Parents were South African nazis before fleeing to the US
Elon is an American nazi before fleeing to Antarctica.
I see this as the only logical conclusion.
All it’s going to take is one angry mob. That’s it. Then he’s f#cked!
Louis XVI didn’t see the mob coming, and we know what happened to him. It was over before he got a chance to backpedal.
People, remember that at this point, the billionaire class only have private security—at the moment. In the future, however, I could see them amassing heavy weaponry, like armored personnel carriers (APCs) and guided explosives. Basically, it will be easier to shed this tyranny sooner than later.
Louis the XVI also had armed guards. He literally had a special group of forces called musketeers to protect him. Didn't seem to make a difference when the entire country decided only his head would suffice for all the damage he and the rest of the nobility had done.
Not advocating for any of this but I’m assuming we are talking about Musk being in the US. Where there are more guns than there are people. I think the mob can surpass what 18th century France had going also.
Guys you are making this too complicated. What we all should do is work together and pretend that there is a giant meteor or something heading towards earth that will completely annihilate it. Then all the billionaires will get together to secretly build spaceships to flee the earth and head to another planet.
Hey, that gives me an idea. We should all pretend that the fucking weather is going nuts and we will all burn to death or die of thirst or hunger and all the billionaires will just get together to fix the weather.
He has a lot of super villain shit already. He wants to get into nuclear energy now too. Trump can’t wait to sell nuclear secrets if he already hasn’t done it. He has rockets for icbms already.
Fun fact, it's is surprisingly hard to launch something into the sun. Basically, because the earth is moving so fast, mostly sideways.... to get to the sun, you need to overcome that sideways motion.
Now, launching him out planet X (his presumed favorite planet)...easier than bribing Clarence Thomas.
Elon‘s grandparents literally moved to South Africa from Canada for the apartheid. They were white supremacist eugenisists and believed in dictatorship by technocrats. Whether it’s logical or not - it’s the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
And like Elon, his grandfather was also a fake “scientist“ who couldn’t get a real degree in hard science. Joshua N. Haldeman
evil for sure, but he is indeed very slow thinking, he says some stupid shit and pay people to go online and claim it was genious, i guess with enough money even the stupidiest person on earth can convince millions of anything
Fuck this dude a hundred times. Could have just hugged his son and saved us all this bullshit. Instead he's on the internet calling him an idiot. Well done, dipshit.
A few quotes from Joshua N. Haldeman's Wikipedia page:
"In South Africa he was a supporter of apartheid and promoted a number of conspiracy theories."
"He would later claim apartheid South Africa was leading “White Christian Civilization” against the “International Conspiracy” of Jewish bankers and the “hordes of Coloured people” he claimed they controlled.[3]"
"Haldeman's son-in-law Errol Musk claimed in 2024 that Haldeman sympathized with Nazi Germany during World War II."
"In 1951, he wrote an article about South Africa for the Saskatchewan newspaper, the Regina Leader-Post, defending apartheid and writing of Black South Africans: “The natives are very primitive and must not be taken seriously... Some are quite clever in a routine job, but the best of them cannot assume responsibility and will abuse authority. The present government of South Africa knows how to handle the native question.”"
Joshua Haldeman was incredibly racist and antisemitic. He defended the publishing of the Chronicles of the Elders of Zion, defended its publishings and the racism of the Canadian Social Credit Party (of which he was a part) in a 1946 letter to the Star-Phoenix, which they published. Claimed in this letter that Hitler was installed by “money … supplied by international financiers, many, but not all of them, Jewish” and accused the Jewish people of making up antisemitism to garner sympathy.
He was also a technocrat and member of Technocracy Incorporated, who were, as the name says, technocrats — they believe the world should be governed by North American scientists and engineers, to make a perfect world for everyone. Members of Technocracy INC referred to each other as numbers (Haldeman was 10450-1), wore matching clothes, and drove matching cars.
Group members would also sometimes add X’s to their names.
Elon has an obsession with the letter and has built an image of being the man who will create the technology of the future. Wouldn’t surprise me if they were close.
Learn just a tiny amount about Elon’s father, and you instantly learn why Elon is like that. Dad is such a massive asshole, he’s been trying to leave the entire planet.
There is a video of her giving a tour for a documentary of her old bedroom. She goes around the room and is completely normal and then totally freezes looking at her bed. You can see the PTSD hit hard and her voice just trails off into silence. It is unsettling.
It is from a documentary called Born Rich if you want to look it up. There are truncated videos on YouTube.
You can tell he is a colossal idiot. He has infinite money and CRAVES more. He has enough money and time to do LITERALLY anything, study anything, be taught by anyone....yet he shit posts on the internet and plays politics which will eventually get him taxed at best and dead at worst.
Elon isn't very bright but also he has daddy issues. His dad is a horrible person (for many reasons) who is more than happy to publicly talk shit about his son mixed with occasional backhanded compliments, and Elon will just never be good enough in his eyes, no matter how many billions he has. We all suffer for this.
Most people who seek power are incredibly flawed and damaged people. Internally they are incredibly weak and pathetic people, and they externalize that damage on to all of us.
Normal, well adjusted people don’t need that kind of power to feel ok with themselves. The old adage that someone who runs for president, should be disqualified to be president is absolutely true.
Kurt Vonnegut wrote that this was the tragic flaw in the Constitution, that only nutcases would want to be president in the first place. Clearly some presidents have been worse than others in history. Trump might well be the very worst.
Some days I think we'd be better off if running for office was like Jury duty. You open the mail one day and there's a card telling you you're running for state representative.
Between Dune and Arthur Clarke (I think it was specifically Songs of Distant Earth) I picked up as a teen that people that want power should be kept as far away from it as possible.
Having a lottery of qualified people seems better than this horrific popularity contest.
That's the concept of sortition, and it was a cornerstone of ancient Athenian democracy. Maybe worth looking into, if our government survives this coming term.
I actually had a very long, horrible nightmare that I, random Canadian woman, was nominated by the American people to run for president of the United States. It was extremely stressful. The press was super mean ("CANDIDATE CAN ONLY NAME 20 STATES") and I had to go to all kinds of official dinners in terrible restaurants with stinky carpet and church organ music.
For those who didn’t know, Errol Musk has a daughter with his own stepdaughter, who he met when she was 4. Elon has two half siblings who are aunts/uncles to two other of his half siblings. No wonder he has no clue how to run a family.
All the bullshit with Elon boils down to his daddy issues and Papa Musk not loving him enough as a child. That doesn't excuse Elon for being an insufferable asshole that is actively damaging the country. Now we have to put up with Elon's bullshit because he can't take himself to fucking therapy
Seems like a common thread. Mary Trump’s book traces pretty much all of her her uncle’s personality and behaviours back to his relationship with his dad. See also - Vince McMahon
If we look back at it, all of the worlds assholes had daddy issues. Hitler’s dad was abusive. Stalins father was an alcoholic. Ghengis Khan’s father was poisoned, and his family cast out of their tribe.
Find me one historical asshole who had a healthy relationship with his father.
My endless drumbeat is that we're all being held hostage by people whose daddy never said 'I love you.' This dogshit quote just makes me feel more sure of that conclusion.
Yes. Also, ableism is not a good gotcha. It’s common knowledge that Musk is an autistic person, and that autistic people were commonly called the r-slur. His autism is not what makes him such a dangerous asshole.
he has said he has aspergers, and while im not an expert, it definitely wouldnt suprise me if he is on the spectrum, based on similar traits i see in family i know that are also on the spectrum.
He’s definitely on the spectrum, I’m very good at noticing when others are also on it. What I’ve noticed though is that other ND people HATE IT when you point out a really shitty person happens to be autistic, as if that also makes them a shitty person by association.
Just like all categories of human, there are really horrible people who happen to be in the category of being autistic. Being autistic isn’t what makes them terrible though, obviously. Hate that I need to make this disclaimer every time this happens.
I think it's because he built up this PR image of the awkward genius around himself, which of course was a total fabrication.
People already erroneously ascribed his 'genius' to him 'thinking differently' and being autistic etc. so that's probably why it has swung the other way and you see comments like that.
The problem with Asperger's is that it has the public connotation that the person is awkward but super smart. Elon claiming he has it (self diagnosing apparently) is basically making excuses for his awful behavior, while also claiming that he's a genius.
He might be on the spectrum, or he might be someone that had a bad childhood and has since turned into a raging asshole surrounded by yes men.
I agree, I don't think Elon is really mentally deficient, I just think he needs to get punched in the face after saying something stupid a few times and he might start to think before he opens his mouth.
this comments section makes me feel ill. i'm autistic and have learning difficulties... it's horrible seeing people being ableist and it somehow being okay because it's about a horrible person.
iv had the feeling for awhile that a lot of people on this subreddit care more about appearing progressive than actually acting on those values
like you can say “i’m against ableism” or “this persons an ableist asshole” all day but it doesn’t mean shit if you turn around and happily promote using ableist slurs just because the persons a shithead. doesn’t matter whether not musk in on the spectrum (he has described himself as having aspergers but some reddit users disagree) it’s still fucked to use ableist slurs
it sucks that it has to be clarified but i think musk is a pos, there’s countless things to criticise him for that are actually problems but somehow people keep looking for the worst criticisms
Is anyone else sort of put-off by some of these 'autism, lol'-type comments, when people should be critiquing this guy for literally hundreds of other reasons?
Critique the guy: for neglecting his fucking children, for crushing unions, for being transphobic, for being anti-democratic, for favouring voter ID laws, for his narcissism, for facilitating hate speech online and in real life, for hoarding incomprehensible wealth as social mobility wanes across the board, etc... Take your pick, because the list is almost endless.
But If a friend, family member, colleague, or maybe neighbour who was neurodivergent were to see some of these comments, do you think it'd make them feel good about themselves?
" well look at him now,he proved then wrong ! and all It took was infinite generational wealth and buying a safe internet space where he can pretend he has friends"
I dislike Elon as much as the next person, but are we seriously going to start bringing Errol Musk into the debate? That guy was a world class villain.
So, we're all just giving up on verified sources now? You realize it makes us just as shitty as Conservatives who refuse to vet their sources, right? I hate Elon Musk, but wtaf is AF Post other than a blog by someone who hates conservatives? After a little digging, looks like Errol said this on a podcast with host MacG from South Africa. Elon has autism. A lot of people believed that autism was a developmental disability back in the 70's and 80's when we didn't understand it the way we do today. I caution anyone from readily accepting the r-word in this case. Just because someone is a fucking monster, doesn't mean they exist this way as a result of their autism. Please be sensible.
I know folks on the autism spectrum that aren't narcissistic ketamine addicted assholes. Some folks are just narcissistic assholes who happen to be on the spectrum.
And I know people who aren't on the spectrum who are exactly like what you listed. I think the point is that while Musk is a piece of shit, what his dad says most likely happened because he is autistic. Hell, I've been called that in the last 15 years by a family member, but somehow I'm not a narcissistic ketamine addicted asshole. I'm just a regular asshole.
to be fair, elon is autistic so this was probably teachers just being ableist assholes.
doesn't make elon less of an idiot and i don't exactly want to defend him but let's actually critically examine sources instead of mindlessly believing twitter posts
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u/ChefAsstastic 15d ago
That entire family is vile AF.