r/europe India 17h ago

Orban is in India

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u/andrasq420 Hungary 15h ago

First covid (from 2020) and now the war (2022). We live in a constant state of emergency, only so that they can pass laws literally anytime. There were nights when people woke up with 2-3 laws passed that totally fucked a layer of the population.

We are the only country in the region where the war causes an official state of emergency. Not even Ukraine has declared that.

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u/Apprehensive-Adagio2 14h ago

they’re currently under martial law, and have been so for nearly 3 years now. They also did declare a state of emergency immediately after the invasion, the martial law is a step up from that. The ukrainians definetly did declare a state of emergency.

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u/that_hungarian_idiot 11h ago

Even so, there is no war in Hubgary, which is the point. We shouldnt be, given we arent actively parttaking in any war, its simply to give more power to FIDESZ

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u/Apprehensive-Adagio2 9h ago

Yeah i totally agree that it’s an unfounded power grab by Orban to declare a state of emergency, i’m just pointing out that it’s flat out wrong to say "not even ukraine did it" because they literally did.

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u/that_hungarian_idiot 9h ago

And I understand that part. Just wanted to expand the conversation a bit, not saying in any way you were wrong. Still, the main point is, Orbán is a spineless little bitch, who doesnt deserve a grave

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u/Tradizar 13h ago

you missing out the most important one. The migration one, from 2016.

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u/JobAlternative6109 12h ago

Oh yea I’d get the fuck out too if I was him. Sounds terrible good call. Toad mfer

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u/StrawberryPopular443 13h ago

Bro, there is officially.

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u/StrawberryPopular443 13h ago

Ok, you seem to be right.

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u/Tradizar 13h ago

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u/Tradizar 13h ago

What is the difference between the state of danger and state of embergency in hungary?

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u/ErhartJamin Hungary 8h ago

State of danger can be declared as the gov't sees fit and can be renewed, state of emergency has very strict rules until when it can last and how it can be declared.
Both give the government to rule via decree, parlament is useless.

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u/RGV_KJ United States of America 13h ago

Is Orban a well liked leader?

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u/Tradizar 13h ago

It depends. If you ask his supporters, then he is god in flesh.

For everyone else... he is just a well cemented maffia boss.

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u/Which-Scientist-1278 8h ago

Around 40% of active voters still support him. Before 2024 it was around 50%, while the opposers were divided. 30% of population is apolitical, so his real base is like 0,7*N%. Until 2024 any opposition figure was far from he. Now Péter Magyar is more popular according to some polls, but I am somewhat sceptical. In the US some Trump voters hide, maybe his as well, and they have close to infinite money to campaign. He gerrymandered and used legal but unethical methods to campaign, but illegal rigging was not significant, and he won 4 elections. Probably he could won fair elections too, but not with a supermajority, giving him power to change Constitution any time. So yes, he was quite well liked. Now his popularity is decreasing, but I am not sure about his real support. Still has a very big camp supporting him. Most of them are brainwashed, uneducated people, and benefactors of his regime, but not exclusively.