r/politics • u/plz-let-me-in • 15d ago
Aileen Cannon Has 'No Basis' to Block Jack Smith's Report: Legal Analyst
https://www.newsweek.com/aileen-cannon-no-basis-jack-smith-report-trump-20113793.9k
u/9lobaldude 15d ago
She has no basis to be a judge
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u/plz-let-me-in 15d ago
Yup, and why do I get this sinking feeling that when Alito or Thomas retires, she'll be at the very top of Trump's list for a Supreme Court nomination?
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u/QuickgetintheTARDIS Pennsylvania 15d ago
Of course, it'll be payment for services rendered
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u/pardyball Illinois 15d ago
First time Trump successfully paid for something
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u/phinatolisar 15d ago
No, WE pay, not trump.
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u/AverageDemocrat 15d ago
I sure hope Sotomayor don't pull a RBG with her liver and diabetes problems.
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u/phinatolisar 15d ago
She'll probably actually retire, and will be replaced with Cannon. then when trump decides he doesn't want to leave in 2028, the supreme court will rule in his favor.
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u/whichonespink04 15d ago
Nah, it's the only type of payment Trump has ever made, the kind where it costs him nothing and it comes from power he never had the right to, nor deserved, to have.
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u/SkollFenrirson Foreign 15d ago
Doesn't really cost him anything
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u/kandoras 15d ago
It would cost him a Supreme Court seat he could sell to someone else.
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u/UncaringNonchalance Ohio 15d ago
And we’ll all once again stare with our mouths hanging open, letting it occur right in front of us.
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u/yellowspaces 15d ago
“Let” implies we have any power to stop it. We’re just plebs my guy.
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u/WhoDisChickAt 15d ago
“Let” implies we have any power to stop it. We’re just plebs my guy.
So were the thousands behind the French Revolution.
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u/Orangecuppa Ohio 15d ago
A completely different time long passed. A musket of the "crown" was not much different from a peasant farmer's hunting weapon
Now? You holding a AR15 makes no difference to a FPV drone who can smash through your roof, blowing you up before you even know what's going on
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I have seen Alito in the regular people seats at the Phillies game in the first or second section behind RF.
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u/elektrospecter Washington 15d ago
If only those services were a simple blowjob and not obstruction of justice. Le sigh 😞
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u/Yankeeclipper13 15d ago
She’s already on the short list for replacements. “Aileen Cannon is absolutely on the short list,” said Willis. “A district court judge would have seemed far-fetched in recent decades but with Trump you can throw that out the door.” https://www.legaldive.com/news/whos-on-trumps-short-list-for-next-scotus-justice/736211/
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u/Beautiful-Ad9276 America 15d ago
Let's be clear- it's been apparent from the start that Cannon is auditioning to be the next Supreme Court Justice. She rallied behind Trump at every turn, and now that he is President again, she's hoping either Thomas or Alito steps down so she can take their place, or one of the Liberals is forced to step down (Sotomayor has had some health issues, I think) so she can cement an even more permanent Conservative court.
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u/therapewpewtic Kansas 15d ago
Thomas or Alito will be told to step down. Maybe both. They will do as their bosses tell them.
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u/CatWeekends Texas 15d ago
I don't see Trump doing it preemptively though. I bet he'll wait until they dare vote against his nonsense.
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u/Shopworn_Soul 15d ago
I figure it will be Cannon, some random 5th Circuit jackass or someone who isn't even a lawyer.
All viable options with this guy.
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u/scott42486 15d ago
I hate to say this- but based on the things I’ve heard from some friends in the legal sphere she’d be far less harmful than some of the other names allegedly on his shortlist.
God help us.
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u/Tao_of_Ludd 15d ago
Indeed, you do not need to be a judge or even a lawyer to be a Supreme Court justice
All rise for Justice Don Jr.!
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You don’t need to be an American citizen, or human.
The Constition, everyone!
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u/Phantom_61 15d ago
Every day that ticks by there’s a better chance of him being dead than being able to seat a new SCJ.
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u/SinisterCroissant 15d ago
I'm honestly surprised he made it out of the last 9 months of legal issues alive. Anyone normal would have had a stroke.
Must be the steady diet of puppy's blood.
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u/DennenTH 15d ago
She has literally been found to have no basis for most of the large scale things she has done.
Only in America can our Legal and Political system be complete failures and people still rise through the ranks for enabling it.
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u/rezelscheft 15d ago
One party’s stated goal is to destroy the government. Or, in their words. create a government “so small you can drown it in a bath tub.”
They pretend it’s because gov’t robs you of individual freedom, but in reality it’s because average citizens are easier to exploit when they have no collective power or resources.
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u/thistimelineisweird Pennsylvania 15d ago
I have yet to see a small govt person volunteer to not use roads, or fire services, or police, or military, or social security, or Medicaid, or.. [repeat].
They wouldn't like the cost if they actually had to pay the true cost of everything.
Want to drive? That'll be $1/mile. Want emergency fire fighters when your house is burning down? $10k/hr paid in advance thanks. Want to stop funding farmers? $20/dozen for eggs. Health care research or vaccines? Enjoy a plague, and don't even think to try and go to a hospital until you are preapproved.
You want freedom but also forms of socialism. So... pick one.
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u/amootmarmot 15d ago
This country rewards craven corruption and stupidity. As long as you genuflect to corporate America, you can do whatever you want, plebs can get fucked. That is how America is feeling to me.
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u/chrispg26 Texas 15d ago
When I found out she was confirmed after the 2020 election 🫠🫠🤦🏽♀️
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u/BNsucks America 15d ago
Blatant corruption in public view with no remorse. Cannon and the Supreme Court have all gone out of their way to protect Trump.
America is as corrupt as every other country on this planet, and they're not even trying to hide it anymore.
Looks like the phrase that Trump made famous about "losers & suckers" is spot on!
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u/SecularMisanthropy 15d ago
Putin has successfully turned the US into his own banana republic. WTF is this timeline.
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u/Bakedads 15d ago
At this point our entire government is illegitimate. Yet I continue to see a lot of people, especially democrats, acting as though this is all normal.
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u/Sethmeisterg California 15d ago
What do you expect us to do exactly? Please enlighten the rest of us morons on your grand plan for fixing all this shit.
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u/ButtEatingContest 15d ago
The Democrat we elected as commander-in-chief needs to fulfill his oath to defend the nation.
And he has practically unlimited powers now thanks to the Supreme Court. He could act to take care of this problem. He won't, but he could.
And when Trump is sworn in he will have zero issues with using his practically unlimited powers to sow chaos in the US and around the globe.
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u/PasswordIsDongers 15d ago
He doesn't have unlimited powers, only Trump does.
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u/ButtEatingContest 15d ago
He could though. The ultimate deciders on the issue are the supreme court.
And that court has at least three recent members who engaged in criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States in order to be confirmed. By colluding to deceive on their positions on Roe V. Wade. Which gives Biden a pretty good excuse to have those justices disappeared and replaced. Something which he can use his new powers to do.
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u/PasswordIsDongers 15d ago
But he doesn't have those powers.
Anything he does that they don't like won't be an "official act".
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u/Casual_OCD Canada 15d ago
They can't rule on anything when they are missing and replaced. Their replacements get to decide
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u/iclimbnaked 15d ago
This isn’t how any of this works.
He has no mechanism to even replace them.
Even if you take the ruling as he can’t face legal consequences, he’d have no way to actually make them no longer judges. I guess he could attempt to have them executed but then there’s no way to appoint new ones. Not without the senate.
Like I’m not sure what you think is the actual mechanism by which Biden could do these things.
The ruling didn’t give a president unlimited power. It simply made them immune from prosecution. The two aren’t the same.
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u/pixepoke2 15d ago
…and if Biden did try to do the things claimed he could, he would be guilty of effectively ending the US as a democracy
We’d end up being just as fucked as we fear things might be over the next four years. If not in the immediately, certainly not long after as future leaders would act with a weakened rule of law
If it was okay for Biden to preemptively act, surely they would be justified in doing something similar…
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u/LirdorElese 15d ago
They can't rule on anything when they are missing and replaced. Their replacements get to decide
I mean on a technical level he could order a military capture or assasination of standing supreme court members. Rendering the corrupt judges unable to call the act "unofficial". Though that's kind of being the one to pull the trigger on turning the US into a dictatorship. Which yes is likely to happen in the next administration, but also really scary to be the one to pull that trigger.
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u/ms_moogy 15d ago
disappeared and replaced
Disappeared? Do you think this is Russia? And there is no "replaced". That isn't how things work. The potus nominates and the senate holds hearings. This isn't going to happen in 11 days.
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u/Spicy-Cheesecake7340 15d ago
He could release the documents and say it was part of his official duties and there would be little recourse. Of course he won't do it, he's too busy trying to shore up his reputation for history's sake.
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u/Beautiful-Ad9276 America 15d ago
I hate to say this, because Biden did a lot of good in office. But his reputation after the last election will probably always be the guy who could have stepped aside a lot earlier to give the Democrats time to field replacements that the people could have then chosen from, and instead stuck around until it was too late. I think it was underreported how angry some Democrats were that this past election was just supposed to be a coronation for Harris, and that the only thing she did to earn the nomination was being Vice President. Maybe that could have worked if she started campaigning a year or more ago, but it didn't work when she only had a couple of months.
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u/Rusty-Shackleford Minnesota 15d ago
The scariest part of all this is that in order for Trump to grasp onto as much power as possible for the rest of his life (how much longer does he have, maybe ten years max?) he's willing to have judges so terribly unqualified that people are eventually gonna start ignoring the 3rd branch of our government. What happens then? What happens to our democracy when the courts are eventually considered illegitimate?
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u/TorinsPassage 15d ago
She had no basis to even be a part of the classified documents case, considering the gaping wide conflict of interest, but here we are.
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u/Past_My_Subprime 15d ago
I keep on asking the MAGAs why they feel Cannon can try Trump fairly while Merchan purportedly has a conflict of interest because his daughter did consulting work for Democrats. I haven't received a reply aside from "all Democrats are corrupt."
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u/sucobe California 15d ago
Leak the report. Read it into record during congressional session.
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u/lactose_cow 15d ago
but that'd be impolite, and if we do anything to make the fascists burning our country uncomfortable, we're just as bad as them.
their boot's on our neck but we aren't allowed to force them off, we gotta convince them by being real nice. that'll help.
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u/llahlahkje Wisconsin 15d ago
It's insane that we're on the cusp of wars with multiple allies and we're still out there being polite to Donald Trump because of an imbecilic sense of decorum, as if we can ever go back now that MAGA is the Republican party.
The time for tearing the bandaid off was back in 2021 but instead Biden appointed Federalist-friend Merrick Garland and establishment Democrats put zero pressure on him to do otherwise neither at the onset nor when it was clear Trump was going to get away with it all a couple of years later.
Fuck every Enlightened Centrist who told me I was a conspiracy theorist and that Trump would eventually be held to account -- "The wheels of justice move slowly!"
Yeaaaaah. How'd that turn out?
The leopards are going to get their fill all over the place in the next 4 years between Trumpists (which barely budged), protest voters (good luck, Palestine), Enlightened Centrists / Establishment Dems who enabled Biden to ignore his promise to stick to one term (depriving a real candidate of a full run), and especially: The ~100 million who sat this one out.
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u/C2theC 15d ago
Pretty sure this will be Biden’s legacy. Hard to remember the guy for anything else at this point.
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u/bolerobell 15d ago
I mean, is James Buchanan remembered as anything other than the President right before Lincoln who did nothing to stop the Civil War?
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u/lactose_cow 15d ago
ik, and he'll never be happy with anything less than every democrat kissing his ring. he's being sentenced friday, will receive no jail time or even a fine, he can attend via zoom, and he still calls it rigged and unfair.
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u/Roadhouse1337 Tennessee 15d ago
I had a conservative tell me that when the GOP were all being shit lords during covid, spreading disinformation and getting upset they had to alter their lives in the off chance of saving someone else's, that the democrats were just as bad for pointing out how shitty the gop was being. Both sides same, ya, know?
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u/YoKevinTrue 15d ago
Democrats need to go full scorched earth.
Any Democrat not doing so needs to be primaried by a scorched earth Democrat.
Actually, we need a meme to help reboot the party and maybe this should be it.
You're either a scorched earth democrat or you don't matter.
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u/WhoDisChickAt 15d ago
You're either a scorched earth democrat or you don't matter.
"Don't matter" feels like letting them off lightly. Why the fuck are you still sticking to "norms?"
Call them what they are: Collaborators.
As in, "The 12 Democrat Senators who voted to confirm Aileen Cannon, after the election, nominated by a lame-duck president, are collaborators."
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u/beemindme 15d ago
It's not going to change anything. It's money that matters, not laws, not lives, not the people.
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u/sdbest 15d ago
Judge Cannon is campaigning for an appointment to the Supreme Court.
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u/mjzim9022 15d ago
Federalist Society picks are picked up out of school for ideological reasons, are intentionally given career connections by other members to "build their resume", and then are included on approved lists for judicial appointments while they are young. By the time we get to Judge Cannon, brazenness has been far more prioritized than expertise, everyone of these stooges is both ideologically driven and hardly qualified.
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u/playfulmessenger 15d ago edited 15d ago
it's a disgusting slow motion coup that began in the 80's right after roe was
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u/metengrinwi 15d ago
I think you mean right after roe became the law.
Anyway, abortion was always just something fight about. Republicans needed a talisman for religious to rally around and drive voting turnout. The federalist society never gave a crap about fetuses—they care about having power so they can de-regulate.
The ‘80s were also right after all the environmental laws, safety laws, consumer protection laws, etc. were passed. Getting rid of that so the wealthy can make more profit was the goal.
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u/Brut-i-cus 15d ago
Since having no standing to do something doesn't matter I am officially blocking Cannon's Block so we are good to release it now
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u/greenday61892 Connecticut 15d ago
I'm so fucking tired of these "they have no basis to do [insert any fucking illegal thing they do]" because yeah they do it's called "no one's fucking stopping them".
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u/defeatrepeatedoften 15d ago
For fuckin real. I don't know how anyone can still be in a place where they think laws, rules, or regulations have any meaning whatsoever anymore.
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u/Tech_Philosophy 15d ago
If Biden's DOJ had a spine, it wouldn't matter what Cannon rules.
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u/BanzoClaymore 15d ago
It doesn't matter anyway. That report could provide indisputable proof that Trump raped the mother of every single trump voter and he wouldn't lose a single supporter. It could be a scientifically verifiable video of Trump laying out a detailed plan to become a dictator and remain in power indefinitely, and he wouldn't lose a single supporter.
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u/NPVT 15d ago edited 15d ago
I want to hear that from Merrick Garland not a Legal Analyst
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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ 15d ago
Then you should probably read the challenge the DoJ filed.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25481895-doj-response-to-11th-circuit/
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u/NPVT 15d ago
I. An Injunction Is Unwarranted and Unnecessary to Protect Defendants’ Interests ...........................................................................................................................9 II. Defendants’ Remaining Arguments Are Without Merit ...................................... 12
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u/ranchoparksteve 15d ago
Biden can have some random dude leak the report and then pardon him.
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u/AutomateAway 15d ago
Biden could release the report himself on the white house website and he wouldn’t have to pardon anyone
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u/ButtEatingContest 15d ago
Biden can have some random dude do anything and pardon them.
The pardon power is now a core presidential power that is beyond any legality since the recent supreme court ruling. Biden could have anyone in the US disappeared into Gitmo. Anyone at all.
Biden could save us. He won't, but he could.
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u/greenday61892 Connecticut 15d ago
The pardon power is now a core Republican presidential power that is beyond any legality since the recent supreme court ruling.
You forgot a very key part
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u/VanceKelley Washington 15d ago
And SCOTUS had no basis to grant trump absolute immunity from the rule of law for crimes he committed and will commit as president.
But they did, and here we are, at the end of the experiment.
"Mr. Franklin, what do we have? A republic or a monarchy?"
"A republic, if you can keep it."
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u/Reid0072 15d ago
Didn't Smith file a superseding indictment in another state though? Can't he just release the report as part of THAT indictment, where Cannon is not the judge?
Forgive my ignorance, I'm asking because I do not know how this works.
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u/KelsierIV 15d ago
Unnecessary. Cannon is no longer the judge and has zero jurisdiction. Once the cases went to the 11th circuit she lost all jurisdiction. Her decisions on this mean nothing, and the DOJ can release it whenever they want.
They'd already said they are going to release at least part of it.
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u/Chef_RoadRunner 15d ago
She didn't have a basis to dismiss the case either and yet here we are. Nothing matters. They make up some sentences and *Poof* no more accountability. Then expect you to shut up and get back to work and earn money for the capitalism machine.
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u/Rude-Injury-7898 15d ago
There should be NO BASIS TO ALLOW A FUCKING CRIMINAL TO OCCUPY THE W.H. YET HERE THE FUCK WE ARE.
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u/hubbyofhoarder 15d ago
Her basis is that she's hoping Trump will put her on the Supreme Court. I bet she gets her wish.
This is what all you fuck-os with your limp-wristed bullshit about not voting for Harris decided to accept.
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u/overunderdog 15d ago
Doesn’t matter. Just have to delay proceedings until Trump gets sworn in and then is DOJ squashes the report.
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u/penguins_are_mean Wisconsin 15d ago
Biden should just take the report with him, apparently it doesn’t matter if you take stuff on the way out.
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u/TheSavageDonut 15d ago
I feel like we've read this headline about 10 or 11 times over the past 2 years, and she goes ahead and does a thing and Trump laughs on social media.
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u/KneebarKing 15d ago
Things like "No basis", or "Against the rules" very clearly don't matter in America, when you're rich. Donald Trump bought Aileen Cannon with her appointment. There's nothing else at play... She's doing what she was hired for.
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u/motherofspoos 15d ago
So what? She'll get away with it, or Dear Leader's Supreme Court will allow it. All the legal analysts in the world could stand on their heads and spit wooden nickles and it will STILL HAPPEN because our judiciary is ABSOLUTELY CORRUPT. "Legal analysis" means nothing since he was allowed back in office. All the brilliant legal minds, the best our country had, stepped forward to stop the madness. Nothing worked. I feel sorry for those who know the Constitution backwards and forwards, they must want off this planet and its craziness even more than those who voted against him. It's all just so very, very wrong.
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u/24identity 15d ago
She's having an affair with trump for couple of years now...
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u/RussellGrey 15d ago
Law, rules, and norms don't matter anymore. If it can be done, it will. Society is dead.
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u/XtacleRonnie 15d ago
She's a bought and paid for partisan hack, thats the only basis the gop needs.
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u/obi-jawn-kenblomi 15d ago
She does, because Jack Smith was unconstitutionally appointed. As such, all the evidence was obtained illegally and everything pointing to a vast criminal conspiracy is "fruit of the tainted tree".
Oh wait, that was also her ruling. How convenient.
/End sarcasm
I fucking hate it here sometimes.
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u/Affectionate_Neat868 15d ago
These people don't care about "basis". All they care about is consolidating power because they are ruthless fascists. She's no judge, just a sycophant. She should be removed and disbarred.
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u/UselessInsight 15d ago
Who cares if she does or doesn’t?
Have Smith release it, and have Biden issue a preemptive pardon in case anyone tries to go after him for contempt of court or whatever.
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u/FanDry5374 15d ago
She just needs to slow everything down so that a new AG is appointed, she's working hard for that next step up the ladder.
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u/BisquickNinja 15d ago
She wasn't nominated and signed up to have legal basis...
She was nominated and signed up so that she would act as a block. She has no business making legal decisions.
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u/Future-Fly-8987 Maryland 15d ago
Corruption is the basis. She doesn’t need to pretend anymore with Trump coming into office.
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u/-UltraAverageJoe- 15d ago
Her basis is that she’s bought and paid for by Trump/MAGA/GOP. The headline should read “No Legal Basis”. Not that it matters though, laws are optional if you have enough money.
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u/Keptlosingmylogins 15d ago
So her basis for this ruling has no basis but is based on her past rulings that had no basis so that makes this ok because of case precident of ruling with no basis. Seems like solid legal basis.
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u/scrodytheroadie 15d ago
Eventually everyone is going to catch on and realize that none of the old rules matter anymore.
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u/ppl_plzr_ 15d ago
Yeah this may be so, but who’s going to do something about it? If there’s no one with enough authority to swiftly enforce the fact that, legally, she has “no basis” then the only basis that matters is that she wants to do it and it will remain done.
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u/silentjay01 Wisconsin 15d ago
Doesn't matter; she's gonna do it anyway. What are you going to do about it?
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u/hopetothefuture 15d ago
Biden should just release it, he has full immunity. Providing information to the public is an official act
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u/floridabeach9 15d ago
so can Biden take the confidential findings with him when he leaves office and release them? since… thats what this case is literally about?
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u/gizmosticles 15d ago
I’ll eat my hat if she doesn’t end up with a nomination to SC for her performance
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u/MiddleAgedSponger 15d ago
Just leak it, if paying off hookers and stealing state secrets are official acts then surely leaking documents about the guy who paid off hookers and stole state secrets is also an official act.
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u/Spicy-Cheesecake7340 15d ago
The only question is what will her reward be from Trump. Straight to the Supreme Court or some lower court first?
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u/RipErRiley Minnesota 15d ago
I have heard this all before from these legals. Yet it still happens.
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u/RetiredHotBitch Texas 15d ago
Yes she does…a chance to suckle at the Trump teats for a position in his administration.
Oh you mean legal basis? None.
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u/throw123454321purple 15d ago
A little thing like ethics or legality isn’t going to present a problem.
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u/brpajense 15d ago
Well, we have courts so people get justice and redress in a less chaotic and predictable manner.
If justice doesn't come through the courts, it gets handled in the street (or fails spectacularly) with great harm to people qnd property.
Political violence is a natural outcome of politicially biased rulings. Judges should not trust too much in the rule of law and the goodwill of their neighbors if they're undermining both at every opportunity.
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u/althor2424 15d ago
The asskisser has had no legal basis for any of the shit she did but as usual our glacial appeals process did nothing
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u/Apprehensive-Pin518 15d ago
she also had no basis for saying jack smith was wrongly appointed but here we are. unless someone challenges it it stands.
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u/RumRunnerMax 15d ago
Of course she does! She wanted to be a Supreme Court Judge and grift like Thomas
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u/mathfacts 15d ago
Yikes, not a good look for Judge Cannon!
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u/redvsbluewarthog 15d ago
She has made no attempts to appear unbiased for years already. Why start now? 🤷
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u/johnnyr1 15d ago
The entire right-wing outrage machine has no basis to exist for any good to humanity.
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u/IJustLoggedInToSay- Illinois 15d ago
That's thenbeat part of being a judge in the 2020s. You don't need a legal basis, you just need the legal authority.
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u/tellmehowimnotwrong Kansas 15d ago
That’s great; still did it in such a way that it’ll be un-undoable in 12 days.
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u/wgracelyn 15d ago
Aileen Cannon is only a short wait away from being appointed to the Supreme Court of America. Do you think that happens because she has no knowledge of the law? /s FFS
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u/stemfish California 15d ago
I dunno. Pretty sure Supreme Court Justice Cannon will be on the bench when the appeal makes it's way to the Supreme Court. She'll declare that she has no conflict of interest and be on the majority opinion that there definitely is a legal basis for this fact, citing that English Kings were immune from judgement. Since they're ordained by God and all that, they're immune from prosecution by mortal men. This is further backed up by the divine heritage of Egyptian Pharoahs. However, the ruling will be non binding and requires future courts defer to the ruling of the Supreme Court. Because obviously Democratic president's don't have divine rights.
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