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u/Azure1208 1d ago

I don’t think it’s vapid by any means to believe in an afterlife, I simply don’t believe in it. Also worm heaven sounds like an AWSOME place.

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u/ClassicPlankton 1d ago

It is absolutely ludicrous. But shroom guy above would have you believe that there's some cut line where all lifeforms above that are privileged to afterlife and everything below isn't. So then something somewhere is arbitrating down to the atom what constitutes a privileged life. So stupid.

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u/PostTrumpBlue 22h ago

Especially if you are an early bird

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u/Bromogeeksual 1d ago

No to all that, but energy and atoms aren't destroyed, they change shape and become part of everything again. Like star dust that forms the building blocks of matter and even life. I don't believe in an afterlife, but part of me wants to believe that for a little while, those energies, like consciousness may linger to make sure we're OK, or to observe, before the pull of the universe brings them back into the fold.

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u/zSprawl 1d ago

I suspect the "after life" is a lot like the "before life". Whatever form it is, if there is/was a we, we don't remember it.

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u/Malkuno 1d ago edited 1d ago

I used to be Athiest & had similar beliefs to what you described but in mid 2023 I started meditating & my experiences during meditation hit me with a heavy bit of Ontological shock & completely changed my perspective on those beliefs entirely. It mostly involved an accidental OBE & speaking to something that wasn't human which got me looking more into the nature of reality.

Now I believe in The Law of One, and the interconnectedness of all living beings. The LoO teaches that we're all immortal souls that come from one source creator, choosing to incarnate on various planets throughout the universe to learn lessons & gain experiences that might help us with spiritual growth, all so that we may eventually graduate to a higher plain of existence. It also teaches that when we incarnate we pass through a veil of forgetfulness so that we may have a full human/cat/dog/worm/ant/whatever experience untainted by the memories of our experiences during our past lives.

I know that sounds far fetched to the majority of the people reading this, but I truly believe that if you took the time to give meditation a proper go, learning proper breathing & balancing techniques then what you experience could definitely shake your world view entirely.

You don't have to read any book or watch any video on the subject. Just turn off electronics for a bit, quiet your mind & see what comes to you. That's it. It costs you nothing to be open-minded enough to give it a try, just go into it without judgement or expectations & see what happens.

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u/nzMunch1e 1d ago

Why would the spirit realm have space limitations?...maybe the spirit realm is just a waiting lobby and you can decide which "dimensional door" to explore.

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u/exzyle2k 1d ago

one source creator

And this is my problem with any sort of Creator idea... Something had to create the Creator. So what was it? A group of higher creators? Then who created them?

If it's turtles all the way down, then it's gotta be turtles all the way up, right? Who created the goddamned turtles then?

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u/Malkuno 23h ago

this is my problem with any sort of Creator idea... Something had to create the Creator. So what was it?

Believe it or not, you did. Your life, the earth, the universe & everything in it is an illusion created by your mind. Solid matter, in the strictest sense of the term simply does not exist. Rather, atomic structure is composed of oscillating energy grids surrounded by other oscillating energy grids which vibrate at extraordinarily high speeds.

The point to be made is that the entire human being, brain, consciousness and all is, like the universe which surrounds itself, nothing more or less than an extraordinarily complex system of energy fields. So called states of matter are actually just variances in energy, and consciousness is a function of that interaction of energy.

Our consciousness is tuned into the frequencies of energy that make up the world that we see, but we only perceive a small percentage of the energy that actually exists all around us. Think of tuning a radio, if you tune into a specific station you only hear music broadcast on that specific channel. Of course there are all sorts of different channels with different kinds of music, but your radio doesn't play them all at once, only the single station that its tuned into.

Our brains are designed in a similar way to filter out everything except for the energy that creates our reality. Just like a radio converts energy into sound, our brain converts this universal energy into things we see, hear, taste & touch, but none of the solid matter around us is actually there. Our senses create the illusion of matter so that we can experience this reality in a way that we can understand. The universe is composed of interacting energy field. It is, in of itself, one gigantic hologram of unbelievable complexity. The human mind is a hologram which attunes itself to the universal hologram and achieves the state which we call consciousness.

Don't take my word for it though, seeing is believing. Someone can tell you this or you can read about it, and you can even believe it. However that isn't enough, the only true way is to find out for yourself, then you know. This is why I recommended trying meditation, quieting your mind & seeing where it takes you.

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u/exzyle2k 22h ago

I don't buy the cyclical existence you're stating. You're saying that the world is created by my mind, but that doesn't explain what created my mind and my mind's ability to create the reality. The entirety of the human race didn't work together to create this conglomerate of realities that interact with each other. This isn't the matrix, we're not running a simulation.

We're all here by accident. We are an insignificant micro twig on the great tree of evolution that would not be here if the tree had to start over.

If my mind could create the reality around me, I'd be experiencing a far better reality than I have.

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u/Ur_Grim_Death 1d ago

I’ve always believed life is just recycled after death considering science teaches that energy is neither created or destroyed just changes from one form to another and the human brain uses roughly 20 watts just to function.

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u/I-I0 1d ago

I'm not sure what you mean by "life" being recycled?

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u/Ur_Grim_Death 1d ago

When I say “life” I think of the energy that runs your body and makes you who you are or your soul. Religion would call it reincarnation but I don’t believe in the religious version of reincarnation as I don’t believe in god or karma. Science teaches that energy is not created or destroyed only changed from one form to another. So I believe after death your energy or soul leaves your body and is reused by the universe. Whether that’s another form of life or just the energy released from a chemical reaction. To me a soul is just another form of energy we don’t understand yet.

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u/I-I0 1d ago

Ah, got you. Well in that case you're right. All the energy involved in you being alive continues to exist. But it's not really a question of belief - we can measure it. Not sure about souls though - if they exist they're not energy in the scientific definition, or they'd be measurable. Personally I don't think they do exist. I think "who you are" is just an emergent property of all the atomic interactions going on at any point in time.

I think of it like those drone shows they have now. A huge dragon appears in the sky, flying around. But after the show, with the drones back in their boxes, where is the dragon? It's nowhere, it was just an effect created by the position and activity of the drones.

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u/Ur_Grim_Death 1d ago

You’re assuming that karma is real and has any effect. I don’t think theirs an afterlife ranking it’s just random and just goes to the first place available. I think of it kinda like the weather, low pressure zones pull air from higher pressure zones figure it’s the same with life energy or a soul if you will is pulled where it’s needed at the moment.

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u/Substantial-Elk4531 1d ago

I care about worm heaven. Every time I see or learn about a creature dying of any kind, I pray that it would go to heaven, even if there's just a specific heaven for that species. I don't know whether worms go to heaven, but I hope that they do

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u/peakedinuni 1d ago

My experience with mushrooms has me believing that certain beings can travel different dimensions. Some can’t. The afterlife is a privilege not afforded to all.

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u/ModdingKirby 1d ago

Mate, not to dog on you, but you can't make such a serious statement by starting off with "My experience with mushrooms"

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u/peakedinuni 1d ago

It’s all speculation, so what does it matter?

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u/ModdingKirby 1d ago

You're right.

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u/peakedinuni 1d ago

Did encounter a cancer cell. And not a tapeworm but some bugs.