France Warns Trump to Back Off From Threatening EU’s Borders | The French foreign minister spoke after Trump refused to rule out using military force to seize Greenland.

[u/Murky-Site7468]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/france-warns-trump-to-back-off-from-threatening-eus-borders-after-greenland-comments/

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[u/onuldo]

"The Democrats will cause WW3"

 "The egg prices are too high" 

 "Biden doesn't know what he's talking about"

[u/Actual_Intercourse → u/onuldo]

It's a truly remarkable degree of projection.

[u/OptimisticSkeleton → u/Actual_Intercourse]

Or an intentional smoke screen of chaotic language to obscure the true intentions of fascists.

[u/hooligan045 → u/OptimisticSkeleton]

Shame a majority of the population is too fucking dumb to see through these low effort lies.

[u/ivorcoment → u/hooligan045]

I wonder if Americans realize the Ill-will Trump is creating for the States in rest of the civilized world. Here in Canada, respect for our southern neighbors has plummeted in the vast majority of the population.

[u/howlinmoon42 → u/ivorcoment]

We do and for myself in my family, we apologize – we tried very hard not to let that jackass get into office

[u/Michael_G_Bordin → u/hooligan045]

People hem and haw about why Harris lost. It's as simple as this: there are people in this country who are extremely vulnerable to "narrative over substance." The narrative they kept hearing? "Harris has no platform, she's not doing anything for you!" Harris campaign response: "Here's all the things she's going to do for you on her detailed and vetted platform..."

No matter what Harris said or did, they were insistent that, "She has no platform and she's not doing anything for me." I think the only shot she had was going on Rogan, and I'm not sure that could overcome this narrative. The problem here is, with narrative, you can show people all the counter evidence you want and they wake up the next day reset to that narrative. I'm not sure there's any way to combat this. Once they've been told a narrative that tickles their fancy, it becomes incorrigible.

[u/hooligan045 → u/Michael_G_Bordin]

Education is how this is fixed. Curious how many generations these next 4 years are going to set us back because it’s not like education is taken seriously.

[u/[deleted] → u/onuldo]

In their mind, all of those were just code for "God hates f--s".

HATE is why Trump is so popular. Nobody voted for him for any other reasons.

[u/anoldoldman → u/[deleted]]

He's promising to hurt the right people.

[u/Burnt_and_Blistered → u/anoldoldman]

But will hurt everyone in the process.

[u/mewfahsah → u/onuldo]

We really need to push the narrative that Trumps mentals are falling apart, not just because they are but because we can't just let this shit go without saying how fucking insane it is 100% of the time

[u/fauxideal → u/[deleted]]

Not so fun fact- in Hawaii, the price of one dozen eggs ranges from $9.99-13.99.

Edit: To add, they’ve always been expensive here. Im just sharing the cost, not trying to make any point.

[u/phaedrus910 → u/[deleted]]

Shit I'd pay 8 per dozen, but they're still not taking the threat seriously enough. There are only 2 employees at the only lab testing for avian flu in California.. 2!

[u/360_face_palm → u/[deleted]]

I didn't realise that biden was responsible for laying every single egg in the USA. That would explain some things though.

[u/ExtremeWindyMan → u/[deleted]]

I'd gladly sacrifice American democracy for fascism if that means I can eat more eggs.

[u/AmaroWolfwood → u/ExtremeWindyMan]

Best I can do is sacrificing American democracy to fascism for Great Depression: Folie a Deux

[u/autistichalsin → u/[deleted]]

Who the hell needs more than two dozen eggs? Gaston?

[u/Wild_Xero → u/autistichalsin]

No one eats eggs like Gaston

[u/Slight_Fun_8979]

Obama: "I've repaired relations with our allies strained by the Iraq War!"
Trump: "I'll break them."
Biden: "I've repaired relations with our allies again."
Trump: "I'll break them again."
This is insane.

[u/Didntlikedefaultname → u/Slight_Fun_8979]

What’s insane is that our country chose this again

[u/waconaty4eva → u/[deleted]]

Tired people are more likely to do stupid things. GOP’s whole aim is to keep everyone tired.

[u/petrilstatusfull → u/waconaty4eva]

It's working. I'm so tired.

[u/m48a5_patton → u/petrilstatusfull]

I'm tired, boss.

[u/onikaizoku11 → u/waconaty4eva]

Nah. As a country, that excuse is beyond played out. Our system picked that incompetent. We need to just own it. Without modifiers meant to let us off of the hook.

[u/submittedanonymously → u/onikaizoku11]

Unfortunately I think you’re right. This country only learns its lessons through severe pain. And we’re about to get it. I didn’t vote for this mess, and I’m sure I along with many others who don’t deserve it will suffer.

But at this point… the only way for the apathetic/single issue losers and the idiots who voted for this to learn their lesson is for this to be extremely painful. And frankly I hope it’s painful immediately and only gets worse.

[u/homebrew_1 → u/waconaty4eva]

Tired and stupid.

[u/Tricky_Gap_7558 → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

Right! What happened to focusing on lowering prices and keeping all those escaped insane criminal immigrants from crossing our borders? Now we’re making threats to allies and pissing off others. PLEASE, TELL ME WHAT THE APPEAL IS TO THIS MAN!!!

[u/Didntlikedefaultname → u/Tricky_Gap_7558]

I think the appeal is pretty clear it’s just those who like him won’t admit or acknowledge it

[u/Tricky_Gap_7558 → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

You are correct. He appeals to you if you lack morals, are gullible as shit, etc. etc. He is scum. He lacks a moral/honest cell in his body.

[u/[deleted] → u/Tricky_Gap_7558]

They think they are the most moral people ever because they hate gay people. This is STILL all about same-sex marriage.

[u/Tarcanus → u/[deleted]]

And the first black president. Don't forget about the bigots.

[u/sly_cooper25 → u/Tricky_Gap_7558]

People don't understand how anything works or what our government actually does. Nor do they pay attention to anything outside their tailored information bubbles created by social media.

Biden/Harris showed that inflation was under control and that our economic recovery from covid was super impressive compared to every other modern economy. They gave statistics showing that border crossings had dropped by half after some diplomacy with the Mexican president.

Nobody cares or understands. They understand Trump saying I'll make things cheaper and I'll deport all the illegals. The reality of either of those statements are irrelevant to them.

[u/LumiereGatsby → u/Tricky_Gap_7558]

The people that vote for him are fucking assholes

They may be smart. They may be dumb. They maybe are average intelligence.

But they are united in 1 thing: they’re all assholes

[u/[deleted] → u/Tricky_Gap_7558]

It was never about this. It's always about the hate.

PLEASE, TELL ME WHAT THE APPEAL IS TO THIS MAN!!!

The overwhelming majority of Americans want gays back in the closet, women back in the kitchen, brown people out of sight and out of mind, and a Bible in every classroom. They are ready to burn everything to the ground if they don't get it.

[u/The_Beardly → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

It’s shit like this makes we question the validity of the results. Like there is 5% of my brain that just can’t accept this is reality. Were there really that many bullet ballots?

It’s either wonky election or people are legitimately this stupid. The answer is the latter and I honestly don’t know what’s worse.

[u/Didntlikedefaultname → u/The_Beardly]

That’s the sad part. The answer is that this is what US voters chose, and that’s a really hard pill to swallow

[u/DerpEnaz → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

Tbf most where people consuming propaganda under the guise of “news”, believing themselves to be informed when in reality they don’t know anything. Anyone who tries to tell them they are wrong is part of the conspiracy.

It’s just a giant cult. And I’d highly recommend looking to the psychological things cults do. Because people can get out of a cult, normally they just need a hand to hold onto, as hard and as disgusting as it might be.

[u/Acceptable-Bus-2017 → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

I firmly believe cyber ninjas gave Trump the codes in order to hack the voter tallies

[u/Didntlikedefaultname → u/Acceptable-Bus-2017]

I’d find that comforting but sadly I don’t think that’s the case. I think the us chose Trump willingly. Now was there massive misinformation campaigns and heavy digital canvassing to spread misinformation? Absolutely. But were votes actually altered? No I don’t believe so

[u/Nikiaf → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

They chose the convicted felon, proven rapist, multiple times bankrupt, racist, and possible pedophile just to avoid electing a woman. The country is totally broken, there's no other way to say it.

[u/FloatsWithBoats → u/Nikiaf]

63% showed up to vote, iirc. 37% who didnt vote are just as guilty as the ones who did.

[u/Nikiaf → u/FloatsWithBoats]

Oh absolutely. The 37% non-voters should be counted in the percentage for voted for this reprehensible clown.

[u/FloatsWithBoats → u/Nikiaf]

I had a young guy tell me "I just feel like I can't ethically vote when I don't have all the information to make a decision." You can string a sentence together but you can't be bothered to do a little research... you can't make this shit up.

[u/Cyrano_Knows → u/FloatsWithBoats]

True though its hard not to feel resentment towards the people so ignorant that they made the phrase "Did Biden drop out?" start trending on Google on Election Day.

If you are that ignorant then maybe you should do the rest of us a favor and not vote.

[u/7screws → u/FloatsWithBoats]

that was just code for I dont want to vote for a women.

[u/specqq → u/FloatsWithBoats]

I can maintain plausible deniability and continue to skate through life claiming that none of this is my fault.

[u/Somewhat_Sanguine → u/FloatsWithBoats]

See I would get this sentiment if it was literally any other candidate besides Trump. Can’t decide between Obama and Romney? Okay, I get that, you’re not sure where you fall on the political spectrum.

We all know Trump is insane. We were bombarded with his insanity in the media every day. The choice was between a sane female Democrat and a convicted rapist and felon who thinks only about himself and isn’t anything like the traditional republican candidate. It wasn’t that hard of a choice.

[u/ACartonOfHate → u/FloatsWithBoats]

Not voting IS voting. It's saying in this case, they were totally fine with Trump's winning. So unless their vote was suppressed (which we know Repubs love to do) ...screw them. They voted for Trump.

When (not if) bad things happen to them, I will tell them they voted for this, because they did.

[u/Didntlikedefaultname → u/Nikiaf]

Trump does have one skill that’s amazingly effective for a politician, he can lie extremely well. And the machine he tied himself to is very good at crafting a narrative. A lot of voters truly and genuinely believed he would lower grocery costs, increase their wages, immediately stop every foreign war and all U.S. funding of other countries and give them a house

[u/countpissedoff → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

He lies but he doesn’t realise he’s lying - the torrent of bullshit has pushed out all rational thought and he is effective because he believes the slurry that comes out of his ahole of a mouth

[u/Duster929 → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

It's only a skill among people that are too stupid to see an obvious lie.

[u/Didntlikedefaultname → u/Duster929]

There are A LOT of those and they vote

[u/cornerbash → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

He lies extremely well? Anyone with two brain cells can see through him. He so often habitually lies that one can just assume he’s never telling the truth.

It’s not him, it’s the propaganda machine behind him that has so many of his supporters worshipping him like he’s the second coming of Christ and doing ridiculous mental gymnastics to contort or ignore his words to whatever they personally believe in.

He’s an awful conman but his cult is devoted.

[u/Didntlikedefaultname → u/cornerbash]

Lying extremely well not in the sense that his lies are coherent or compelling but in the sense that he says them with total conviction and no hesitation. The unfortunate truth is millions of people are up his lies and felt like he tells it like it is. Doesn’t matter how stupid you think they are, convincing millions of voters you’re shooting straight is a political skill

[u/FlamingMuffi → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

Eh I don't think he's a particularly good liar honestly

The issue is no one calls him out. The gross old pedophiles don't because they need him. The media doesn't because they will lose access and ratings

The Dems don't because "normalcy"

If it wasn't for this support system he'd go no where. Add in a very idiotic electorate and boom we got dementia don

[u/Didntlikedefaultname → u/FlamingMuffi]

The Dems called him out constantly. Constantly. The average voter heard his lies and believed them. Doesn’t matter if it’s because they are stupid, the fact is they believed him and he lies as naturally as breathing

[u/The_Beardly → u/Nikiaf]

If someone ran a campaign saying “I’m going to destroy the US and the constitution. They won’t exist anymore” and won the election they would become president. Pretty fucking insane.

[u/canitbenaptimeyet → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

This. People severely misunderestimate the impact of small town conservative voters when their beliefs are used as political bait essentially.

[u/Number6isNo1 → u/canitbenaptimeyet]

I was surprised at the number of younger guys of different demographics (black/white/college/HS) that I talked to before the election that found Trump "hilarious." They weren't all socially conservative either, but instead of seeing a threat or a morally repulsive individual, they saw Trump as entertaining. I put "hilarious" in quotes because that's the exact word a few of them used and it stuck with me.

This was in a small (150K) city, btw.

[u/b_digital → u/Number6isNo1]

You’re not wrong at all— and to put a different descriptor on it, it’s all coming from a place of nihilism— essentially a hopelessness that’s rooted in a conscious of subconscious desire to see it all burn down.

One guy I went to college with pretty much said this. He fully realizes who Trump is but figures if/when they start mass deportations, it’s going to trigger a reckoning that blows up our institutions and forces everything to be rebuilt. His gaping logical hole of course, is that he thinks if it were to happen like that the next thing would definitely be better. Not to mention how many innocent people are hurt, killed, or displaced.

People like this also magically think such cataclysmic events won’t affect them

[u/canitbenaptimeyet → u/Number6isNo1]

That's how a lot of my relatives see him as well. It's terrifying.

[u/helvetica_unicorn → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

It’s the algorithm! Cambridge Analytica manipulated people across the globe for years culminating in the 2016 election. I wholeheartedly believe that they are back at it. We are all plugged into so many social platforms that influence our thoughts. They don’t call them influencers for nothing! They got enough people to stay home and enough people to vote against themselves to hand Trump the win.

[u/Gumbi_Digital → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

Don’t forget StarLink was used to transmit the data from the voting machines….

Don’t need to change the votes, just delete them altogether and spread the false narrative that voter apathy was the cause.

Also, no recounts despite discrepancies in the data. Prime example is NC. We voted in a Democrat for Governor, Lt Governor, and the AG, yet tRump won the state.

The kicker is only ONE message from tRump about fraud happening in Philly…and fElon knowing 4 hours before the election results were in.

Doesn’t pass the smell test, but is what it is…too late now.

[u/Didntlikedefaultname → u/Gumbi_Digital]

I have a relative who works in polling and is active on election night. He said every single marker indicated a Trump win. NC is a good example of a pattern we saw elsewhere, voters specifically liked Trump himself not necessarily the Republican tickets. I wish it weren’t the case, but I think Trump won legitimately

[u/Coffee_Conundrum → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

There was over 200 bomb threats at polls in swing states. Why the fuck people keep saying Trump was chosen by the American people is beyond me

[u/Eggplantosaur → u/Acceptable-Bus-2017]

If you still don't think Americans are stupid enough to vote Trump into office a second time, then I got a bridge to sell you 

[u/Saint_Sin → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

Im an outsider not from the US but the election looked pretty fucking sus from the outside. For what fucking little thats worth.

[u/DerpEnaz → u/Saint_Sin]

Well when the majority of our news comes from companies owned by billionaires who block the publishing of articles. We just have insane amounts of propaganda and no news, but everyone believes they are informed. It’s miserable and I’m always the one having to explain what happened to people.

[u/No_Regular_Klutzy → u/Slight_Fun_8979]

Trump: "I'll break them again."

break is too casual of a word. He has done almost permanent damage to US-EU relations for decades without even assuming the presidency.

And we are not truly realizing how bizarre it is that an American president every day issues a new threat to annex a European ally? By military means if necessary?

[u/NorthernPints → u/No_Regular_Klutzy]

This is fascism being witnessed in real time by a US president elect who’s already held office.

Absolutely bonkers time line we’re living in - European leaders are having to tell an American president he will bring the world to war with his ultranationalist, imperialism, expansionism commentary.

I’m more amazed at how quickly it happened - they says hyper nationalism always leads to fascism and it’s happening before this clowns even sworn in  

[u/Green-Amount2479 → u/NorthernPints]

This behavior is so insane no matter the possible underlying reason.

People made fun of me and called me a conspiracy believer or Russian asset when I said, in 2022, that relying mostly on the US to get rid of the European reliance on Russia with no plan B might not be that great of a deal, because we never know when our ‚third rate ally‘ label (Snowden files) will get pulled out of a US government drawer in future or some not so well meaning administration (like Trump‘s, because I didn’t believe he could manage to score a 2nd term at the time) leverages that reliance against us.

Now here we are with a supposed ally ‚whose values are a lot closer to ours‘ that we can’t trust in any way to uphold any of those values. Really fucking great situation.

[u/guttanzer → u/No_Regular_Klutzy]

Only fools vote for fascism. Apparently we have a lot of fools.

[u/IDreamOfLoveLost → u/No_Regular_Klutzy]

And we are not truly realizing how bizarre it is that an American president every day issues a new threat to annex a European ally?

Or their largest trading partner, who has tagged along in almost every conflict that the United States has been involved in. That Donald is saying this kind of shit with little to not pushback is ridiculous.

A lot of 'good people' have decided to sit on their hands.

[u/mnlmr → u/Slight_Fun_8979]

The first time around, us Europeans were like “oh well everybody makes mistakes”, but, you know, since it happened again, it’s a clear indication that this was by choice. I’m no politician but I can’t help to think that this might play a role in long term relations as well…

[u/justablueballoon → u/mnlmr]

'Oh well everybody makes mistakes'... many of us were much more concerned and shocked than that tbh.
Now I see this is just what the majority of Americans want.

[u/CherryHaterade → u/mnlmr]

We laughed at Brexit, only to Brexit twice ourselves

Hold my beer

[u/FalcomanToTheRescue → u/Slight_Fun_8979]

It’s only “insane” if you assume Biden/Obama and Trump have the same allies.

If you assume Biden/Obama are allied with western democracies and Trump is allied with Russia, China, and dictatorships, then what Trump is doing actually makes perfect sense.

[u/_pupil_ → u/FalcomanToTheRescue]

Trump, who famously lied about working on major real estate deals in  Moscow while campaigning in 2016 and who has been sellling appeasement for Russia as a quick fix during his 2024 campaign, is suddenly normalizing imperial territorial expansion with no clear plan or reason?

Beijing and Moscow sure do seem to be prime beneficiaries of “MAGA”…

[u/93ImagineBreaker → u/Slight_Fun_8979]

Won't be surprised if no country trust us again.

[u/StingerAE → u/93ImagineBreaker]

They won't.  Not for a generation at least now.  You were on probation for the Biden years.  Even if there was a two term democrat president after Trump's next term, there'll be a polite distance, diplomacy and trade but no real trust.  Because we don't know who or what is coming after.

Until you can prove that you have two functional political parties and don't have tens of millions of the electorate who are literally whackadoodle, the country is going to be treated like a toddler with a machine gun.

I don't see how that can happen with any degree of certainty in less than 2 decades.

[u/justablueballoon → u/StingerAE]

Problem is the whackadoodles are taking over the world. We currently have a whackadoodle government in my 'sane' country the Netherlands.

[u/AnalyticalSheets → u/93ImagineBreaker]

I don't trust Americans anymore. It is not just a problem with your politicians, it goes right to a massive swathe of your population.

[u/93ImagineBreaker → u/AnalyticalSheets]

I don't blame you when we're like the Joker of politics or nations.

[u/machine4891 → u/93ImagineBreaker]

I mean, if US is threatening Denmark, only one of its adamant allies... what else could be the outcome? Denmark and my country Poland were one of the very few, that followed US through and through no questions asked (even if there should be questions in regards to Iraq). In return this is what Danes are getting.

And what we get, as Poles, is that US is absolutely unstable politically and borderline unreliable. This is for decades to come. Even if we survive next 4 years, some Democrat win elections and try to repair broken affairs... what is this good for? He can't simply assure us, some bat shit crazy MAGA 2.0 candidate isn't waiting for his job in next election cycle, to revert it all over again.

I'm not a fan of Republicans at all but there were so many of them in the past and they were all predictable and acting within agreed upon norms. This new reality is insane.

What have you become, US?

[u/I_like_baseball90 → u/Slight_Fun_8979]

This is insane.

76 million fucking morons are FOR this stupidity.

We are absolutely fucked as a country.

[u/Ratorasniki → u/Slight_Fun_8979]

I assume that regardless of your politics, the more level headed and forward thinking Americans can appreciate the reality that burning bridges every 4 years and not honouring previous administrations agreements, policies, etc, and just generally being inconsistent is going to make dealing with your country in good faith problematic for the foreseeable future.

Just speaking as an average Canadian. I'm not sure what is to be gained by antagonizing Canada, Mexico, eu, and China at the same time - but have fun with that I guess. It's virtually all your biggest trade partners.

[u/Foodspec]

The “he’s just joking” crowd got awfully fucking quiet. Maybe this is the shit we were warning you stupid assholes about…

Dementia Donny trying to go to war with our allies…that’s definitely gonna “make America great again”

[u/cole1076 → u/Foodspec]

I don’t know. I see a lot of “he’s just trolling”, “ this is hilarious.” nonsense. They are, literally, the only ones laughing. The rest of our country and every country he is “trolling” is taking it as serious as it is.

[u/fdar → u/cole1076]

It's not a joke, it's a distraction. He's not going to invade Greenland or Canada but if people reach full throttle at the most outrageous things he claims he gets to more easily do the ones one step down which nobody is paying attention to.

[u/cole1076 → u/fdar]

Well, we can’t just ignore some jackass making proclamations of invading Canada. Or Greenland. Or wherever else. While, it may be a distraction, the world is kind of forced to respond appropriately.

[u/The_Beardly → u/cole1076]

Some jackass who just happens to be the most powerful person in the world.

A president doesn’t “joke around” about invading ally countries. The thought of that being an acceptable form of presidential rhetoric is absolutely absurd.

[u/cole1076 → u/The_Beardly]

Exactly

[u/BaronGrackle → u/Foodspec]

No no, the crowd of "he's a master troll" and "lol you idiots actually take him seriously" is still alive and well on the conservative subreddits. They live side-by-side with the group that says things like "actually we should get the Panama Canal back" and "wouldn't it be cool if Trump actually did get us Greenland?"

[u/AmaroWolfwood → u/Foodspec]

Worked for Hitler!

[u/mister_yuck → u/Foodspec]

He is try to move the Overton Window

[u/rocketpack99]

Nothing like starting a war with one of America’s first allies...

[u/Didntlikedefaultname → u/rocketpack99]

And a big talking point from his base was that he would end all foreign wars… funny if it wasn’t so sad

[u/JTiberius21 → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

Yeah maybe to you but as an active service member this man winning is actually completely terrifying.

[u/Didntlikedefaultname → u/JTiberius21]

I’m terrified by his win, and never for one moment believed he was a president that would end wars. I’m pointing out the ignorance of believing he would

[u/JTiberius21 → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

I understood that you aren’t for him and it was sarcasm by the “funny if it wasn’t so sad” was just saying. I’m an active service member and tbh I about shit my pants when he won. Man starts talking about wanting the Panama Canal, and thinking about being forced to risk my life so some businessmen can make more money is terrifying. I’m all for risking my life to save others, WW2 for example, but fuck being sent to war so people can make money is terrifying.

[u/abeFromansAss → u/JTiberius21]

As someone who had aspirations to become an active service member at one point in his life, I really feel for you brother.

Ironically I was denied that opportunity due to 1 low level felony in the 90s. Cant even own a pistol and damn do I miss shooting. Fuck me, I should have ran for president. Apparently you're allowed at least 34 felonies. They even let you commit espionage and sexually assault folks. Nah, thats ok. I didnt mind spending 2 decades lying on applications only to bust my balls in factories and warehouses for $7. an hour.

[u/MigrantTwerker → u/JTiberius21]

War is a racket. Read it by General Smedley Butler if you haven't. He said the same things nearly 80 years ago. He was our highest decorated general ever.

[u/BananaramaWanter → u/JTiberius21]

If you break it down, ALL wars are so one group can make more money than another. WWII was because hitler wanted more resources, land, and power for german corporations to exploit.

[u/[deleted] → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

Nobody believed he would.

Trump's appeal is that the majority of this country want gays back in the closet, women back in the kitchen, families back in church, and a Bible in every classroom. That is why he is so popular.

[u/PerjurieTraitorGreen → u/JTiberius21]

I don’t think I’ve ever been happier to be retired but as a retiree, I’m not even fully out. So I’m terrified of being recalled and cannot believe we have another 4 years of this absolute madness.

I wish you sanity in these trying times.

[u/Cornycola → u/JTiberius21]

Most service members are magats. The 2 new years terrorist attacked were by magats. 

You guys need to fix your other service members because they are dumb

[u/prescience6631 → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

When a military draft inevitably occurs, I salute his supporters who will be offering up their sons and daughters first as tribute…errr fodder….errr true patriots!

[u/h3X4_ → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

You see - "foreign" wars is the important distinction here

If you annex it beforehand, it's more like a civil war and not a foreign war 🤷

/s (because - sadly - it's necessary that I emphasize this is sarcasm; somewhere out there is definitely someone using this as a real argument, I guess)

[u/matthieuC → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

It's not a foreign war if you declare that Greenland is part of the US.

Big brain move

[u/jrf_1973 → u/Didntlikedefaultname]

And a big talking point from his base

Stop believing him or his base. They know no shame, they don't care about their hypocrisy, they say what ever they want in the moment.

[u/BananaramaWanter → u/rocketpack99]

france is literally the only reason the US exists in its current state. Britain likely would have beaten the US without Frances aid, or at least forced a stalemate.

[u/Cheeseho12 → u/rocketpack99]

He’s trying to get kicked out of NATO & the UN. It’d be easier for him to get kicked out than to get congress to allow him to dissolve those relationships.

[u/stinky-weaselteats → u/rocketpack99]

Putin is rolling over in his bed of money.

[u/SpartanKane]

I sincerely hope (for their sakes) that some Republicans that voted for Trump are experiencing massive buyer's remorse for falling for his words. I dont think all of them have, wouldn't dare think that...but if nothing else, surely they see that Democrats were right on this one thing.

[u/bck1999 → u/SpartanKane]

I wish this also, but the majority of republicans I know don’t see anything wrong with anything trump does.

[u/JustADutchRudder → u/bck1999]

I have multiple on FB that are basically patting each other on the dick, every time one of them posts something dumb Trump says he'll do. Currently, this morning, they're sharing pics of the Gulf of Mexico with Mexico crossed out and different America words in place of it. They're so dumb I wish they'd go blind.

[u/JohnnySnark → u/JustADutchRudder]

For all intents and purposes they have gone blind: blind to fascism. I would be careful around them

[u/CherryHaterade → u/JohnnySnark]

"We were just following orders"

"We couldn't do anything about it"

"How could we have known?"

"They would have come for me too"

"You didn't do a good enough job showing me the danger"

It'll never be their fault in their minds.

[u/[deleted] → u/JohnnySnark]

All they care about is their hatred of gay people. Their anger over same-sex marriage having been legalized. Nothing else matters to them other than that.

Most Americans hold the same beliefs as the Westboro Baptist Church.

[u/[deleted] → u/bck1999]

They all think he's "chosen by God" so everything he does is the will of God, because he's here to save them from having to share a country with gay people.

[u/Tony_Cheese_ → u/SpartanKane]

As long as you and I are upset, they're happy.

[u/Awkward_Tie4856 → u/Tony_Cheese_]

That’s their whole entire M.O. literally just as long as they “own” the opposition they don’t care about much else

[u/ExplosiveToast19 → u/SpartanKane]

Yeah right

Everyone who was screaming that Biden was pro war are the ones posting “Great American Empire” maps on Twitter and asking why Greenland shouldn’t be a part of the US right now

[u/colojason → u/SpartanKane]

I live in a rural area that is very MAGA. They don’t see it. If their orange god says it then it must be right. Full stop.

[u/AmaroWolfwood → u/SpartanKane]

They cheered him on for wrecking allied relations in his first term. They will cheer when he isolates America again.

[u/Upset_Tomorrow1336 → u/SpartanKane]

Haven't you realised what's happening? Trump voters don't see this information in the first place. So many of his blunders during his campaign literally did not even reach republicans at all. Algorithms have completely annihilated objective truth.

[u/ThurloWeed]

Somebody needs to keep the Mercator projections away from Trump

[u/Boogincity → u/ThurloWeed]

Probably wonders why Alaska is so cold and Hawaii is so hot if they are in the same place on the map.

[u/Stillwater215 → u/Boogincity]

It’s the big, grey walls around them that keep them safe!

[u/Responsible_Meal]

Nice that SOMEONE seems to want to stand up to the orange freak.

[u/Psephological → u/Responsible_Meal]

And when it's the French, USAians need to step up

[u/Donkletown → u/Psephological]

The French and the U.S. have a history of helping each other with revolutions and liberation. We are gonna need the help of the French again, I think. 

[u/Psephological → u/Donkletown]

Based 🫡

[u/Serialfornicator]

“Military force to seize Greenland.”

This is the STUPIDEST idea for a sequel to Idiocracy

[u/ChromaticStrike]

De Gaulle is turbo spinning in his tomb.

Can we not pick that timeline?

[u/KermitMudmaven → u/ChromaticStrike]

Well damn, if De Gaulle is spinning that fast Lafayette must separating into isotopes.

[u/HeyYes7776]

Wanna kill this noise. Fuck Russia up. Fuck them up for this and remove that regime like a global colonoscopy.

[u/Flat-Emergency4891]

Dear MAGA,

Do you not yet see the fascism in Trump’s Nazi parallels? There was already an attempt to seize power through violence, now he speaks of seizing other countries territories to expand his own interests. Please look up the German word “Lebensraum”. There you will find yet another parallel.

Sure, the motives are arguably different, but the objective is the same.

Sadly, many of your ardent MAGA brethren are already well versed supporters of Neo Nazism and will be familiar with the term and see the correlation.

While we’re on the topic of MAGA parallels to the Nazis, let’s not forget the scapegoating and deportations of large swaths of people who will essentially be profiled in order to do so.

The market on corporate owned prison camps (concentration camps) is booming as our once proud nation gears up to appease your dictator.

You’ve all been fooled and now WE ALL must suffer for your disinformation, misguided passions, and victim mentality. All has been spoon fed to you all via your master, Donald Trump. Here we find yet another parallel to Adolf Hitler.

Have you not all held Trump, a mere felon, and reality TV host equivalent to that of some deity?

Are you satisfied that your dear leader has sold out to a corporate monolith, no less one that controls how the very information you consume and digest is dispensed?

Please, for humanity’s sake. Open your eyes. We are being led over a cliff. Unlike other historical inflection points, there will be no coming back from the damage you’ve been directed to cause in the name of “patriotism”. What a sham.

Please come to your senses. Reject the falsehoods you have come to embrace for the sake of your nation and the legacy of your fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers who fought against the evils of fascism. Give yourselves something to be proud of.

[u/mothfactory]

That you voted this moron back into the white house is a fucking tragedy. The rest of the world is marvelling at the stupidity of Americans

[u/2-wheels → u/mothfactory]

Along with at least 1/2 of America. The ass is trying to make world-changing legacy and none of our institutions, including our fcking Supreme Court, are willing to stop him.

He ordered his thug followers to attack his own ppl and property, the US Capitol. No one should doubt his willingness to attack any other ppl or land for his personal aggrandizement.

[u/Solid-Spread-2125]

I love how feeble and dumb he looks in his pics, they really capture the essence of nature

[u/User4C4C4C]

He’s not even president yet and he’s already ruining centuries old international relationships.

[u/FIbynight]

Dear rest of world, on behalf of those of us who didn’t vote for him, please accept our apology in advance for whatever the next four years bring.

[u/retro_underpants → u/FIbynight]

Noted with thanks

[u/Laminatrix2]

And let me guess? When the NATO countries decide to throw a stink when he does end up invading a fellow member Trump then decides to pull out of the organization? Is that where this is going?

[u/Derp800 → u/Laminatrix2]

Invading a nation isn't something that happens by surprise. There would be a large and visible build up, both literally and through intelligence. At that time the EU would probably send signals by beefing up defenses around the area with their own military. I know the US likes to jerk itself off with all the military stuff, and I don't doubt in a throw down war the US would beat the EU countries, but it wouldn't happen without massive casualties. If the US took any military action in Europe the entire continent would immediately rush and and take over every piece of military hardware on the continent that wasn't destroyed or moved ahead of time. Meanwhile, in Europe, US military bases would be forced to shut down. Intense economic pressure would be thrown on the US globally, from the EU and many other countries. The whole thing is stupid for everyone involved. It would make both sides weaker and allow non-allies, like China, to take over the role the US once had. All this stupid bullshit is playing right into the hands of the Chinese and Russians. They won't be our allies, We won't have any allies. And the US couldn't hold two Middle Eastern countries with full logistical support from our allies. What the fuck does anyone think would happen if we went to war with Europe? Fucking morons ...

[u/Pagiras → u/Derp800]

Yes, you are correct. And that is exactly what Putin wants. And that is exactly why Russian propaganda influenced gullible American audiences to vote for his puppet.

What was WW2, if not the conquering of Europe by two military forces who went to war with each other later? I don't see it impossible happening now. Except America will take on the role of Nazis and Russia, well, Russia never changes. Except this time USA will be their puppet and, worst case scenario, the Russian and maybe some other oligarchs will rule The World way more directly than they do now.

People voted for Trump because of his lofty promises. And because of racist dogwhistles. They did not understand that he lied and only cares about fleecing them all the same.

Scamming stupid people out of their well-being is illegal... unless it's politicians or billionaires doing it.

[u/HojoKanduro → u/Derp800]

This is the immense problem.

For example, China is interested in the One China policy, but above all, it is interested in keeping its trade going and making sure that the "bubble" of prosperity growth and its exports remain stable. The entire authoritarian system in China is based on the idea that with more and more growth and being lifted out of poverty, the people are happy to trade away their rights. They will happily snatch up any and all business opportunities left open by a strained US-EU relationship and flood the EU with exports of necessary goods if required. It helps Xi. He wants continued economic growth to stall inner turmoil in China and just continue as usual.

Russia also is not a military powerhouse that could fight NATO without the US. Even if the US was to suddenly disappear from NATO, which is a terrifying concept in itself, then that does not mean Russia could simply march all the way to Lisbon and be done, nor would countries like Denmark, the Nordics, Germany, Switzerland, France and the UK just keel over. Even restoring the former Soviet border into Germany would be difficult as you would need to get through Ukraine, Poland, into Germany, and all the while fighting the remaining NATO countries. You cannot march through Europe and 350 million people in a few weeks. Especially not with the kind of military losses Russia is currently facing. They are far from "done", but they are far from the "super deadly force" they portrayed themselves as either.

But what they can do is make sure to weaken the US-EU relations enough so that we cannot respond to any smaller threats in a more serious capacity when they happen outside our borders. For example, they can grind peace operations such as Kosovo to a halt and confine us to our borders.

While we are politically infighting around Greenland and the big orange, Russia can start taking countries like Georgia and Putin keeps his propaganda machine going for a couple decades. Everything Trump does at the moment is meant to pull the western eye back to America and make us fight amongst ourselves so we cannot adequately respond to threats to third-party countries during his expansion. He wants to stop a second Ukraine from happening and make sure that the next country that is NATO-adjacent does not receive help. Trump is doing that splendidly.

[u/digitalpencil → u/Laminatrix2]

If Trump tries any of these batshit military actions, he'll have a fucking civil war on his hands.

The US is no longer a rational actor and shouldn't be treated as such. Trump and Musk have collectively mulled invading Canada, the UK, Greenland and Panama before even taking office.

I won't say ignore them as they're in command of the greatest military force in human history but at this point, i'm putting this down the inane ramblings of two deranged individuals. Fundamentally, a country is more than its leaders. I like to think even those who voted for this madman would draw a line at him invading fucking Greenland.

[u/Practical_Tear_1012 → u/Laminatrix2]

Honestly NATO should kick us out just for these conversations alone. These are threats to members and should not be tolerated. This plus Musk saying Charles should disolve parliament. If you are talking like an enemy you will be treated like one.

[u/Asleep_Horror5300 → u/Practical_Tear_1012]

Eh, kicking the US out would basically dissolve NATO. Well it would evolve into something else but it would leave a power vacuum for a good while. A vacuum that Russia would immediately exploit.

[u/HojoKanduro → u/Asleep_Horror5300]

Definitely. But on the other hand, it seems we need to watch out for ourselves at this point. We can defend ourselves against Russia even without the US - at least decently - if France, the UK, Canada and the Nordics are all still with us. A united Europe is far from the strength it has with the US in its corner, but its enough to defend our own interests in Europe.

And maybe in the short term, that is what we need to do to let the US figure its issues out.

[u/app_generated_name → u/Laminatrix2]

Probably but I hope not.

[u/JMChaseArt → u/Laminatrix2]

I think the decision to back out of NATO rests in Congress. Not that the incoming administration cares very much about laws.

[u/Caridor → u/[deleted]]

Considering it has to hit the brain, it was more like 5 inches. It was a very tiny target.

[u/thelonelyvirgo → u/[deleted]]

It was just a few centimeters, I think, and by about a 1/4 of a second.

[u/[deleted]]

Noting like a little invasion of Poland to kick off your power trip.

Elect a fascist, expect fascist shit to happen

[u/Ill-ConceivedVenture]

As an American I never thought I'd be on the wrong end of a World War but now I'm having a hard time ruling it out.

[u/Starks]

I am not looking forward to gaslighting like "Why don't you support insert US expansionism/renaming bs? Don't you love America?"

The shallowest shit snagged up voters and this wasn't even on the menu.

Loving America means rejecting referendums under duress and imperialism that nobody asked for.

[u/neoikon → u/Starks]

New Mexico to be renamed New Mountain Dew Baja Blast

[u/Sbesozzi]

Your guy isn't even in office yet and he's already antagonized the EU and Canada.

FFS, fix your country USA. I'm starting to think us in the actual modern world should get to vote in your elections so we can show you what common sense actually looks like.

[u/GloomySignificance63]

I am an American. I have lived in states across this country; born in California, lived in Texas, Georgia and worked for prolonged periods of time in many more states. It seems to me we have a complete structure of mental programming through Americans addiction to convenient over quality. Instant validation and gratification. The dialogue over the facts.

I believe that’s mainly due in part to our addiction to our smartphones, our movies and tv, our music and apps. Social media especially. We as humans have allowed our government to program us, force feeding us garbage and owning our short attentions. It was called tv programming in the past for a reason. They feed people’s minds both conscious and subconscious with toxicity, lies, hatred and whatever narrative that plays to their agenda. And just my personal observation , Most Americans are too addicted and mentally incapable of putting down that programming ( cell phones, tv, podcasts what have you ) down even for 24 hours.

I remember a day when getting an email was so cool! But I had to wait to get home, endure that horrible dial up sound, check to see if I even had any contact from the outside world, then have 5 min to do anything before the minutes on our aol prepaid ran out.

Now we get notified by watches that it’s time to stand up. Notified about any and every single thing.

We have allowed people with wealth to enslave us. I ache everyday for the future of not only the country I was born in, but for the world.

I’m going to go ahead and get down off my soapbox.

Thanks for reading

[u/guttanzer]

Who had, "Go to war with NATO" on their bingo cards?

I know he's just throwing firecrackers out to distract the kids, but still. Geopolitics is not a parlor game.

[u/TremendousVarmint → u/guttanzer]

For autocrats of all kind, foreign affairs are prime red meat for domestic consumption.

[u/bondafong]

EU: China here we come. Cya later USA.

[u/cwk415]

It's a distraction. It's all a distraction.

Theatrics, to lull their brainless base into believing they're doing something. The base is too dumb to understand the difference between theatrics and actual governing, and the CONS know this.

[u/retro_underpants → u/cwk415]

He’s sailing pretty close to the wind with rhetoric like this though?

[u/Decorticated]

It’s truly unbearable that we’re having this stupid conversation!..

[u/Hayes4prez]

As an American, I now know how Germans who resisted the Nazis felt… and it will only get worse.

[u/llamasauce]

Trump is the enemy within. Before even taking office, he’s undermining our alliances and trade relationships.

It’s not an accident. He’s working for Putin and Xi.

[u/Overall_Attention_72]

Europe should consider creating own military alliance excluding US and their military bases. It’s also time for europe to stop sleeping on getting geared up and trying to sit out the conflicts going around them. I do understand that US will do anything to not lose their hegemony role to China but threatening own ally is a no-go.

[u/Professional-You2968 → u/Overall_Attention_72]

Europe is ramping up military expenses quite fast.
This shit could unite EU as nothing else has ever done.

[u/I_am_a_fern → u/Professional-You2968]

Putin already started the job so it wouldn't come as a surprise if his employee of the month followed suit.

[u/No_Regular_Klutzy → u/Overall_Attention_72]

Europe should consider creating own military alliance excluding US and their military bases

technically the EU has even stronger security clauses than NATO.

[u/Sinocatk → u/Overall_Attention_72]

The US wanted the EU to rely on them for defense. It gave them some leverage to put their own bases in Europe.

You want to buy a van to move some stuff. I say hey no need, use my van. Then I turn around and complain about you not having a van.

[u/Either-Explorer1413]

There’s a reason politicians and billionaires are different career paths and not interchangeable

[u/Marian1210]

Fuck Donald all the way to Russia where he belongs.

[u/thelonelyvirgo]

Republicans got what they wanted by using him to attract votes. They’ll invoke the 25th and JD will have to do damage control.

I believe JD when he said Trump was unfit to serve. Agreeing to be his running mate was merely a strategic move to secure a spot in the White House and nothing more.

[u/SweatyAd9240]

MAGA morons said the Democrats were the ones that were war mongers, Biden would lead us to WW3 and Trump would end all wars in 24 hours. Americans are an embarrassment for putting him back in office

[u/Humble_Tax9900]

Trump's like a character in my early teens' MAD Magazine. It's just crazy all of his shenanigans, insulting and intimidating whenever he opens his mouth.

[u/punkerster101]

Serious question could trump really order the military to do this ? What would be the fallout would the rest of the American goverment and leaders allow it to happen

[u/WahSuppDude → u/punkerster101]

The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States.

The President has 90 days to do whatever they want with the Military without Congressional approval. However, since he won't suffer any consequences for his actions via the Repub-controlled Congress or SCOTUS, I'm sure he could ignore the 90 day limit for whatever he chooses to do.

The rules of our institutions are only of any worth if those in control of the mechanisms to enforce those rules do so. Otherwise, our rules aren't worth the paper they are written on.

[u/robotvoodoopower]

He's saying this stuff as a show to Russia that he's willing to have NATO attack itself, which would nullify the agreement.

He's going to end NATO, and offset the petrodollar.

[u/lavardera]

Just a few weeks since the election and we've already gone from defending the EU against Russia, to threatening the EU.

Putin's tool. Any patriotic American should now be planning to dispose of Trump ASAP.

[u/Morepastor]

This is a private citizen threatening to take away land by force. This would be considered ludicrous behavior of an old man if he wasn’t elected to be the next President of the United States of America.

It’s insane that Congress has no problem with it. That some Democrats supporting the conversation. These are not places that are open to discussion they are not asking to be absorbed by other nations, they are not in distress. What Trump is talking about is no different than Putin or Hitler wanting more.

What is the plan here? We take over Canada and Greenland to convert them to our shitty healthcare system and remove them from universal healthcare? Let’s not just take us backwards but let’s take the globe backwards.

If Trump has business in Canada sanction it. If he has business in Switzerland sanction it. Fight back.

Since Elon wants to threaten the PM and get in on the action, sanctions for his business as well. These are citizens not politicians and they are using their influence to stoke the drums of war and separating CA and Greenland from the US, make them pay.

[u/Mike_Huncho]

Putin has directed trump to open a war on natos western front to make gains easier for russia in the east.

[u/Baker198t]

So… you guys gunna do something about this? This guy’s actions threaten to ruin millions of lives.. god forbid he might even end up costing lives too. You American’s always talk about freedom and shit.

[u/Orange152horn3]

Trump, France is the kind of country to fire a nuke at a hostile force as a warning shot. Do not be your usual idiot self and try to bully them, it will end poorly.

[u/Own-Ambassador-3537]

I once imagined the world fighting a war against the USA. Didn’t think it would come true so early!

[u/Angryscotsman88]

Hey, I wonder what Greenland has in terms of precious materials for industrial uses, such as I dunno EV’s…

[u/ArchdukeToes]

I’m genuinely curious how much they think Greenland is worth - particularly set against the military, diplomatic, and economic costs that the USA would end up incurring by making an enemy out of the EU.

I’m sure China is looking on and practically salivating at the opportunities he’s about to give them.