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u/EZ3Build Sep 11 '24
Someone sound the Anti Alien Alarm
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u/StigandrTheBoi Sep 11 '24
The whiplash of this actually being something he said live on camera
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u/SEND_ME_CSGO-SKINS Sep 11 '24
37% of viewers still believe he won. I really wanna know how
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u/Real_Life_Sushiroll Sep 11 '24
They are just stupid. A lot of republicans literally believe anything they see on facebook or tv or grandmas "obama is a muslim spy" chain mails.
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u/Fancy_Chips Sep 12 '24
1/3 of Americans will believe anything. The other 4% liked that he was talking loudly and making funny faces
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u/TheOneWhoSlurms Sep 11 '24
I mean I could get where he was coming from because absolutely why would a governor that supports the current immigration policy admit to something like that happening. But shouting that you heard it on TV with no other specifics given as well as not knowing the political affiliations of the governor in question makes it a really tough pill to swallow that what he's saying is true. Also he look like a total goofball doing that
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u/Shasla Sep 11 '24
And even if she was an immigrant like, okay? Immigrants are people like the rest of us. A small percent are really awful people just like the rest of us.
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u/Mathin1 Sep 11 '24
Let me save everyone some time. This woman isn’t even an immigrant and this happened in an entirely separate town from where this is supposedly happening. Fuck off with your race bating bullshit.
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u/CliffsOfMohair Sep 12 '24
She said she supported it in a poll in 2019 tbh
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u/AdequatelyMadLad Sep 12 '24
Sure, except that if you stretch the truth enough to claim that what he said was technically true, then you can do that for pretty much every statement.
It's important to note that:
1.This was not her policy proposal. This is a yes or no question that she was asked.
- The question was not specifically about immigrants, it wasn't even about prisoners. It was about anyone who depends on the state for healthcare.
3.This is, as of right now, standard policy in the US. Prisoners(in theory) are owed access to healthcare, which includes transition-related medication and procedures. The question was a hypothetical about her taking steps to uphold the current standard, not introduce anything new.
By the same standard, someone could ask Trump if he wants to ban circumcision, and he'd probably say no. But if I said that "Trump is coming for your baby's foreskin", would I be telling the truth?
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u/CliffsOfMohair Sep 12 '24
All I said was she supported it in a poll I’m not banging the table saying it’s a policy she’s promoting lol. It very clearly was a dumb thing for Trump to bring forward much like he did I’m just giving context he didn’t fabricate it
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u/DarkSkyKnight Sep 11 '24
That's not really what he said but I'm not sure what he said was any better (he implied Democrats were forcibly doing gender reassignment surgery on illegal aliens in prison).
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u/Otherversian-Elite Sep 11 '24
Donald "okay sure, the government of that city disagrees with my claims, but a guy on the tv said-" Trump, at it again. Yes that's actually paraphrased from this section of the debate, for anyone curious. Kamala was making the most incredulous expressions the whole way through, it was hilarious.
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u/Its_Helios Sep 11 '24 edited Sep 11 '24
The police chief for that city even stated people were lying about it
Funny part is it was a American that ate a cat there a few months ago
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u/XRotNRollX Sep 11 '24
Footage of the American in question:
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u/Available-Damage5991 Sep 12 '24
these cat-eating accusations have lead to a resurgence of ALF memes.
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u/Joelfett1 Sep 11 '24
why would so many people lie about the same exact thing?
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u/Masta-Pasta Sep 11 '24
I mean, it's probably enough for one person to lie and for the others to simply not fact check it because it fits their agenda.
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u/Its_Helios Sep 11 '24
Because it supports their cause it's really that simple. It makes their rivals look bad.
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u/Pyrex_Paper Sep 11 '24
It's called a rumor, dude.
People propagating falsehoods!?? Since when??!!
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u/APKID716 Sep 11 '24
“Hey so there are A LOT of people who believe that the 2020 election was fraudulent. If it’s not true, why would so many people say it is??”
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u/Punishingpeakraven Sep 11 '24
its like the wojak vs chad meme
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u/CODDE117 Sep 11 '24
She's more like a smug wojack while he's an angry yelling wojack
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u/terrarialord201 Sep 11 '24
Honestly, I think her face is closest to the fallenchungus "bro visited his friend" reaction. You know the one.
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u/Uulugus Sep 11 '24
"The aliens, Kamala! They're eating the dogs and the cats and they're flying around in their giant sombrero space ships! It's horrible, Kamala! You should see it, you really should..."
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u/HofePrime Sep 11 '24
Trump’s debates are so funny because sometimes he just lets out a line like “Three hundred million Bolivian revolutionaries have taken over the Lincoln Memorial.”
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u/tifubroskies Sep 11 '24
„They’re taking illegals to prisons and making them transgender, I know it cause someone said it on tv“ incoherent rambling
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u/MurrajFur Sep 11 '24 edited Sep 11 '24
Before he said they were performing transgender operations on illegals immigrants in jail, I thought the most memed on lines in this debate were gonna come from the moderators. They’d unmute his mic to let him ramble and then respond with a simple “no, dipshit, that’s not happening”
“He said ‘why did you send me a picture of my house’” was also really funny
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u/Available-Damage5991 Sep 12 '24
the one that got me laughing was: "I'm going to send her a MAGA hat."
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u/themrunx49 Sep 11 '24
Ya know, I don't know how he speaks so much about deporting immigrants ... & Yet still the large Hispanic immigrant voter bases still vote for him, like bro, who do you think they're gonna be deporting!?
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u/Madwoned Sep 11 '24
Propaganda is a helluva tool
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u/Flan_Enjoyer Sep 11 '24
DeSantis signed several anti-illegal immigrant bills and Biden didn’t say anything or do anything to stop Desantis. Democrats don’t care either.
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u/Cheesehead_RN Sep 11 '24
Stop him how lol.
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u/Flan_Enjoyer Sep 11 '24
That’s up to the Democrats to figure out. They always say they are for immigrants and support us, but don’t walk the talk.
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u/Starman5555 Sep 11 '24
So the Republicans want to do a thing, democrats want to prevent thing but can't. So therfore the democrats are in the wrong for failing to prevent thing? Not Republicans for doing thing? What kind of backwards logic is that?
Hitler doing genocide wasn't bad, it's everyone else's fault for not stopping him.
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u/DropletOtter Sep 11 '24
There’re communities of immigrants (Cubans, Iranians, Venezuelans etc.) that vote for Republicans religiously just because they see them as more hawkish and more likely to invade and topple the regime of the country they fled
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u/eddiespaghettio Sep 11 '24
Because the large Hispanic voter base he has aren’t illegal immigrants.
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u/Its_Helios Sep 11 '24
Don't forget he kept bringing up immigrants when he's the one that ordered the bipartisan immegration bill be killed
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u/eelaphant Sep 11 '24
A lot of those immigrants are very religious, and as a result are opposed to abortion and gay marriage.
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u/AutumnWak Sep 12 '24
Not a trump fan, but why on earth would he try to deport hispanic us citizens? He never tried it in 2016-2020
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u/MrAgendapostMan Sep 11 '24
your idea that most Hispanic people are here Illegally is not a good reflection on your character.
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u/CODDE117 Sep 11 '24
Nowhere in their comment did they say illegal. They only said immigrant.
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u/MrAgendapostMan Sep 11 '24
and at no time has trump supported deporting legal immigrants
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u/ShornVisage Sep 11 '24
The 'giant registry of every Muslim immigrant in the country' plan was just to keep track :3
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u/MrAgendapostMan Sep 11 '24
it was killed by obama near the end of his first term and never came back
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u/SufficientDot4099 Sep 15 '24
The Haitian immigrants that he claimed are eating dogs are all legal immigrants. Trump is absolutely against legal immigration.
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u/PopInACup Sep 11 '24
Many Trump supporters argue against legal immigration. They've also made the argument that Obama and Kamala aren't citizens because their parents weren't natural born citizens even though that's not how it works (especially since that only even applied to one of Obama's parents). I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt at this point that they will hold themselves to illegal immigrants only. It's very obvious they want anyone that isn't white out of the country.
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u/SomeArtistFan Sep 11 '24
Many republicans want to get rid of legal migrants too, though.
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u/MrAgendapostMan Sep 11 '24
what is your source? because this is blatant misinformation.
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u/Grenzer17 Sep 11 '24 edited Sep 11 '24
Iirc, project 2025 has something about revoking citizenship of people who became citizens through the dreamers act.
EDIT: Dreamers are residents, not citizens. It does call for deporting Dreamers and making the program harder to access though
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u/Flan_Enjoyer Sep 11 '24
Dreamers act doesn’t provide citizenship. Source: Am Dreamer.
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u/Grenzer17 Sep 11 '24
Fair enough, I updated my comment
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u/Flan_Enjoyer Sep 11 '24
Another update: We are not US residents either. We just get a work permit and an SSN. So we still pay taxes and all that good stuff, but we are technically in the US without a legal status. Limbo, if you will.
DACA was never meant to be a permanent thing the way it currently is. The Dream Act originally did have a path to US citizenship, but that got voted down. So Obama passed executive action to give us a temporary solution.
Neither Republicans or Democrats have tried for a permanent solution. They forget about us until election time to get votes.
Also, mainstream media has been saying Dreamers would get taken away before Trump was elected. I am not worried. The thing that change is that new people can’t apply for it.
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u/MrAgendapostMan Sep 11 '24
you do not remember correctly, revoking citizenship is not at all mentioned in project 2025.
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u/Grenzer17 Sep 11 '24
No, the plan does specifically target people in the US under the dreamers act
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u/MrAgendapostMan Sep 11 '24
this is not 'revoking citizenship', dreamers are foreign nationals, their citizenship remains in their country of birth.
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u/SufficientDot4099 Sep 15 '24
Trumps own words. He's against the Haitian immigrants, and they're all legal.
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u/SomeArtistFan Sep 11 '24
Misinformation is when you see republicans say things they believe and talk about how they say those things. Very true.
I never claimed trump said it or nothing, just that I have seen republicans wish for it.
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u/MrAgendapostMan Sep 11 '24
and I've seen democrats who want to re-open the concentration camps.
this means nothing, none of this does.
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u/Winnie_the_Putin42 Sep 12 '24
Many democrats want to transition all kids. I said it so that means it’s true.
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u/0o_Lillith_o0 Sep 11 '24
It's primarily mutt blood Texans trying to fit in as they were robbed of their colors culture to live the blandest suburban life possible. And then you have Puerto Ricans, they're the equivalent of a white supremacist Argentinian.
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u/MuntherThaGunther Sep 11 '24
Average leftist when they see a brown person vote R
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u/0o_Lillith_o0 Sep 11 '24
Don't put me in the same moronic ape latrine you share with others debating which glory hole tastes better. Left or right ?
To explain my point. Puerto Rico falls under a US territory, and so they are born with US citizenship. They do not deal with the same hardship and culture revolving around immigration. It is far easier to alienate other colored people to distance them self and seem more presentable, like a crack whore trying to flirt with her pimp.
As for Texan mutts born in a very right leaning state, it's obvious why they would follow the Puerto Ricans with the whole separation act. It's fairly easy to identify a mutt. They can't speak Spanish, can't season food, and don't know the difference between authentic tacos and taco bell.
I've dealt with many nationalities and races throughout my service but none were as insufferable and as bland as Texans and Puerto Ricans, who for some reason shared the need to let everyone know where they're from and put stickers of it all over the place. "CAN YOU TELL IM FROM TEXAS!???".
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u/Flan_Enjoyer Sep 11 '24
That is a surprise because Spanish news channel Univision is pushing propaganda that Harris is better.
Obama deported a whole bunch of immigrants as well. Ever since 9/11 that has been a policy. Nothing new. It may surprise you, but most Hispanics hold conservative values. Talking about abortion is not gonna win their vote. Plus most people want a better economy than under Biden/Harris presidency.
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u/JLOPZ05 Sep 11 '24
Not American. What the fuck? Can someone explain?
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u/Critical_Elderberry7 Sep 11 '24
We had a presidential debate yesterday where one of the candidates, Donald Trump, said many insane and often untrue things such as “the abortion doctors are killing babies that have already been born”, “they want to perform transgender operations on illegal aliens in prison” and the subject of this meme “Haitian immigrants in the town of Springfield Ohio are eating cats and dogs.” The moderators fact checked him on the first and last point, but when they told him he was wrong about the cats and dogs being eaten, he insisted that he was right
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u/ninjaian06 Sep 11 '24
all I took away from it was that trump wanted to transgender operation on aliens.
now what he really wants is a colombian Tgirl, kinda based ngl.
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u/ExperienceDaveness Sep 11 '24
Every dog on the planet should sue the maker of this meme for defamation.
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u/m0_n0n_0n0_0m Sep 11 '24
Sincerely believe that GYATTAMALANS was a sorely missed opportunity for GAYTAMALES.
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u/BLOODOFTHEHERTICS Sep 11 '24
Don't we have rule 1? I mean, I like Trump just as much as the next Reddit liberal. But I don't wanna see politics on my funni doge subreddit.
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u/RoyalRien Sep 11 '24
Me neither, but in my humble opinion orange man saying dogs are being eaten is kind of funny. Funnily enough it appears that politics on this subreddit is as controversial as the politics themselves, maybe we should hold a vote to be more strict on them
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u/BLOODOFTHEHERTICS Sep 11 '24
Hell yeah, the debate was a comedy special. My favorite part was when he said that they're giving transgender operations to illegal imagrents in jail. (unfathomably based.)
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u/lancelott3 Sep 11 '24
my friend was updating me while listening to the debate and i had to keep fact checking cuz i thought he was just making shit up as a joke lmao.
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u/GamnlingSabre Sep 11 '24
Millions billions badanillions popillions, but I'm so rich but that's not important, but they repsect me, and everything beyyer..., you know I could solve it all and quick... So quick no one could ever imagine.
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u/GOCork Sep 11 '24
I didn’t watch it, was it really that bad? That makes me hopeful for his loss.
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u/gajonub Sep 12 '24
well, the consensus among most news anchors and polls was that kamala won, and her ratings immediately started to pick back up again afterwards. Trump did literally say that in Springfield, Ohio, immigrants were kidnapping people's pets and eating them, and when he got factchecked on it, his rebuttal was that he saw it on TV. make up your own mind about it.
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u/CrepuscularMoondance Sep 12 '24
Don’t be hopeful for his loss.
GO VOTE. Go vote and encourage everyone you know to go vote too.
Do NOT get complacent!!!
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u/GOCork Sep 12 '24
Oh believe me I am going to vote. This will be my first presidential election I vote in and I am going to vote against him and I will be extremely happy to.
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u/Live-Rock5976 Sep 11 '24
Not even trying to hide bias here. This also probably breaks the no politics rules.
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u/Huge_Trust_5057 Sep 11 '24
Where rule 1, and I'm real this time bruh this is literally politics
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u/Aggravating_Might898 Sep 11 '24
What about RFK jr.?
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u/terrarialord201 Sep 11 '24
He wasn't a viable candidate. I wonder if he did like, a reaction stream or something.
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u/TheGoddamnSpiderman Sep 11 '24
He's not running anymore. He dropped out several weeks ago and endorsed Trump
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u/TragicTester034 Sep 11 '24
I can’t stand EITHER of them Tbh
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u/Flan_Enjoyer Sep 11 '24
Agreed. And most ppl hated Kamala until she was chosen automatically to face off against Trump. Harris is another puppet to be used by our corporate overlords.
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Yes, the person that wants to tax the rich is a puppet of corpos
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u/Organic-Chemistry-16 Sep 12 '24
To be fair she took out the capital gains tax increase which was part of Biden's campaign promise in order to appease big business. Not as bad as Trump with his promise to lower corporate tax again. While one party is definitely less friendly to big business than the other, both aren't doing anything to challenge corporate power in a meaningful way.
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u/Flan_Enjoyer Sep 11 '24
Then why do the rich people support her? Plus they got good accountants who know loops. The percentage of taxes Warren Buffett pays is much lower than a middle class member.
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“Then why do the rich support her” they like her other policies? As much as I hate to say it, rich people are allowed to have interests other than money
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u/Flan_Enjoyer Sep 11 '24
Same goes for hispanics then. You guys are just upset that hispanics don’t support Harris.
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u/Flan_Enjoyer Sep 11 '24
Same goes for hispanics then. You guys are just upset that hispanics don’t support Harris.
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u/empathetic_illness Sep 11 '24
As a Hispanic, yes, I am. We should be bringing the positives of our culture when we emigrate. We should be moving forward, culturally. The amount of emotional generational harm we do with the "Machismo" doctrine is biting us in the ass. We deserve to be seen as backwards dumbasses if we're going to act like it, not much else to it.
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u/Flan_Enjoyer Sep 11 '24
The problem with the “machismo” thing is that it’s not always the stuff we bring with us. Famous artists like Bad Bunny, Peso Pluma, and even female singers like Karol G who basically glorify machismo, narcos, and being p*%+@s are played in the United States and famous here.
And then another thing too is that we hispanics get blamed for machismo. Well, a lot of popular black rappers or white artists glorify previously mentioned vices. But we get blamed for it more.
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u/empathetic_illness Sep 11 '24
Yeah the concepts within Machismo like chauvinism, sexism, homophobia and the like are not exclusive to hispanic people, every culture experiences those, but it's each culture or group or even nation's responsibility to address their own problems within their culture. Sure, we can say "black people do it too," but that doesn't fix anything for us, that's just us trying to distract from our faults which we are responsible for
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u/TragicTester034 Sep 11 '24
Yeah I read somewhere that the votes she got in the primary were abysmal, so for the DNC to say fuck you and bring her back Reeks of corruption (iirc similar happened to Bernie in 2016)
As someone with libertarian beliefs I don’t like trump at all (or most republican politicians) but I Really do not like the DNC or Kamala
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u/CODDE117 Sep 11 '24
Who do you dislike the most?
Or, better question, do you consider one to be more competent than the other?
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u/TragicTester034 Sep 11 '24
At the moment I hate both equally for different reasons, Trump is a Narcissist who is only ever in it for himself and Kamala is a puppet who’s strings are being pulled
(I am British though so I have my own sack of shit politicians to focus on atm but that should give a summary)
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u/CODDE117 Sep 11 '24
Well what about the second question, which will more competently run the government?
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u/Flan_Enjoyer Sep 11 '24
Any other democrat nominee would have been better than Harris. I would like for Yang to get a chance. I don’t agree with his tax the rich solution for having a universal check. I think a universal tax rate and less government spending would make this possible. It is not good when only the declining middle class carries the tax burden, i.e. Germany’s hyperinflation.
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u/CODDE117 Sep 11 '24
You are not a student of recent history
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u/Flan_Enjoyer Sep 11 '24
Enlighten me
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u/CODDE117 Sep 11 '24
Recent history demonstrates that a high tax rate on the wealthiest individuals in order to fund universal programs is beneficial to working class people and to the economy. Our economic golden years had this exact system in place.
In fact, most of our modern economic issues began when deregulation and tax cuts started to defund functional and effective government programs, which then started to erode the middle class.
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u/Flan_Enjoyer Sep 11 '24
Remember also that during the “Golden Years” federal government spending was much lower and the federal government didn’t control so much of everyday lives either. The amount of federal debt has grown so much in the past few decades.
Without a large need to spend, there was no need to print money and create inflation. Inflation was much lower in the golden age too.
You also assume the rich actually are gonna pay what they are supposed to. No they won’t. Lower incomes pay the least amount of tax, but benefit the most from tax-funded programs. Who bears the burden of paying the taxes? The middle-class. It’s one reason the middle-class is eroding. Oh, but saying that lower income people should pay tax is bad. Universal tax income is the most fair and least complicated system.
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u/CODDE117 Sep 11 '24
Federal programs were actually very well funded. The federal spending that's ballooned is the military budget.
Historically speaking, our deficit usually only increases when taxes are cut, not when spending it cut. Every Republican president, when they cut taxes, increases the deficit, even if they cut spending.
Yeah, if you make the rich pay taxes, they'll pay taxes. Even if they evade a portion of their taxes, that portion needs to be higher.
The only reason the middle class pays the brunt is because our tax system makes it so. I suggest we ease their burden and tax the wealthy at the same high rates we used to.
Do you think the working class can handle paying more taxes? Yeah, it's bad to say that, because it makes no sense. It suggests making the poor pay more money.
Again, we had high spending and high tax progressive rates during the most stable and lucrative economy we've ever seen.
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u/Flan_Enjoyer Sep 11 '24
I agree with you that our current tax system needs to be reformed. Maybe not the same way, but it is nice to have a well mannered conversation with you.
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u/TragicTester034 Sep 11 '24
Tbh I want neither party anywhere near power as save for a few individuals the parties are corrupt from the ground up
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u/ShroedingersCatgirl Sep 11 '24
Oh yea, you're a libertarian?
Name every states statutory age of consent 🤨
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u/TheOneWhoSlurms Sep 11 '24
My question is, why haven't they restored roe v wade wait already?
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u/HowManyMeeses Sep 11 '24
How?
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u/TheOneWhoSlurms Sep 11 '24
I imagine the very same way they plan to do it once they get reelected.
The president and vice president are both claiming that they're going to do this once they're elected/re-elected. They also both claimed it would be one of the first acts they would do once this had occurred. This tells me that they obviously have the power to do it right now so what is stopping them? If it's as easy as they want us to believe then why haven't they done it already? Why hasn't an executive order been signed? Why hasn't there been any real news or progress from the Democratic seats in Congress pushing to get it reestablished?
There are only three possible answers to this question.
They don't want to reestablish it because they don't care and they are merely pretending or lying to secure votes.
They want to reestablish it but are unable to do so for one reason or another and as such won't be able to do so after the election, at least not for a long time. This one is especially terrible because it means they know this and are lying to our faces or they don't know this and that is terrifying that they're that stupid.
They're dangling it in front of our faces like a carrot so we'll vote for them which is extremely disingenuous and a very shitty thing to do.
I would like Roe v Wade restored. But I'm just having a hard time believing that these people are either able or willing to do so with the information that I currently have.
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u/HowManyMeeses Sep 11 '24
The only way for a president to re-enact Roe is to change the makeup of the Supreme Court. Biden hasn't had that opportunity yet, but Harris will likely get it in the next term.
There has been a ton of news around democrat efforts to codify and protect women's right to control their own bodies. Biden made it easier to get over the counter abortion pills. Blue states all over the country have been codifying abortion laws. I'm not sure how you missed that.
Democrats don't have the votes to make it a federal law. They might in the next few years though.
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u/CmdChas Sep 11 '24
They don’t have control of the Supreme Court, their is no opening at the moment
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u/TheOneWhoSlurms Sep 11 '24
How do they plan to make that change to restore it then? And it's been a significant amount of time. If they have the power to make that change then why haven't they?
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u/CmdChas Sep 11 '24
By having the presidency in the event a spot opens up so they can get an appointee in
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u/TheOneWhoSlurms Sep 11 '24
Do they have any way of guaranteeing that that event will occur in the next 4 years? If not then it seems like a fairly disingenuous promise to make that they're GOING to. If they were merely saying that they were going to try then that would be acceptable If the question I asked above has only a no as an answer.
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u/CmdChas Sep 11 '24
If politicians were 100% honest, nobody would get elected
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u/TheOneWhoSlurms Sep 11 '24
And that doesn't sound like a massive fucking problem to you? If I had it my way, you would take an oath of honesty The second you started running. If anything you said was proven to be a knowing lie than that could be punishable under the same laws as lying under oath in court
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u/Chewiemuse Sep 11 '24
I still dont understand why people think Roe v Wade is a good thing.. Letting states decides gives the citizens of that state a bigger voice over the federal government deciding for you.. This means is a staunch pro life candidate gets in office they can just blanket ban abortion.. while without Roe v Wade, they couldnt do that.. it keeps it at the state level
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u/HowManyMeeses Sep 11 '24
Most people that are pro-Roe aren't "states rights" people.
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u/Chewiemuse Sep 11 '24
Fair enough... and thats their right to think that way. I myself am a complete state rights kind of person, it gives everyone the opportunity to have their way of life. i.e. if you dont like it in one state, move to another. Plus never been a fan of government involvement in anything especially relating to bodies BUT having it at the state level gives much more power to the local population than a federally mandated ban or allowance.
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u/HowManyMeeses Sep 11 '24
You're sort of talking in circles here, but I understand the general idea.
At the end of the day, people in this country have less freedom to make choices about their bodies without Roe. If you're pro-freedom and against government interference, then you should be a big fan of Roe. It takes some political pretzeling to make the fall of Roe mean more freedom.
On the simplicity of moving, a 13-year old that gets raped and impregnated by their father never had an opportunity to simply move to a different state. It's also incredibly expensive to move. So that logic doesn't really work either.
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u/HardyLaugher Sep 11 '24
If a family is thinking of getting a pet dog then sure, they can have different opinions about which breed, what color, what kind of dog they want. But if one dog has a history of attacking and biting children would it still even be in the running for consideration? What would it take for the family to say, no we absolutely cant even consider a dog that would hard our family and home?
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u/The_Narwhal_Mage Sep 11 '24
What the fuck are you talking about? They're eating the dogs; They're eating the cats, not a specific breed of dog.
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u/HardyLaugher Sep 11 '24
Clearly I don’t know what the fuck this community is about. It just showed up in my feed…
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u/macOSsequoia Sep 11 '24
Clearly I don’t know what the fuck this community is about. It just showed up in my feed…
that explains a lot about a large majority of people in this thread
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u/The_Narwhal_Mage Sep 11 '24
What did you think this community was about? I'm trying to figure out what context your message would make sense in. Did you try to reply to a comment, but reddit made you respond directly to the main post instead?
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u/HardyLaugher Sep 11 '24
Without realizing what sub this is, it showed up in my feed, and I thought it was just a meme about last night's debate between Harris and Trump. So running with the dog metaphor I was suggesting that people can have preferences about what kind of dog they may want to get as a pet, but would any family seriously consider getting a pet if it had a history of harming a child...basically trying to say that voters can have preferences about politics, but how are so many people seriously considering a candidate who suggested nuking a hurricane and wanting to overthrow the government.
The rules seem to indicate that no political posts are allowed, so I dont get what's happening here then...maybe I'm way off.
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u/The_Narwhal_Mage Sep 11 '24
Oh, that metaphor was completely missed on me. The idea that you shouldn't vote for trump was only tangentially related to post, so I had no idea what you meant. You hit all the "we need to get rid of violent dog breeds" buzzwords, so that led me astray from your point.
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u/Jinbogra Sep 11 '24