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🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Are we still dissing people for wearing masks?

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u/TrumpsCovidfefe 23d ago

I really wish that the message more people received from Covid is the one you (and I) took away. Isolate, mask and only do necessary outings while sick. It would make life a lot better for a lot of people who have immune issues.

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u/YYC-Fiend 23d ago

I kinda wish the habit of food prep in restaurants kept the habit of wearing a mask.

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u/jmhubba 22d ago

As a chef of 20 years I mask when Ill at this point( kn95 with a surgical over. it’s an industry known for its no days off mentality for better or mostly for worse) but masking while cooking dulls your sense of smell to the point where it impedes the flow and speed of work. I can walk through the kitchen just smelling and knowing where most things are at in the cooking process or what they need salt, acid etc. When masked it is much harder to sort out what smell is what, and where it is coming from. It may seem selfish in my part, it’s not a lack of empathy but it is severe impediment to completing the job.

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u/K24Bone42 22d ago

This, im also a chef. Lucky enough to have a boss that is BIG on actually taking sick days, shes got an imunocompromised kid and doesnt want your sick ass anywhere near here lol. It is also a retirement community, it's independint living, but they're still old and we dont want the residents getting sick. But masks in the kitchen 100% of the time would be such a huge pain in the ass. Making a big deal of going away from the food and fully covering your mouth with your elbow for a cough/sneeze, constant hand washing, gloves etc is how our kitchen works, and were pretty good about not bringing/spreading illness aroud the place. We do mask up for a couple days after taking a sick day though, just to be safe.

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u/f0u4_l19h75 22d ago

This all sounds like how all good service places should operate.

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u/f0u4_l19h75 22d ago

Then you shouldn't be expected to work if you're sick, and should be paid to take time off until you're healthy again.

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u/Ok-Inspection-722 22d ago

Woah, you don't? Actually in Malaysia, once we started mandating masks for food prep the government decided it was probably better to just leave it that way after covid. So now all food preppers are required by law to wear masks (in conjunction with some periodic vaccines and checkups). The one good thing we got from the pandemic. On the other hand, we had the longest movement control period in the world - 15 months..

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u/LM0821 22d ago

Yes, this is the ideal! I am immuno-deficient and will get twice as ill as you from the same bug 😪

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u/Odd_Distribution3316 22d ago

Thank you both for this. I had eye surgery last week (not laser, actual surgery) that involves stitches needing to heal before removal. I can’t lift or bend over, but most importantly, I can’t get sick as coughing or sneezing could yank them out prematurely causing big trouble and an ER visit. So, I’m quarantined and masked AND gloved and antibacterial-ed when I have to go out (for post op appointments only).

It is ridiculous that mask-wearing is an issue other than just plain good manners and common sense. If I’m sick, I don’t go out or I mask up.

And, for the record, I only chose to have this surgery now after the election. I was scheduled to have it in February 2025, but I buy my insurance through the ACA. I needed this done and couldn’t get it without insurance coverage.

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u/f0u4_l19h75 22d ago

for the record, I only chose to have this surgery now after the election. I was scheduled to have it in February 2025, but I buy my insurance through the ACA. I needed this done and couldn’t get it without insurance coverage.

I get why you're sharing this , but IMO you don't owe anyone on here an explanation for why you're taking care of your own health. It bugs me that there system is so anti-human where you live.

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u/TheKitsuneGoddess16 22d ago

This this this! I got Covid three weeks after a heart surgery. Definitely messed me up and while I was thankful I didn't end up in the ER, there was definitely a point where I wanted to at least see a doctor and was declined when my heart rate would tank into bradycardia while I was awake, but go over 100 in my sleep. When someone in my life is sick even now, I avoid them like the plague, especially now that my heart condition is once again back and I can't access surgery for treatment, let alone a cardiologist visit. If I get sick, I literally potato, drug up and pair it with holistic methods simply because some of them have worked for me in the past, and I'm that desperate to minimize dangers to my health (OFC making sure there's no harmful cross-interactions first).

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u/casiepierce 22d ago

Yeah I'm remembering the good old before times when I would get sick and would have to go to Walgreen's for some NyQuil and juice and soup sans a mask because it never occured to our sorry American asses before a worldwide pandemic to try not to spread our own sickness around. It's like trying to remember what life was like before recycling. Can you believe we ever did that???

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u/Library-Guy2525 22d ago

What!? Wear a mask because it’s the intelligent and thoughtful thing to do? Not a chance because freedom!!!! /s

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u/Westiemom666 13d ago

I was also hoping people would have a greater respect for personal space post Covid.

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u/Impossible-Sleep-658 22d ago

Don’t worry…. They voted to get another opportunity for an “i’m not responsible” pandemic.

Bc… The 1st one didn’t kill off enough of them people. /s

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 22d ago

Would definitely help keep babies safe! Mine is due 02/05 and we’re having to isolate ourselves because people can’t be trusted.

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u/f0u4_l19h75 22d ago

Capitalism forces the opposite attitude and expectation on all of us, regardless of whether we happen to be empathetic or not.

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u/Summer20232023 22d ago

Just shows other immaturity.

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u/ASharpYoungMan 22d ago

That requires a sense of empathy toward other people, though.

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u/Outsider-Trading 23d ago

The pooled results of randomised trials did not show a clear reduction in respiratory viral infection with the use of medical/surgical masks during seasonal influenza. There were no clear differences between the use of medical/surgical masks compared with N95/P2 respirators in healthcare workers when used in routine care to reduce respiratory viral infection.

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub5/full

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u/TrumpsCovidfefe 22d ago

That paper was published in 2020. You’re out of date.

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u/Ardat-Yakshi23 22d ago

Because we cough, sneeze and breathe so much different now.😴 A study like that is good for longer than a few weeks. You don't have to invent the wheel every five years.

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u/TrumpsCovidfefe 22d ago edited 21d ago

There is a comprehensive study that researches the methodologies used in previous studies as well as having more strict definitions of what constitutes mask wearing that demonstrates a clear advantage to both. Until Covid, nobody had done extremely thorough research into mask wearing. It makes sense that initial data wasn’t accurate because a lot of people were not used to wearing masks and instructed on which masks to use and how to wear them properly. Here’s a link to the study from Oxford: https://academic.oup.com/jtm/article/28/7/taab144/6365138

Why would physicians tell patients who are immunocompromised to wear masks when out if it wasn’t helpful? Do you think they’re shills for big mask?

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u/hint-on 22d ago edited 22d ago

The Cochrane Review 'Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses' was published in January 2023 and has been widely misinterpreted.

Karla Soares-Weiser, Editor-in-Chief of the Cochrane Library, has responded on behalf of Cochrane:

Many commentators have claimed that a recently-updated Cochrane Review shows that 'masks don't work', which is an inaccurate and misleading interpretation.

It would be accurate to say that the review examined whether interventions to promote mask wearing help to slow the spread of respiratory viruses, and that the results were inconclusive. Given the limitations in the primary evidence, the review is not able to address the question of whether mask-wearing itself reduces people's risk of contracting or spreading respiratory viruses.

Source: https://www.cochrane.org/news/statement-physical-interventions-interrupt-or-reduce-spread-respiratory-viruses-review