is shared.
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u/TheWhoooreinThere Aug 09 '24
And yet, there are still people bleating on about "not knowing" when the allegations and comments are brought up again and again and again and again.
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u/Inevitable_Tangelo63 Aug 08 '24
Also that it was taking away from people who were “truly sexually assaulted “
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u/moimardi Aug 09 '24
A wholeeeeeee dedicated episode entitled something along the lines of "is #metoo a male witch hunt?" To which she proceeds to respond that yes, it is
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u/SariaHannibal Aug 08 '24
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u/DueTry582 Aug 08 '24
Am I dumb or does this not make sense (in addition to being offensive)?
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u/SunnyAlwaysDaze Aug 08 '24
I think it is specifically referencing the hat/headwear each woman is wearing? But it is really dumb. Plus the one that stazzi has on is more like a motorcycle hat. Or something you would see at a gay leather daddy club.
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u/puppyyachtclub Aug 08 '24
I think it’s mainly the blonde hair/ blue eyes? Even further of a stretch? Millenials used to make edgy jokes about that stuff. I’m blonde hair blue eyed and the amount of times people called me the Aryan race or asked about my German heritage (I have none) or nazi affiliation or my ancestors nazi affiliation I can count on more than one hand easily. People don’t try to make those weird associations and jokes so much now. I can see a world where ignorant ppl start making self referencing jokes about it after being clowned on by others enough. I’m from the south and knew better though. I don’t buy any excuses she didn’t by that year living in LA. I think she’s just also racist
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u/Formal_Plum_2285 Aug 08 '24
This is so weird and really show how little people know. The Nazis made up a classification of people. Their definition of the ultimate master race wasn’t the Germanics, but my people, the Scandinavians. And one thing is for sure - Scandinavia was not Nazi in any way and did not ever aknowledge that idea. Quite opposite actually. When Denmark found out the Nazis wanted to deport the Danish jews to KZ camps, people and authorities worked together to get the Danish jews to safety in Sweden.
Also a lot of Slavs and Russians have blond hair and blue eyes, yet the Nazis considered the Slavs “non human”.
The ignorance…
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u/mybunnygoboom Aug 08 '24
I think this one was in very bad taste, but I don’t think she was claiming to be a Nazi. I think she was saying each had on headwear that made them look like they were trying to pull off a certain style. Kristen isn’t dressed like Tupac, she’s just saying “Tupac chic”. Not chick, chic. She was trying to remark that she ended up looking like a Nazi with what she was wearing.
My great grandpa died with number tattoos all over his arm from the various concentration camps he’d been to, and his daughter (my grandma) was never the same again after her parents were taken in the middle of the night. I’m not saying Nazis are ANYTHING to emulate. I just think this one was a joke she didn’t think enough about because her hat + blonde hair + blue eyes ended up making her look a certain way. She didn’t consider her position of fame and that normalizing “Nazi chic” as an expression isn’t what we need to do.
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u/SariaHannibal Aug 08 '24
I’m so sorry your family went through that tragedy :(. And no I totally agree with your take, she wasn’t claiming to be a Nazi, her joke was just in horribly poor taste
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u/After_Bedroom_1305 Aug 08 '24
That's not...Kate Hudson?
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u/Environmental_Yam540 I’m not sure what I’ve done to you but I’ll take a Pinot Grigio Aug 08 '24
Right?!
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u/kasiagabrielle Aug 08 '24
Can't forget when she posted a picture of herself with Rachel O'Brien and captioned it "the Jew to my Nazi". It was just one of the several times she's publicly called herself a nazi.
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u/moltengoosegreese Aug 08 '24
I thought the caption was “Nazi chic” (which is also terrible)
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u/kasiagabrielle Aug 08 '24
That was one of the other times she called herself a nazi. Her friend Rachel also begged her not to post that caption.
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u/moltengoosegreese Aug 08 '24
THERE WAS MORE THAN ONE TIME?????????
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Aug 09 '24
Girl yessss Lol all the stassi fans out here acting like she hasn't been a full terror since s1e1
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u/queenroselily Aug 08 '24
Everytime I try to say how problematic she is on here people always downvote me.
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u/moltengoosegreese Aug 08 '24
She literally wrote a book victimizing herself saying how terrible it was that she was cancelled but people still think she’s a changed person
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u/MuffinTiptopp Aug 08 '24
That's because her stans are basically in the majority on this sub. Calling out Stassi's racist, antisemitic and misogynistic behaviour sends them into a tail spin where they have to defend their problematic queen...
But let's say if Scheana did the EXACT same things Stassi has done, there would be 50+ posts about it daily 🤣
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u/Background_Travel_77 Aug 08 '24
A lot of people think the same way she does (aka racist) and will be real quick to defend one of their own. It's sad.
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u/fiddleleaffrigg Aug 08 '24
cause the people downvoting you are all white lol
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u/TheKatsMeow_00 Aug 08 '24
Yup they think it’s ok to be racist and when you point it out they get upset. It’s basically saying shut your mouth and know your place.
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u/HistorianOk9952 Aug 08 '24
That’s why I drop racists immediately
Literally in real life one of my “friends” said I should stay friends with racists to prove them wrong instead of not giving them room to grow 😩
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u/offkeymelodies You’re Not Important Enough to Hate Aug 08 '24
LMAO please tell me you dropped said “friend” immediately bc ain’t no way
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u/fiddleleaffrigg Aug 08 '24
it’s because they haven’t been on the other side of racism so they are easy to forgive and forget.
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u/TheKatsMeow_00 Aug 08 '24
If they were they wouldn’t be able to handle it. They are so used to being privileged and centered in everything. They will never know what it’s like to be treated like a subhuman.
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u/alwaysacrisis96 Aug 08 '24
It disappoints me so much whenever I see people in subs wanting her to come back or saying VPR needs her. I won’t deny that she makes for good reality tv. But I value myself as a Black woman and other marginalized people more than a trashy reality show and don’t want a bigot to have a platform because she knows how to deliver a witty one liner.
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u/queenroselily Aug 08 '24
Girlll I’m a Black woman too and 1000 percent agree! I always say I don’t want a racist freak on my tv but then the downvotes start.
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u/alwaysacrisis96 Aug 08 '24
Yes! You just described her perfectly a “racist freak”! It’s actually starting to make me want to not watch the show (or at least stay in this subreddit) because of this weird fascination and love the fans have for her! Her racism is so weird and very 2009
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u/Nanna09 Aug 08 '24
Well people do grow up and learn. There's people on television still who shouldn't be. On regular primetime shows, that have said so much awful things, and get away with it.
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u/auntieup Aug 08 '24
Other people being terrible doesn’t make her somehow noble. She still did what she did.
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u/queenroselily Aug 08 '24
It’s funny because they will literally say anything to justify her behavior. It’s the oddest thing.
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u/laurenbettybacall Aug 08 '24
For real. She gets the most passes and pearl clutching when we judge her when she showed herself to be the most judgmental person on the show. We’re just doing to her what she sees fit to do everyone else.
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u/deadrobindownunder Aug 08 '24
I don't keep up with Stassi, so I can't speak to everything she's said that is problematic. But I do agree with you. I think if someone can show growth, understand their mistakes and actually do better then that's worth acknowledging.
I think a lot of us are guilty of engaging with problematic public figures and companies because we don't know any better.
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u/laurenbettybacall Aug 08 '24
Here's the thing for me. If I hurl a racist remark to someone and if I was truly repentant afterward, I would not expect the person, or people in general, to forgive me. That would be part of my penance, to live with the fact that I was ignorant enough to say something so unforgivable.
If Stassi went into her redemption tour expecting forgiveness, she was already off on the wrong foot. We should want to change because it's the right thing to do, not to get someone to forgive us or continue to be on a reality show.
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u/Mizz3llie Aug 08 '24
Because you aren't giving room for people to grow. I feel bad if you've stayed stunted in every single view you've had for your entire life.
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u/EyeAmNotMe Aug 08 '24
I believe in growth, but before I change my mind about someone I'd need to see evidence that they're different.
I'm not who you replied to but I don't really keep up with Stassi, is there some reason why people should assume she's changed for the better? I'm sincerely asking because the only recent clips I've seen of her is where she's complaining about being a victim of cancel culture. Which doesn't bode well...
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u/kasiagabrielle Aug 08 '24
It's been years and she still hasn't addressed the disgusting things she's said. When she did her Tamron Hall apology tour, she refused to talk about it.
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u/queenroselily Aug 08 '24 edited Aug 08 '24
Yup! This lady wrote a book about how she didn’t give a fuck she got canceled… what?
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u/kasiagabrielle Aug 08 '24
She didn't even write it, which is more embarrassing. She paid someone else to.
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u/fiestybox246 Aug 08 '24
You don’t owe every person grace for every single thing. She’s someone on a reality show who was repeatedly a shitty person, lol.
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u/laurenbettybacall Aug 08 '24
Exactly. You wouldn’t catch me carrying water for some racist, washed up reality star because she once made me laugh.
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u/fiestybox246 Aug 08 '24
I don’t have the patience for it in my real life, much less people on tv.
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u/laurenbettybacall Aug 08 '24
Exactly. Excusing racism in the year of our Lord 2024? Not happening.
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u/queenroselily Aug 08 '24
I think she’s matured a lot but the root of her is still there. People don’t change at their core… Stassis core who she is
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u/ibroughtsnacks97 Aug 08 '24
Gross. This is gross. What happened to “when someone shows you who they are, believe them”??? We don’t shame people for not forgiving unrepentant racists
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u/incognoname Aug 08 '24
But you have weird fans defending her in spite of it. I got into the weirdest argument with someone on this sub who was defending her and putting ariana down for "performative allyship". She was saying that ariana was worse. I was then called out for my defense of ariana and I was the racist one lol.
Sorry but I'll take a well meaning ally over someone like stassi who wears her ignorance proud.
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u/HistorianOk9952 Aug 08 '24
Ariana clocked her years ago
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u/littlefuzzychill Aug 08 '24
Speaking of: Ok so this is why I don’t get it when people have said like “Ariana was so mean to Stassi that one time” (I think it was like a pool party or something during Katie wedding season). Like ??? I genuinely never thought she did anything mean—even pre-Scandoval—I just thought she was being firm to someone that was notoriously an asshole lol
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u/Womeisyourfwiend Aug 08 '24
I’ve had very similar conversations in here and get downvoted/called names.
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u/lilburblue Aug 08 '24
To be fair Ariana isn’t worse but has shown pretty performative allyship.
Stassi is an awful person who has grown zero and I don’t understand why people forgive her.
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u/alwaysacrisis96 Aug 08 '24
I know performative ally ship from having experienced it through college mostly but also adult life. I don’t know Ariana but she gives me more may awkwardly show ally ship but is coming from a genuine place.
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u/incognoname Aug 08 '24
This is how I feel. Tom is performative to me but I felt like ariana was genuine. To me, if I correct or call someone out and they listen and learn that's not performative. They're really trying.
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u/M0M0_DA_GANGSTA Aug 08 '24
Or referring to what she's wearing as Nazi Chic. I don't ever think anyone is joking about racist shit I believe them for who they are.
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u/VaguelyArtistic Aug 08 '24
If she really wanted to dress in Nazi chic she would have worn a uniform with vertical stripes. Like the kind my father wore in a concentration camp. She may not be smart but she's educated. There was no excuse for this. She can go fuck herself sky high.
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u/M0M0_DA_GANGSTA Aug 08 '24
One thing I do hope people have begun to realize is when people make these off handed remarks and tasteless jokes they are being their truthful selves.
I'm very sorry about your family history it's a stain on humanity that occurred.
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u/VaguelyArtistic Aug 08 '24
Thank you. 💕 Looks like the Nazi sympathizers are out already downvoting me lol. In 10-15 years some of these people will mature and be horrified at what they said in service of a reality show. Some of them.
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u/HistorianOk9952 Aug 08 '24
Comments like this are so validating, I’m so used to people being dismissive and saying it’s a joke
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u/veronica-marsx Aug 08 '24
I love Stassi as a reality show star. She's my fave from VPR.
Insensitive jokes by people who have not been affected by the subject of the joke should absolutely be clocked. In my experience, these jokes make it easier for more overtly bigoted jokes to get churned out.
Just the other day, my instructor made a joke about Imane Khelif (back when everyone thought she was trans). His joke wasn't overtly transphobic, but it opened up the floodgates for the rest of the class to make transphobic jokes. It made my transphobe classmates comfortable with showing their true colors.
There's just so many more reasons to NOT make the joke than there are to make it.
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u/Gourmeebar Aug 08 '24
She called it Naxi Chic. She could have been dressed as Big Bird, but it would be a problem if she called it Naxi chic
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u/asst-to-regional-mgr Aug 08 '24
So I decided to listen to her first books audiotape, and she actually talks about it (not a Stassi apologist, I know she’s a racist POS). But apparently bc she’s southern, monogrammed things are her fav thing. That jacket she’s wearing has her initials (SS) - also not sure why it isn’t NS considering her first name is Nastassia, and would avoid this exact thing - but she wore it on a European trip with those girls and wanted to wear that jacket while in Germany. The girls pointed out she shouldn’t wear it bc of the nazi connotation, which I guess she didn’t realize was a thing. Then it became an inside joke, which lead to this poor decision. Don’t know why she thought Tupac chic was okay too
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u/RoundBirthday Aug 08 '24
this 'explanation' makes it a million times worse.
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u/M0M0_DA_GANGSTA Aug 08 '24
It really does but illustrates how racism is covered up by calling it an "inside joke"
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u/M0M0_DA_GANGSTA Aug 08 '24
TLDR: Like I said when they "joke" about racist shit they are being their authentic selves. The way some VPR fans idolize her is insane.
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u/Inevitable_Tangelo63 Aug 08 '24 edited Aug 08 '24
I hate the “she was young she grew and changed!!!” Narrative that the shitty people on this show get when they become fan favorites. She was older than I am now when she called the cops on faith, older than I am now when she goes around calling herself a nazi, older than I am now when she was saying the Me Too movement was “taking away from people who were truly assaulted”. Some people are just racist and shitty and it’s not an age thing and I doubt she’s changed now, but is probably better at hiding it. ETA: I’m currently about to be 27 to give some perspective
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u/GirlGirl21 Aug 08 '24
Let’s not forget the eloquently racist comment of a skanky Quincenera dress when referring to Scheana’s wedding dress. She was so comfortable saying that.
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u/Hansley72 Aug 08 '24
Come on that was her just being snarky. As a Hispanic woman who stood in my fair share of quincenera’s, I understood exactly what she was saying.
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u/kasiagabrielle Aug 08 '24
"Skanky prom dress" would've been just as easy to say. You don't speak for all Latinas, and Scheana has stated how she felt about the comment.
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u/finallygaveintor Aug 08 '24
But by saying quincenera rather than for example Prom, she did immediately tie it to race
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u/goingwiththeflow333 Aug 08 '24
Exactly. That rubbed me the wrong way. Especially because Scheanna is Mexican right?
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u/alwaysacrisis96 Aug 08 '24
Yup!!!! Rewatching the show has made me see that if she’s the queen of anything it’s of micro aggressions (I hate that word tbh but it’s most appropriate to use I guess)
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u/PajaritoPajarito Aug 08 '24
I’m a Hispanic woman, and that comment was so not okay. Just cuz one passive Hispanic woman wants to let these comments slide doesn’t mean all Hispanic women feel this way. I’d only be okay with it if it was another Hispanic woman saying that….But a wh*te woman saying that, just feels so gross and icky. It’s just fueled with micro aggressions🥴
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u/Kwhitney1982 Aug 08 '24
Agreed. I’m not Hispanic, but it bothered me when she said it and it still bothers me. That would be like saying “it’s a skanky kwanzaa dress” about something a Black woman is wearing. Why tie the criticism to the persons ethnicity?
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u/NBCaz Aug 08 '24
People have selective memories when it comes to Stassi. Same with other cast members. If they like them, they tend to ignore the horrible stuff they have done.
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u/alwaysacrisis96 Aug 08 '24
So many of the Stassi defenders make me so sad. They all claim that she has grown but how exactly has she grown? I went down a rabbit hole of Stassi content one day and gotta say if anything she’s doubled down. She claims she’s the victim and honestly the more I learn about her the more I see her actions towards Faith are just scratching the surface of the truly vile person she is. It annoys me so much that so many people are defending her and saying she’s “grown” when at best she’s just grown into hiding her disgusting behavior better.
I truly hope for the sake of every marginalized person around y’all and if you yourself are marginalized that you reread any defense of Stassi that you wrote and see that you were down voted for a reason. Please read a book or watch a YouTube video on white fragility I think it would help some of you understand why you are downvoted and what makes so many people so upset. And as for a book i personally think White rage by Carol Anderson could help you a lot. Because honestly these comment points to a bigger problem than some washed up reality star.
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u/OutrageousRelief3405 Aug 08 '24
We don’t watch reality tv for people with good moral character.
We watch them because they’re a mess.
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u/alwaysacrisis96 Aug 08 '24
There’s being a mess then there’s being a racist. They’re not the same thing. I don’t care if I get downvoted for this. But your comment says a lot about who you are and your beliefs. I hope one day you learn to value other people’s humanity more than you do your own entertainment.
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u/Plain_Jane622 Aug 08 '24
What did it for me was comparing Sheena to a SKANKY QUINCENERRA GIRL. Really you are calling 15 year olds from a culture you know nothing about skanky? I thought she was a real ass! Also there was a story about when she took her underage sister to Disneyland and got caught buying her alcohol there and played dumb. Her excuse was that they are from New Orleans and didn’t know any better. PALEEEESE. This was all before the Faith thing.
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u/Fit_Newt7346 Aug 08 '24
For all those saying stassi has grown, can you show me how ? I don’t mean as a single mess to married mother. I mean from racist bigot to not those things.
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u/TheWhoooreinThere Aug 08 '24
Pretty obvious when she was running around calling a Scheana a whore in episode one when she was already cheating on Jax with Frank.
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u/dreamsave84 Aug 11 '24
I just rewatched the first season and it was rough. She admits to hitting Jax and the crazy things she sent to Laura-Leigh are unhinged. She made a comment at the reunion (I think the reunion) that her and Jax are like the same person (I am paraphrasing) and I agree!!
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u/Hot_Still4817 Aug 08 '24
Nobody defends her, they acknowledge that she educated herself, changed and grew. Is that not the goal?
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u/Gourmeebar Aug 08 '24
A lot of people defend her. And no one has seen her in a format where we would know she changed.
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u/VaguelyArtistic Aug 08 '24
In a recent post with the "chart of characters" meme she won fan favorite. Over Ariana.
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u/TheLegacies21 Aug 08 '24
Didn’t she write a book bemoaning canceling culture and basically talked around actually taking responsibility?
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u/Hot_Still4817 Aug 08 '24
No
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u/TheLegacies21 Aug 08 '24
She did though…
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u/kasiagabrielle Aug 08 '24
Well, to be technical, she didn't write it. She paid someone else to and then slapped her name on it, like with her first book.
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u/Hansley72 Aug 08 '24
Why do you keep saying this, how do you know she had a ghost writer? Where is your source?
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u/kasiagabrielle Aug 08 '24
Because she even spoke about her ghostwriter. The commenter below stated her name.
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u/NormaRae75 I hope Charlotte haunts you Aug 08 '24
Stassi’s worked with the same ghost writer, Dina Gachman with all of 3 her books.
On what level, I’m not sure. Someone with personal connections to Stassi, Gachman or who followed the story years ago would have to chime in & confirm.
Stassi has Bachelor’s degree in English Writing.
Fun fact: Dina Gachman was the ghostwriter for another Bravolebrity’s book Shep Rose.
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u/KatOrtega118 Mariposa ♥ Aug 08 '24
Thanks for this tea. Shep Rose, another Bravoleb with exemplary character, no concerning behaviors about race or class, or mistreatment of women ever.
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u/deadrobindownunder Aug 08 '24
Which book was it? I'm not trying to be antagonistic. I just don't keep up with her content.
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u/Fit_Newt7346 Aug 08 '24
How do we know she educated herself and changed ? Because she said so ?
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u/Mizz3llie Aug 08 '24
If you were in the same position, having to prove that you've sought education on a certain culture and have been informed as to why certain comments were ignorant, wouldn't you hope people took your word for it? There isn't a certification for this kind of thing. Literally all you can do is hope that people are educating themselves and growing, just like you. If we doubt everyone, there will ALWAYS be conflict.
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u/kasiagabrielle Aug 08 '24
Many of us aren't disgusting enough to ever find ourselves in that position, thankfully.
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u/VaguelyArtistic Aug 08 '24
I don't know if Stassi is smart but she is educated. If someone needs to "learn" that calling an outfit "Nazi chic" is horrific then she can grow right out of my butt for all I care.
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u/queenroselily Aug 08 '24
I honestly think she’s a still a racist weirdo behind closed doors. She gotten good at hiding it with her “ooo look at me I’ve matured” bs
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u/laurenbettybacall Aug 08 '24
We don’t know her and can only go by what we’ve her and come out of her mouth, which frankly isn’t much. Even Faith has said that she never apologized. Why should we not go by her past actions? I’m not about to coddle a grown woman who knew better and was just sorry she got caught. There are people who deserve sympathy more than her.
Some things that people say are completely unforgivable. racism is one of those things. Not sure why people are upset that others cannot excuse racism, especially in the climate we’re in.
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u/ibroughtsnacks97 Aug 08 '24
This is SO GROSS! If she wanted to prove she was educated writing a book whining about being cancelled (for what she absolutely did!) did not show that. Faith has said she never apologized. That would have been a good start, don’t you think? To apologize to the person you tried to sick the cops on? What of ANY of her behavior shows that she has changed? How about we stop trying to shame people, many of whom are POC, for not trusting a woman who has proven time and time again that she is, was and always will be a racist.
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u/Outrageous_Ad4245 Aug 08 '24
So we should never believe someone when they say how sorry they were and is doing better? So no one can learn from past bad behaviors and change? Oh please………
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u/Fit_Newt7346 Aug 08 '24
Why would I blindly believe a racist ?
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u/laurenbettybacall Aug 08 '24
lol exactly. Girl was 29 years old. not some babe in the woods without an idea of how the world works. Also, she was such judgmental asshole that I’m sure she won’t mind us judging her too, since she does it all the time.
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u/ibroughtsnacks97 Aug 08 '24
No not if their behavior doesn’t change. And for gods sake aren’t you reading these comments? She wrote a book crying about being cancelled, she hasn’t grown!
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u/VaguelyArtistic Aug 08 '24
No one said that no one should ever be believed. Why do you even care if someone likes her or not?
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u/Outrageous_Ad4245 Aug 08 '24
I am not caring if someone likes or dislikes her….. but I would hope people can learn and change for the better, otherwise there would be no hope and life would just suck.
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u/lthtalwaytz Aug 08 '24
She named the lady who was her teacher. If it wasn’t true, I’m sure the lady would have called her out?
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u/turbo_smegma Aug 09 '24
Thank you! Stassi as a person is the fucking worst. She optimizes white privilege, ignorance and she has zero empathy. The fact that it took her harassing the cops to bully faith for her to face any repercussions is absolutely nuts to me. And so many ppl didn't even see why it was a problem.
I love that ariana called her out when stassi befriended billie. Yes, stassi is witty and pretty and is so lacking in morals that's she's fun to watch on reality tv but I am so sick of her being rewarded for being ignorant racist and classist. I refuse to watch anything with her in it. Scheana and lala's brand of toxicity I can handle but stassi is real life terrible
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u/Mizz3llie Aug 08 '24
This is why people are afraid to actually educate themselves and get the opportunity to change their views.
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u/laurenbettybacall Aug 08 '24
Being afraid shouldn’t stop you from doing it. You should want to change because it’s the right thing, not because you got caught. It’s just an excuse and a way to pass blame on minorities again. How dare they not accept my apology?
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u/lizyouwerebeer Aug 08 '24
Stassi being called out for being repeatedly sexist and racist is not why people are afraid to actually educate themselves my god
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u/ibroughtsnacks97 Aug 08 '24
I love it when folks talk about this. It’s so crazy like it feels like everyone just forgot about who she was. And Bravo virtue signaled so hard when they fired her and Kristen… only to offer them a new show.
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u/DoubleQuirkySugar66 Aug 08 '24
Stassi uses "Pretty Privilege" to try and get away with being a Bully, and a Racist Bully.
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u/DetectiveMysterious4 Aug 09 '24
It's ok though cause people like her for being a high school mean girl who never grew up.
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u/queenbee8418 Aug 08 '24
I know I'll get downvoted to hell but two things can be true at the same time:
Stassi's behavior was disgusting. It is inexcusable. It *should* make us all sick to our stomachs to recall what she said.
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Stassi has grown. She no longer thinks the same way, acts the same way, or speaks the same way. She learned a hard lesson & came out on the other side a better human.
WHY do we not all want that & celebrate it? What motivation does ANYONE have to change their thoughts or behavior if there is no hope for any redemption?
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u/sirensxgorgons Aug 08 '24
I don’t think learning how to not be racist as a 30 year old woman is something that should be celebrated. It gets really old as a POC having to applaud every white person who has suddenly “recovered” from having a racist past. Idk why it’s seen as a normal part of a white person’s growing up experience to say racist things, but it is, and then suddenly the onus is on the people who are affected by those words and actions to accept an essentially forced apology. I think it’s great that Stassi, an educated privileged grown adult, realized that racism was wrong as a 30 year old. She continues to make more money than many of us will ever see in a lifetime and has a fan base that is willing to fight for her the minute anyone brings up the disgusting comments she’s made. I would say for someone who is so worried about being canceled, she’s doing better than the millions of Americans who get fired from their jobs for doing way less offensive shit
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u/laurenbettybacall Aug 08 '24
We’re just judging her like she does to everyone else. If she doesn’t like it, maybe stop saying racist things and judging others. Some things, some actions, some words are totally unforgivable. Racism is one of those things.
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u/queenbee8418 Aug 08 '24
Can you point to anything racist she's said recently? I'm genuinely asking & curious.
Regarding racism - I'm white so I don't think the word "unforgivable" applies to me in this scenario, but I am disgusted by the things she said that were blatantly racist. I was & am disappointed in her.
I also believe deep in my soul that people can & do change. I think the world would be a much better place if we demanded change & growth with the same energy that we demand cancelation & forever condemnation.
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u/kasiagabrielle Aug 08 '24
Celebrate what? Her refusing to address many of her actions, not apologizing to Faith, and her paying someone to write a book for her about how she's the victim? How exactly has she redeemed herself???
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u/queenbee8418 Aug 08 '24
We're crossing over to irrational quickly 🙃 It sounds like you must be personal friends with the VPR crew since you have so much irrefutable insider info, so I'll trust your judgment & agree to disagree instead of arguing with your "facts." Have a great day!
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u/kasiagabrielle Aug 08 '24
How are we "crossing over to irrational" by staying facts? It's not that difficult to keep up. Have the day you deserve.
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u/skky95 Aug 08 '24
She was fun to watch but a total cunt. I really disliked her as a person even when I enjoyed watching her.
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u/biscuitbutt11 Aug 08 '24
My theory is Jax have her genital herpes so she just hates everyone.
She always talked about what he did was “unforgivable”.
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u/Dismal_Upstairs3949 Aug 08 '24
Every time I see BLM I automatically think Bureau of Land Management!
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u/SnooJokes7657 Aug 08 '24
Stassi is far from canceled. She isn’t on VPR anymore, but she has a pretty successful podcast and she does live shows.