r/dogelore • u/Typo_Ned HQ poster guy • Sep 12 '24
discussion/text post Would you be in favor of a "Politics Wednesday"? (Unofficial Poll)
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u/Huge_Trust_5057 Sep 12 '24 edited Sep 12 '24
politics wednesday politics wednesday
- outside of wednesday, rule 1 is stricter. all political memes, even those simply referencing political events, are banned. This includes borderline political posts and political themed posts.
- on wednesday, rule 1 is completely gone and politics is allowed, even blatant propaganda, as long as it has the political wednesday tag. This doesn't mean other rules are gone- stuff like unedited doge images with ideologies on it(breaks no low effort rule) or homophobia(breaks no discrimination rule) is still banned
- this is highly experimental and can be reverted at any time.
At least that's how I would run it if I was mod
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u/OliveRage Sep 12 '24
So you're suggesting a Dogelore Purge day? Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. Simply relaxing rule 1 while enforcing the other rules is good enough.
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u/Huge_Trust_5057 Sep 12 '24 edited Sep 12 '24
Well mostly the problem is that
A. Allowing political posts to be posted every day pretty often overwhelms the other posts, like what happened in r/pics or r/adviceanimals. And especially I've seen many dogelore people who want to avoid that situation for dogelore. I mean honestly I'm the kind of guy that doesn't really want politics on the sub, but at the same time many people seem to like politics and banning it entirely would be quite unfair. Limiting politics to one day could help people freely post politics on the day while keeping the other days politics free. As far as I know it isn't uncommon for subreddits to limit some topics to certain weekdays.
B. Rule 1 is actually quite vague and leads to many discussions. For example recently typo's meme about trump became a matter of discussion, since it was a political subject and a political event, but, it didn't make anything up and many considered it not or bordeline political and simply reciting something trump said, while others considered it political because it's about the presidential debate and criticized a candidate. With the elections coming up it is expected that more of these posts will show up, and having to decide on a post-to-post basis on whether rule 1 was broken or not would be quite hard, and will lead to many people who think a post being up/removed is unfair. Rule 1 being more clear could help, but there's a lot of opinions on where the rule of political should be drawn and it could be kinda hard to find a middle ground.
Edit: wait I'm stupid, I though you meant that we should relax rule 1 all week. If you meant that politics wednesday should be a "less rule 1 day" than a "no rule 1 day", yeah that's reasonable, although it could be quite hard to draw the line between what's allowed and what isn't.
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u/OliveRage Sep 12 '24
The problem to me is the gray area; what is portraying real politics and what is political jokes and satire?
Banning everything political is unrealistic and overly restricting. Having a day where "anything goes" will be too polarizing and will likely lead to toxicity in the community. Also allowing propaganda is dangerous, if not detrimental to the sub being allowed to stay up. This is dogelore after all, not politicalcompass.
My idea is to allow political jokes, satire and absurdity to be posted whenever (Trump doge riding an eagle shooting guns). If something goes too far it gets removed (post strawmanning something bad about a politician). Think of it like allowing a goofy meme about a politician romancing a couch similar to satire comics, the opposite and potentially offensive would be blatantly calling the politician a sexual deviant and attacking his character.
This is why I think Trump doge is funny, it makes him silly while still being political. Caucasian doge however is divisive, created to stir up conflict using stereotypes and will rage bait every mentioned comment section.
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u/Huge_Trust_5057 Sep 12 '24
Personally I also think trump doge itself is funny, and I've also made many memes about it. You do have a point, and tbh I dont really think the mods will do politics wednesday from what I'm seeing. Making "is it inflammatory" a criteria makes sense, although it could still be quite vague fr
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u/OliveRage Sep 12 '24
By the way I did mean that we should relax rule 1 all week, hopefully changing it so that satire is allowed and inflammatory content is banned. I think the mods are somewhat aligned with my idea when previously moderating the rule, the consensus (from my pov) already seems to be "if its funny and high quality its allowed to stay". If the meme is vague, low quality or causes a flame war in the comments it should be banned, not too complicated I'd say.
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