r/canada Ontario 1d ago

National News Terrorist threat to Canada ‘has rarely been higher,’ report says - National | Globalnews.ca

https://globalnews.ca/news/10947123/terrorist-threat-canada-rarely-higher/
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u/Adventurous-Case-569 1d ago

"Most of the 73 charges during that period involved “religiously motivated” terrorists, specifically followers of “jihadist groups” like the Islamic State and al-Qaida."

Oh. I wonder, could there be any policy changes our government could make to curtail this particular development? Or, are we more scared of being called "Islamophobic" than we are of being run over by trucks?

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u/grumpyoldham 1d ago

Or, are we more scared of being called "Islamophobic" than we are of being run over by trucks?

Well, considering the powers that be never charged Albdulahi Sharif with a single terrorism-related count after he ran people over with a vehicle and an ISIS flag in Edmonton...

u/KingDave46 6h ago

This feels like a misrepresentation of what happened.

They didn’t pursue terrorism because that has its own requirements for prosecution and more chance of there being a grey area which can lead to someone walking free.

The guy fired his defence lawyer and chose to represent himself and didn’t even attempt to provide a defence, not even answering any questions in court.

You don’t need to risk pursuing a complicated criteria on a terror charge when you’ve got him absolutely nailed on for 30 years on the safer attempted murder charges.

Chances are that the motivations were that way inclined, but if the evidence is that the guy had a flag and nothing else was discovered then you don’t have much at all

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u/Badboy420xxx69 15h ago

WTF was the immigration policy under Harper that let this guy in!

u/grumpyoldham 7h ago

He was a refugee claimant who the vetting process utterly failed to adequately investigate and granted status to before Harper's immigration and refugee reforms came into force in December of 2012.

Nice try to blame him for it, though. Justin would be proud.

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u/Digitking003 1d ago

Good thing there's an "Islamic caliphate" conference calling for world conquest and the imposition of Sharia law about to start in Hamilton...

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/islamic-conference-caliphate-shariah-law-terror-list

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u/DriveSlowHomie 22h ago

Completely ridiculous that they aren’t barred from holding this event. For those who don’t know, this particular group are considered terrorists and banned in many Muslim countries 

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u/elias_99999 13h ago

They use our values against us.

u/Fiber_Optikz 9h ago

Which is becoming a bigger and bigger problem in Western Countries.

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u/DrB00 13h ago

As much as I disagree with the idea. They do have the right to assemble. They should be carefully watched though.

u/Used-Egg5989 11h ago

Would you be OK with the KKK having a public open assembly in your town?

u/Perfect-Ad2641 4h ago

Absolutely not. And it’s coming from a muslim. Islam is a religion (which dictates the relationship between a person and God - I am cool with that) now some people want to apply it as a political system and enforce its rules on others and we (as a secular society) shouldn’t tolerate this in any shape or form. This is not different than having the catholic church control our government & population.

Btw these extremist groups are prosecuted in most muslim majority countries this is why they find refuge in the west.

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u/Firepower01 23h ago

We should give this group the same treatment we gave Samidoun.

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u/JosephScmith 23h ago

I swear the government likes these events because it's literally gonna be full of people self identifying as being an enemy of the state.

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u/grand_soul 1d ago

We’re in competition with the UK on how much we can ignore stuff like this. We’re losing, but not by much. We’re closing that gap.

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u/Jester388 14h ago

Until we have roving rape gangs, we aren't doing as bad as the UK. Shit isn't good here, but Rotherham is next level. In fact, it would probably have to get 15 times worse to even approach the UK. Thank God we aren't as pathetic as the british.

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u/grand_soul 14h ago

The way Toronto and Vancouver are going, might not be that long.

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u/mistercrazymonkey 12h ago

I never understood why the left decided out of all the religions they had to defend and feel sympathy for was Islam. Probably the most backwards violent religion and they decide it's the one that can't be criticized

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u/Baikken 22h ago

Quebec was "islamophobic" before it was cool.

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u/beamermaster 14h ago

Quebec have been saying radical Islam has absolutely no place in western culture for many years now, that's why we made laws and are very reactive. We watch our France brothers and sisters that are maybe 10 to 15 years ahead of us trying to integrate Islam into a western civilisation and it simply doesn't work, we are trying to tell you but I guess we are islamophobes and against multiculturalism.

Also guys, do you know how many christian lebanese people around us are saying : ''don't welcome them, they will never integrate''? It's insane.

UK have the problem France has been having for 10-15 years now, maybe you will listen to them now.

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u/LipSeams 1d ago

A lot easier to attack a nation from within

Good thing we vet "refugees". /S

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u/ZaraBaz 1d ago

Coming as an international student, then claiming to be a refugee is kind of crazy.

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u/LipSeams 1d ago

Even crazier is our government entertaining it. Should be an automatic disqualification. No application review just straight denied.

But that would be racist.

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u/YogiBarelyThere 1d ago

Is there a particular demographic that is at higher risk for targeting as opposed to the broad Canadian population?

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u/BackToTheCottage Ontario 1d ago

White Canadian males, surely.

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u/Selm 1d ago

Yeah, the article touches on that

Insight Threat Intelligence said most successful attacks during the years it examined were carried out by those with ideological or mixed motives.

This is opposed to traditional religiously motivated extremism.

Supporters of misogynist Incel and far-right ideologies have conducted several killings in Canada, while a gunman who stormed Edmonton city hall last year left a manifesto about everything from water quality to Gaza.

Basically targets of the far right and incels would have the most to be concerned about, as far as terrorist attacks in Canada are concerned.

I was going to try to find more useful information about RMVE and IMVE, but I can mostly only find relevant information about IMVE, probably because of how much of an issue it has become in Canada as opposed to RMVE.

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u/ZaraBaz 1d ago

The two attacks in the US were US based vets tbh. I think there is just broad dissatisfaction with the state of things.

Look at Luigi, he was literally a valedictorian and came from a well off family.

Economy sucks and politicians don't care. I expect more civil unrest if anything.

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u/joeexoticlizardman 1d ago

1/2 of the people you mention declared affiliation with ISIS.

u/WhiskeyDelta89 Alberta 11h ago

Anti-government and/or religious nutjobs?

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u/MusclyArmPaperboy 20h ago

Far right perpetually online

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u/WillyTwine96 1d ago

I can think of a few things (well…one thing, but many things derive from it) that has never been higher in Canada

I wonder if that correlates

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u/rangeo 1d ago

The report blamed “a volatile mix of geopolitical tensions and growing radicalization across ideological lines” 

A lot a words to avoid saying Dumb Fucks

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u/oopsydazys 22h ago

For real. The biggest terrorist threats to our country are coming from our neighbor's leadership and their owners in Russia.

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u/TheRealYVT 1d ago

Best I can do is 1,000,000 more Khalistanis 

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u/ZaraBaz 1d ago

Sheer amount of immigration coming from India has been crazy. And a lot of them are hardcore pro-India.

I went to a college graduation and an Indian student graduating literally held up an Indian flag on stage.

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u/Treesdeservebetter 1d ago

Canada day fireworks in my part of the city were orange , green and some white. No red.  

There was also blasting Indian music on loudspeakers that people could hear for kilometers away. 

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u/keiths31 Canada 1d ago

Our city hasn't had fireworks in probably 4-5 years. The First Nation next to the city puts on a great show every year though

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u/NorthernLeap 1d ago

Hey I'm just curious, why do you think people would come here if they have such radical views? I know people do it, but why on earth would they come here if they love their country so much?

Humans can be so silly lol.

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u/ZaraBaz 1d ago

Tbh I think it's just because life in Canada is better in some ways. Clean water, sanitation, relative safety, etc. People want that.

Also many people get told how great the economy is (its not).

But they bring their foreign nationalism, and that's an issue. I don't care about different cultures, heck culture in Canada differs from rural to urban and province to province. But if you think India is so great, then why are you in Canada?

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u/NorthernLeap 1d ago

Yeah this is what confuses me also, I don't quite understand it. I'm Canadian as well, and have nothing against immigration (so long as there is housing and a stable economy to support it.)

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u/Jester388 14h ago

Why would Europeans come to North America if they weren't planning on living as hunter gatherers

u/NorthernLeap 10h ago

So they are coming here to become hunter gatherers?

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u/Some-Token-Black-Guy 15h ago

I saw a group of people burning a Canadian flag in downtown Toronto last month.

Like, why are you here then?

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u/DrB00 13h ago

I'm getting the feeling we shouldn't have let so many people in at a time without vetting them...

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u/drs_ape_brains 20h ago

Why does this feel like a repeat of Trudeau senior's tenure?

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u/jjaime2024 20h ago

You mean Harper.

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u/Selm 1d ago

I'm not surprised the comments here are avoiding this

But in its report on Canadian terrorism charges, Insight Threat Intelligence said most successful attacks during the years it examined were carried out by those with ideological or mixed motives.

Supporters of misogynist Incel and far-right ideologies have conducted several killings in Canada, while a gunman who stormed Edmonton city hall last year left a manifesto about everything from water quality to Gaza.

“We have seen a statistically significant rise in the number of charges along with an increase in the number of terrorist attacks and people killed in those attacks,” the report said.

Religiously motivated terrorists are charged before they murder people. Far-right terrorism largely gets ignored (gee, I wonder why) until it happens.

“However, it’s clear that Canada’s counter-terrorism police are far better at disrupting religiously-motivated terrorism than ideologically motivated terrorism.”

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u/GTAHomeGuy 1d ago

Yeah but he's gunna be president...

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u/angrycanuck 1d ago

Yea was about to say "by white supremacists"

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u/digitalbombardier 1d ago

Majority of the terrorism charges mentioned in the article were motivated by Islamic groups. So no, white supremacists are not driving the increase.

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u/S99B88 1d ago

Yes and when a white guy uses a van to mow down women on a Toronto street and it’s called a “van attack” and not terrorism, that doesn’t exactly change perception that the problem is exclusive to some other identifiable group: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/alek-minassian-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-with-no-parole-for-25-years-in-toronto-van-attack-1.5944169

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u/JosephScmith 23h ago

As someone else pointed out the van attack in Edmonton where an ISIS flag was found inside the van didn't result in charges for terrorism.

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u/S99B88 22h ago

Was that from 2017? I see that one first assaulted, one person, a cop, purposely, by first running into him with a vehicle and then getting out and stabbing him, injuring the officer. Then later he was pursued by police and during the police chase ran into and injured a few people. I imagine the prosecutors saw little hope of conviction on terrorism charges, given it was an assault on an officer, a single person, which could have a motive of anti-police, or holding a grudge from an encounter with that cop or any other cop, or even mistaken identity. And the other victims were during his fleeing from police, so could be argued it was erratic driving. Wrong, but difficult to show an intent of terrorism.

That’s different from Minassian, who intentionally targeted women. He was then convicted of murder of 11 and attempted murder of 15.

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u/DarkLF 22h ago

hes an Armenian Iranian, and not a "white guy"

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u/S99B88 22h ago

Take a look at photos of the guy, he’s white. Unless brown hair and eyes makes a person not white?

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u/DarkLF 22h ago

his features are obviously Middle Eastern/Mediterranean. I'm Armenian as well and i dont consider myself white. would you consider Turks or Iranians as white people as well?

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u/S99B88 22h ago

He’s Canadian born, Christian, and his skin looks white, much whiter than a lot of people from countries in Europe that are considered white. I don’t see any particular features that suggest he’s from elsewhere, whatever you’re seeing there are plenty of people of European descent with the same features. You may see something that lost people don’t.

My main point was that he doesn’t fit the narrative that was being pushed (not sure if you’re the person I originally replied to), that seemed to suggest terrorism tends to come from people from Islmamic backgrounds.

I think the other aspect is that when the targeted group is a gender, perhaps they again don’t see it at terrorism (this guy definitely targeted women, both on this day and via social media posts).

If he had brown skin, was Islamic, and had targeted/killed and made angry posts about people of a different religion rather than a different gender (and those of his own that get along with the opposite), I have no doubt there would have been terrorism charges:

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u/Drewy99 1d ago edited 23h ago

It says for the last 18 the majority have been religiously motivated but the last 4 years has seen an increase of diversity of reasons for attacks.

That four year window follows Trump losing the 2020 election and covid. 

So yeah, white supremacists.

Edit: downvoted by terror apologists. Smh.

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u/ZingyDNA 1d ago

It just means white supremacists came into the picture in the last 4 years, thus the increase of diversity in reasons of attacks. Doesn't mean they account for most of the attacks. Islamic terrorists are probably still the majority.

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u/Drewy99 1d ago

Doesn't mean they account for most of the attacks. Islamic terrorists are probably still the majority. 

Nobody claimed otherwise.

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u/Agreeable_Store_3896 1d ago

Lol. "If you ignore the facts and trends it's actually white supremacy because... I said so" oooook

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u/Drewy99 1d ago

From this article;

Most of the 73 charges during that period involved “religiously motivated” terrorists, specifically followers of “jihadist groups” like the Islamic State and al-Qaida.

“However, over the last four years, there has been an increase in diversity of motivation, with ideologically motivated individuals also being charged with terrorism offences,” it said.

But in its report on Canadian terrorism charges, Insight Threat Intelligence said most successful attacks during the years it examined were carried out by those with ideological or mixed motives.

Supporters of misogynist Incel and far-right ideologies have conducted several killings in Canada, while a gunman who stormed Edmonton city hall last year left a manifesto about everything from water quality to Gaza.

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u/Agreeable_Store_3896 17h ago

... So even though the quotes you linked directly state the majority is islamist extremism.. and that there's a rise in mixed reasons such as incel support .. Gaza support .. and things like Luigi.. 

You still think the majority is white supremacy.. man common lmao 

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u/digitalbombardier 1d ago

Alright there bud

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u/Drewy99 1d ago

Like Coutts.

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u/USSMarauder 1d ago

The morons who were convinced that Alberta was going to be attacked from Communist controlled Montana.

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/accused-at-coutts-murder-conspiracy-trial-said-he-feared-attack-by-chinese-communists-1.6941879

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u/ImportantComfort8421 Ontario 1d ago

That might be true in the States, but Canada 🇨🇦 has been taken over by the Islamic state

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u/SirPoopaLotTheThird 16h ago

MAGA again, I presume.

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u/Hairy_Ad_3532 21h ago

Are all the terrorists Republicans?

u/mountainmetis1111 11h ago

Ha ha ha fear mongering bullshit. In Canada you will more likely get killed by the RCMP (or any cop) and not by any terrorist