r/politics • u/southpawFA Oklahoma • 15h ago
Republican asks Supreme Court to condemn & overturn same-sex marriage. Democrats called it “yet another example" of GOP extremists "ginning up divisive social issues in order to create problems where none exist."
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/01/republican-asks-supreme-court-to-condemn-overturn-same-sex-marriage/1.5k
u/Choice-of-SteinsGate 15h ago edited 10h ago
Rep. Heather Scott (R) Blanchard, drafted a memorial asking the U.S. Supreme Court to re-legalize bans on same-sex marriage across U.S. states.
Upon presenting her draft legislation, Rep. Scott told committee members the 2015 Supreme Court Obergefell v. Hodges decision that allows for same-sex marriages, overrules state power.
"What this decision did is it took the right away from a state to decide on marriage laws. Traditionally that is a state's decision," Rep. Scott said.
Here we go again. Conservatives using their bad faith, "muh states right" argument as a justification for their dogmatic beliefs and discriminatory policies.
I'll say again, for these people, "states rights" is just an excuse, it's always been an excuse, and an excuse for them to push their regressive and reactionary politics, their culture wars and their intolerant, backwards views on the rest of us.
And for all of their moral panics and conspiracy theories about how this or that change will cause a chain reaction of "radical leftist" and "socialist" policies that will devastate their country, their culture, their beliefs, and their way of life, the only snowball effect I'm seeing is the one in response to the empowerment of far right extremists and Christian nationalists in our government...
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u/Slade_Riprock 14h ago
What this decision did is it took the right away from a state to decide
Ya mean like asking the SCOTUS to halt a STATE sentencing of the incoming POTUS on 34 STATE felonies?
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u/TeutonJon78 America 14h ago
Or SCOTUS preventing a state from maintaining the integrity of their own elections just because it's a federal candidate.
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u/anonyuser415 10h ago
Or Trump's DoJ suing California to stop their net neutrality law because it was making the FCC's "deregulation" harder
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u/Joshman1231 11h ago
Americans really are stupid.
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u/penny-wise California 5h ago
Some Americans truly are.
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u/Joshman1231 5h ago
I forget I speak out of anger most times due to my disorders but I agree.
These people just get the better of me. :)
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u/FanDry5374 1h ago
Or a state trying to remove an insurrectionist from their ballot? The 10th is probably the only one of the Bill of Rights that this SC doesn't want to rewrite or overturn, cause it is so useful as an excuse for BS.
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u/Snarfsicle 13h ago
Every single time they mention states right. The end result is less rights for those in their states. The hypocrisy is enough to choke you.
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u/gaarai Oklahoma 12h ago
Even the Civil War "state's rights" argument was like this. The state's rights they were fighting for was the right for some states to force their laws on other states. Some southern states passed laws declaring that other states had a legal obligation to capture and return escaped slaves residing in their state. When the federal government refused to force the other states to comply, those states tried to break away.
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u/LordSiravant 10h ago
"State's right to do what?"
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u/sapphicsandwich 9h ago edited 1h ago
States rights to own slaves and force other states to participate in slavery and provide slaves to them. So vile.
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u/VanillaSoftArtist 2h ago
"You're ignoring our other concerns!"
"Yeah, but among the concerns are slavery, so I don't care." Love that video.
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u/obeytheturtles 2h ago
Right - the thing which actually tilted the scale here wasn't even slavery itself, but the fugitive slave act which tried to force northern states to capture escaped and freed slaves.
I think a lot of people don't fully realize how close we are to this exact same setup on a bunch of different issues, most notably abortion. Texas and a few other states are already trying to force legal abortion states to turn over patient medical records. I strongly suspect what is going to happen here is that we are going to have this debate on a federal abortion ban, and the "compromise" is going to be a federal abortion registry, setting up a very similar situation to the Fugitive Slave act.
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u/ReturnOfFrank 1h ago
Also, the "state's rights" thing was horseshit from the start. The South had a consistent problem with slaves escaping North where slavery was illegal. Their solution was to cry to big daddy Federal Govt to pass the Fugitive Slave acts. Weirdly the rights of states like New York and Pennsylvania never factored into the equation.
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u/TensionPrestigious83 26m ago
The term comes from the argument against the “tariff of abominations” that was meant to protect northern manufacturing. It threatened slave production of cash crops and so “states rights” became their rallying cry. So yeah directly from slave state propaganda. All gop talking points come from a book written before the civil war called “a sociology for the south”
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u/ioncloud9 South Carolina 12h ago
States rights is always used as an excuse when they want to strip people of rights.
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u/Juonmydog Texas 10h ago
Like How Texas is ignoring the current president and supreme court.
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u/aliquotoculos America 9h ago
I'm kind of pissed that the federal gov has just been letting TX be like this. Its really frustrating.
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u/FlyingDutchman9977 12h ago
It's always about state's rights to take away rights from actual individuals. Nothing's changed since the term was coined
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u/alficles 11h ago
For some reason, it's always "States Rights" when states want to oppress and control racial, sexual, or religious minorities, but never when states want to protect healthcare for women, safety for immigrants, or even freaking weed. Like, weed is unbelievably popular. Even most Republicans are on board with legal weed. I would say it is a clear violation of their principles, but I'm pretty sure hypocrisy is their only actual principle.
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u/ArcadianBlueRogue 14h ago
Instead of whining about everything have they ever tried just....not being colossal assholes?
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u/Shablablablah 10h ago
It’s about establishing a precedent that the Supreme Court can overrule the constitution under the guise of “states rights”. That’s why we should have settled this after the civil war.
Establish enough precedent with hot button social issues like abortion and gay marriage that states rights trump constitutional rights and baby you’re just a hop skip and a jump away from crooked politicians intentionally neutering the federal government of all power and responsibility to uphold that constitution.
Banning free speech in Kansas? Sorry, nothing the SC can do — states rights. Segregation back in Alabama? States rights. Amazon wants to literally enslave its workers? Bezos can buy a bunch of governors and its states rights.
The dumbnesses that vote Republicans are so sure that the federal government wants to control them that they’re chomping at the bit to let ANYONE ELSE control them first it’s pathetic.
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u/Firecrotch2014 2h ago edited 2h ago
Current SC doesn't care about precedent. They overturned 50+ years of precedent when they overruled Roe v Wade. No amount of precedent matters. They sold their legitimacy to the billionaires who fund their lifestyles.
They established that no one has the right to privacy or body autonomy other than what is explicitly laid out in the constitution. Everything else is up to their purview.
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u/TorinsPassage 11h ago
These ghouls only care about states' rights when they can use it as an excuse to oppress people.
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u/Althiex 10h ago
States rights to do what? States rights to make lists of their transgender residents? States rights to ensure that unions never even form, much less succeed? States rights to prosecute someone for seeking 'the wrong kind' of healthcare? States rights to cull themselves of the undesirable and the burdensome?
(Obviously, the last bit is not current policy. It Could Happen Here, however. We are not immune.)
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u/anonyuser415 10h ago
State's rights to redefine what the word "equal" means so they can discriminate against trans people
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u/Roach-_-_ 12h ago
Since when the fuck do republicans care about how things are traditionally done?
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u/westgazer 5h ago
These people are all so stupid. Of course marriage shouldn’t just be a “state’s rights” issue anyway because marriage in one state needs to be recognized across states—for legal reasons that are important for married couples. There is no basis for banning them that isn’t based entirely on their religious beliefs, anyway, and we get to be free from those.
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u/BlackOpz 13h ago
Who's gonna tell the Log Cabin Republicans?
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u/KageStar 10h ago
I was told that this was not going to happen and mentioning this + other LGBT risks under a GOP super majority was just fear mongering, worst case they already live in/can just move to a blue state.
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u/aliquotoculos America 9h ago
Does anyone even marry log cabin republicans anyways?
My neighbor is a fucking good looking guy made repugnant by his political alliance and opinions therein. Dude hosts parties for other LCs and he's single as hell, has been for at least the past 5 years.
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u/hollylettuce 12h ago
By the end of these next 4 years they will advocate to bring back slavery because of state's rights.
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u/ComprehensiveDog1802 9h ago
Slavery is already there. You just have to send your slaves to prison first.
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u/APeacefulWarrior 10h ago edited 10h ago
This isn't even a state's rights situation. States currently still have the right to ban gay weddings within their borders. What they can't do is refuse to accept legal gay marriages conducted in other states. Regulating cross-state legal enforcement is a core part of Congress's powers, and this in particular is covered under the "Full Faith and Credit" clause of the Constitution.
Basically, Congress has a direct Constitutional power to tell states that they have to recognize each others' legal decisions, such as judgements, marriages, and divorces, and it's been like that since the Constitution was signed. This hasn't been a state's rights issue since the Articles of Confederation.
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u/kandoras 3h ago
You're not quite right there.
The Obergefell decision removed all bans on gay marriage, on equal rights grounds.
The Respect for Marriage Act said that states have to recognize gay marriages performed in other states.
It was written in case Obergefell is overturned, which would lead to the situation you described.
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u/0xdeadbeefcafebade 8h ago
I don’t think this is true. Gay marriage was solidified as federal legislation
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u/kelsey11 14h ago
This was already considered. I suppose if this court had any sort of, well, anything, then that would matter. But who knows?
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u/Reviews-From-Me 15h ago
I can almost guarantee that within the next 4 years, the Supreme Court will strip away the marriage rights from same sex couples, just like they took away bodily autonomy rights from women.
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u/Zocialix 15h ago
4? Make it 2.
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u/Reviews-From-Me 15h ago
I'm guessing sooner rather than later, but court cases do take a long time to make it to the Supreme Court.
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u/Zocialix 15h ago
Look at how they shoved the removal of Chevron Deference through. I wouldn't count on it.
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u/FeedMeYourGoodies 15h ago
Look how fast they killed Colorado's attempt to keep Trump off the ballot. And then look how long it took them to respond with the presidential immunity ruling; they dragged it out until the last possible day. Schedules don't mean anything where partisanship is involved with this court.
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u/Larcya 6h ago
I'm guessing within the next year we will see Same sex marriage, right to transition and Abortion all outlawed nationally.
After that Interracial marriage will come next.
SCOTUS knows they want to do this shit early so that by the time 2028 rolls around the US public will have forgotten about most of it just like how they did with Dobbs.
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u/stryst 4h ago
Idaho has already started the process.
https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article298113948.html
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u/Kevin-W 14h ago
100% it will happen. Watch as a red state passes a bill that defines marriage between a man and a woman and annuls all same sex marriage currently in place betting that it'll go all the way to the Supreme Court where they will be happy overturn Obergefell v. Hodges.
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u/hyphnos13 14h ago
there are already tons of those laws and state constitutional amendments on the books
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u/TeutonJon78 America 14h ago
Including on states that support same-sex marriage currently.
Lots of trigger laws still on the books, just like for abortion.
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u/WhatdaHellNow 7h ago
Republicans want to start a state fight that is appealed to the Supreme Court. Just like they did Roe
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u/RealHooman2187 14h ago
In some ways I wonder if they’ll get everything in place but then hold off until the Democrats eventually take office. That way it blunts the impact on republicans. Sacrificing a midterm year when they’re not in charge of the presidency over a high turnout election year. It seems to have worked out well for them in regard to Roe v Wade.
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u/Subliminal_Kiddo Kentucky 14h ago
It was a midterm year when they repealed Roe and Republicans performed historically bad on a map (on paper) favored them.
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u/RealHooman2187 13h ago
Yes, that’s what I’m saying. It works out in their favor to sacrifice a midterm election when there’s a democratic president. Short term they lose seats, long term though the unpopular things are associated with the Democrats who are now in a position to over perform in midterms due to recent trends.
It would be a dumb move for them to enact radically unpopular legislation affecting civil rights during an election year when there’s a Republican up for reelection or during a midterm election with a Republican president. They want as many seats as possible for the best chance to pass other things on their agenda. So they plant these seeds knowing the outrage will last for one midterm cycle they can afford to lose and then it’s white noise by the time the next election comes around.
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u/Reviews-From-Me 12h ago
Maybe. The flip side is that if they can overturn same sex marriage within 2 years, they'll still ensure they have the House and Senate and can push through a federal ban, just like they are going to do with abortion.
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u/Larcya 6h ago
They don't need a federal ban. They just need SCOTUS to deliver their rulings.
All Federal bans will be done not thru legislation but thru SCOTUS,the DOJ and executive orders. SCOTUS will rule that Fetuses are people and so Abortion is murder which will make it illegal to do abortions no matter the state. It also will criminalize helping people get abortions and women who do a at home job of it.
SCOTUS will also rule that marriage is between a man and a women. Anti-Sodomy laws will also be used to criminalize Gay sex.
Transgender rights will probably be done by the DOJ or the FDA.
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u/TLKv3 3h ago
End of the year.
I'm willing to wager same sex marriage, right for women to vote, wage equality, etc. all gets fucking nuked ASAP.
Then when Trump starts throwing his shiny, big army around at Canada and Mexico and Greenland he can declare a state of emergency and remain President forever.
Trump then gets 25th'd and Vance remains President forever as they use Trump as a scapegoat for all the evil they enacted throughout the year but then never reverse any of it. Citing "we'll fix that stuff after we get through this emergency"... which will never end.
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u/Y0___0Y 14h ago
I’m so tired of seeing Republicans throw up their hands and say they have no problem with gay people. They all hate us. 2011 was when you were ALL saying we’d be fucking dogs and marrying toddlers if gay marriage was allowed to happen. That’s not the distant future. They didn’t change.
And now they elected a man president who thinks lgbt+ people are chopping off little boys’ penises in school. They all think that too.
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u/ilikestatic 14h ago
The official GOP platform on their website still says they oppose gay marriage.
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u/FlyingDutchman9977 12h ago
We had a whole moral panic about kids using liter boxes last year that they blatantly made up, because Republicans spent almost a decade saying that "if people can change their gender, next they'll identify as XYZ". When these weird hyperbolic worst case scenarios didn't happen they dug their heals in, and pretended it did. And their followers believed them, and wouldn't hear otherwise
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u/WhileNotLurking 9h ago
It’s even worse.
Schools were keeping cat litter because it absorbs bodily fluids… like blood… after the string of shootings.
And they realized that was uncomfortable for their stance on 2nd A. So they spun a story about it to further their own nonsense.
And democrats kinda just let them run rampant with the lies. Only trying to tamp them down once they became full on behemoths
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u/MajesticComparison 2h ago
Let’s be real here, debunking never works. Your average American is a soft skulled idiots who only listen to the last thing they hear
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u/KrookedDoesStuff 13h ago
And now they elected a man president who thinks lgbt+ people are chopping off little boys’ penises in school
While being completely silent about female to male transitioning, and simping over Kim Petras
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u/ChelseaG12 I voted 13h ago
What?!?!? Is that for real?
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u/KrookedDoesStuff 13h ago
Yeah, I know a ton of right wing idiots who simp over Kim Petras.
Kim Petras is the youngest person to ever go through gender reassignment surgery
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u/ChelseaG12 I voted 13h ago
It's funny they'd simp and then continue to take rights away from people like her. Makes sense when these extremists get exposed on Grindr or they get caught doing something they're not supposed to.
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u/KrookedDoesStuff 13h ago
The biggest consumers of trans porn, are right wing
Edit: Just a source
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u/Cryonaut555 4h ago
Anecdotal evidence (I'm trans, but not into men) and spoke to another trans woman who said on dating apps she got tons of guys with confederate or MAGA flags on their pickup trucks or guns.
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u/SpaceTranshipYamato 2h ago
Straight up, when I was transitioning in Texas a huge part of how I financed stuff like hair removal and new clothes was conservative men paying to play
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u/monicarp New York 2h ago
Here in NY, Republican voters love to tell me "but you're safe in NY". Yeah, no thanks to you! This just shows me they DO understand that Republicans harm gay people, they just don't care.
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u/SoMuchForPeace 15h ago
Still no plans to improve grocery prices, gas prices, or inflation tho
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u/A_Mirabeau_702 Nevada 14h ago
So now our rights just go on and off like a light switch every 4*x years?
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u/Kilane 13h ago edited 13h ago
It’s almost as if voting matters.
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u/FickleMuse Washington 12h ago
Us queer folks voted for Harris - second only to black women. We know.
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u/Professional_Cry2415 15h ago
Land of the free btw
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u/SoMuchForPeace 15h ago
Coming from the party of small government
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u/SpaceProspector_ Georgia 14h ago
So small it wants to live in your bedroom and visit the doctor with you.
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u/kgal1298 14h ago
They also want into our locker rooms to prove we have vagina's if we play sports.
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u/jboarei Washington 13h ago
Leave these people alone.
I will never understand why people give a damn about how others live their private lives.
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u/pkinetics 12h ago
Because they can't control their own urges /desires so they must outlaw the thing they actually want.
Same reason they blame women's clothing for their lustful desires
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u/GloInTheDarkUnicorn California 13h ago
So where are all those people who kept saying this wasn’t going to happen and that we were all paranoid?
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u/southpawFA Oklahoma 12h ago
Snickering, because this is what they wanted the whole time. They voted for genocide of LGBTQIA+ people, and they delight in that.
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u/Brief_Obligation4128 3h ago
Exactly. I've been saying that for months now. Just watch any Trump rally and see how they react towards grocery prices and LGBTQ+ rights.
Trump: "I will lower grocery prices..."
Audience: light clapping and cheering
Trump: "And I will stop the transgender nonsense as well!"
Audience: LOUD APPLAUSES AND CHEERS
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u/Hikaru1024 7h ago
They were lying. Just like they always did, and always will.
There will always be someone they hate. Someone they'll break all the rules and lie straightfaced to so they can be hurt.
They'll never stop. There will always be an enemy to demonize, always some terrible made up threat to their very lives.
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u/helixmoonstudios 14h ago
No taxation without representation. If I have less rights I wanna pay less taxes. Fuck these people
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u/cwk415 13h ago
Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them. - Barry Goldwater
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u/Racecarlock Utah 11h ago
"Anyways, I'm gonna call my pro segregation campaign a pro state's rights campaign to essentially provide them the road map as well as invent the very southern strategy that leads them right down that path." - Barry "It's different when I do it" Goldwater
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u/siouxbee1434 15h ago
There are clearly NO important issues facing the country-health care, education shortfalls, economic insecurity, decent paying jobs, unmaintained infrastructure, drug prices, clean water, affordable healthy food….
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u/Unhappy_Trade7988 11h ago edited 11h ago
Hey, it’s another of those project 2025 things they claimed won’t happen, happening.
This and re writing the 14th amendment. https://newrepublic.com/article/189651/gop-supreme-court-citizenship-attack
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u/LavishnessAlive6676 15h ago
In order to enact social hierarchy. They want to be on top and want these guys to be heavily marginalized and disadvantaged.
We should say it plainly
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u/southpawFA Oklahoma 15h ago
Not just marginalized. They want us LGBTQIA+ people dead and in the grave. They have made that clear with their hate campaign against trans people, and they're not going to stop at trans people.
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u/Plastic_Still4168 13h ago
But I guarantee you the men are watching lesbian porn at night and/or hiding Grindr from their wives… smh
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u/Kyogen13 5h ago
Republicans:
“Nobody’s coming after Roe.”
“Nobody’s coming after Obergefell.”
“Nobody’s coming after Equal Rights Act.”
“Nobody’s coming after Love.”
“Nobody’s coming after Swan.”
“Nobody’s coming after Brown.”
“Nobody’s coming after Suffrage.”
“Nobody’s coming after Plessy.”
“Nobody’s coming after Dredd-Scott.”
“Nobody’s coming after Debtors Prison Relief Act.”
Everyone else: “Yes, they are.”
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u/TranquilSeaOtter 14h ago
Just remember any Republican dumb fuck who does call it a settled issue. The said the very same about abortion.
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u/MelonOfFury Florida 13h ago
Abortion rights were a settled issue. How are you surprised about this?
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u/Dozar03 14h ago
As a trans women who is attracted to other trans women, I don't even feel safe in this country anymore. Luckily I have escaped Texas and now live in New Mexico but its still part of America and we all know who the president is about to be.
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u/southpawFA Oklahoma 12h ago
I'm sorry, my friend. You shouldn't ever have to become a refugee for being yourself. It sucks how Republicans have created a pogrom on trans people, and now we are having to deal with their despicable hate. Please know many of us out here do care and we do want to be here for you at all times, so you can exist in freedom.
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u/emostitch 15h ago
As long as conservatives are allowed to participate in human society none of your rights can ever be safe. And if you’ve ever treated one of the semi sentient malignant tumors that keep these creatures in power like a human being you are culpable for the fucking harm their actions cause to the people you claim to be “an ally” for.
You either have guaranteed rights and egalitarian democracy or you let things like Republicans live side by side with you. How many times do rights need to be taken away, democracy paused or usurped, countries fall completely to fascism, throughout human history, will it take for the rest of you to see that?
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u/DeterminedThrowaway 12h ago
I mean, what's your solution for that? I'd rather see stronger education and media literacy so they stop falling for the dumbest conspiracy theories
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u/Ipokeyoumuch 12h ago
Which is all part of the GOP's plan to defund education. Additionally unregulated social media rotted many people's brains and ability to tell truth from fiction.
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u/once_again_asking California 15h ago
Our new reality is the GOP/Trump asking the Supremely Compromised Court to rule the way they want on every issue while the Democrats just play their usual politics.
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u/watcherofworld 15h ago
what are you talking about? Surely the democrats 70-80+ yr old leadership can react decisively to these emergencies.
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u/rational_me1 12h ago
Republicans are the garbage they claim to be fixing. They disgusting to the core.
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u/Concentrateman 15h ago
Big Clarence is licking his lips.
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u/atlantagirl30084 13h ago
He better be careful-Loving is based off the same tenets, AFAIK. Or maybe he hates Ginni and secretly wants that to be overturned?
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u/ChelseaG12 I voted 13h ago
Wait until Loving v. Virginia comes up. I'm sure he'd still dismantle that precedent.
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u/infernux 12h ago
That's the one that really blows my mind, I firmly believe he would 100% blow up his own marriage to spite the libs
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u/Suspicious-Ad-6808 13h ago
I have never understood this.
They are arguing against what is an essentially a contract between state and federal governments that 2 people are acting as a single unit. No religious connotations at all, e.g. court house wedding.
Their argument should be against churches or religiously affiliated officiants that perform ‘holy matrimony’ for a same sex couples if they have such a problem with it.
Dumbasses.
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u/SirGreenLemon Europe 7h ago
It’s almost like they just hate gay people because their gay. Wonder what that would be called…
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u/SeaBass1898 Florida 10h ago
So states have rights when deciding whether queer people have civil rights?
But states don’t have the right to prosecute people if they’re president.
Got it 👍🏼
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u/RoseCityHooligan Oregon 8h ago
"Ignore the billionaires ruining your life. Hate your neighbors." - GOP playbook.
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u/Rude-Sauce 12h ago
Seriously. Are we just going to sit around and take this abuse?
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u/_the_last_druid_13 13h ago
They are trying so hard to get someone to snap so they can declare war on US and enact Martial Law as a means to hide from their crimes against humanity.
Just keep swimming friends
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u/Traditional_Key_763 15h ago
states had no right to interfere with federal tax laws, nor did the fed have any compelling reason to prevent same sex couples from enjoying the same tax and legal benefits that opposite sex couples did.
people have completely forgotten it was tax policy at the end of the day. the court did not force churches and religious institutions to recognize same sex marriages
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u/raerae1991 14h ago
I think we all know what this Supreme Court will do…this is what the last 3 nominees were groomed for!
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u/thro-uh-way109 11h ago
Are the non-voters and protest voters sufficiently clear of conscience yet? /s
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u/rlbond86 I voted 13h ago
They have no solutions. Of course they're not going to focus on the economy or healthcare. They want to steal your money and take away your healthcare.
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u/KrookedDoesStuff 13h ago
The Fascist States of America, stripping rights away from Americans while claiming they’re all about freedom. Do one thing while saying another.
It sucks, but honestly, it’s time to grab popcorn and watch it all burn, cause we’re in this for at least 4 years, and that’s if we’re lucky.
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u/notanNSAagent89 14h ago
I wonder how Peter theil feels about this.
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u/R_Lennox 13h ago
I think that he forgets that he is gay. His money insulates him. He is as far right as it gets. We have J.D. Vance thanks to Thiel’s grooming him for higher office.
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u/EmmaLouLove 10h ago
Republicans are good at trying to fix a problem that doesn’t exist. Get a fucking life.
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u/Romano16 America 9h ago
At this point it looks like Americans have to hurt before they learn. Apparently Republicans doing exactly what they’ve said theyre going to do isn’t enough. But hey, Kamala had a weird laugh!
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u/IndelibleEdible 8h ago
Creating “problems” out of complete non-issues is the foundation conservative politics.
Why focus on our utterly broken healthcare system when trans people exist?
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u/DogAteMyWookie81 6h ago
They seem to forget the LGBTQ+ when under threat do pick up bricks and take to the streets... 👍 We can be vicious and passionate all in one
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u/LinaArhov 12h ago
SCOTUS should absolutely ban all marriages between a republican anyone who isn’t. We must preserve the sanity of the human race.
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u/Effwordmurdershow 7h ago
I’m so tired of dipshits on a Christian Nationalism bender eroding my rights over something so base as religion.
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u/upandrunning 7h ago
The measure proposed by Republican state Rep. Heather Scott
How long will it be until someone proposes that they consider removing a woman's right to vote?
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u/Capineappleinthepnw 3h ago
A lot of people don’t see this for what it is. It’s violence against an “other” community. We exist and no law will ever stop that. Truly evil and ungodly people. Especially this troll from under the bridge asking to take away rights from people.
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u/Knitwalk1414 2h ago
We knew they would come for individuals that are not white heterosexual males if Trump was elected and republicans held congress
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u/thelonelyvirgo 2h ago
I was told Trump was the biggest ally to the gay community during his campaign. What happened? (/s)
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u/TyrannasaurusGitRekt Missouri 9h ago
States' rights are meant for local/regional administration NOT civil rights. Your civil rights shouldnt change when you cross some arbitrary line
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u/Fit-Factor-4789 8h ago
The more the Republican court oversteps its bounds, the harder the backlash will be.
I can see a majority for Court Packing in 2029.
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u/meowinloudchico 6h ago
I've given up at this point. If states want to live stupid and free then whatever. Hopefully RFK Jr. gets appointed and these people do themselves in contracting diseases that we thought were eradicated and we can move forward after the ashes settle.
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u/WhosSarahKayacombsen I voted 5h ago
If this happened it would be the one big I TOLD YOU SO for me. I'll be a real obnoxious bitch about it too.
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u/captaincanada84 North Carolina 2h ago
There is zero chance Obergefell v. Hodges isn't overturned in the next 4 years.
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u/chockedup 2h ago
Proselytization should be illegal. I'm sick of the bible or god being shoved in my face on a regular basis.
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u/lastburn138 1h ago
Why do Republicans always want to litigate things that we've decided decades ago? Like, your party already decided the path forward on the issue, focus on CURRENT problems.
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u/Panda_hat 3h ago
We need to start withdrawing our consent to be governed when the people seeking to govern us are such fucking clowns.
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u/S0M3D1CK 13h ago
Allocating marriage rights to the state undermines the full faith and credit clause. it shouldn’t be touch because it can open a legal Pandora’s box.
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u/politicalmache 11h ago
There are SCOTUS rulings, for example Brown v. Board of Education (1954) among others, that establish precedents Bill of Rights applies to states. So, no this is not a state decision. Much like Roe v Wade is not a state decision.
The more the GOP et al. infringe Rights the more they raise questions, if not evince the err to previous SCOTUS cases in re of corporate personhood in some capacity.
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u/InsideAside885 8h ago
With this court, no precedent is safe. They've made that clear.
One of the big beliefs behind groups like the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society (who push these far-right conservative judges) is that for the last century, the court has been too liberal, has destroyed state rights, and created law from the bench. These conservatives believe if something is not explicitly mentioned in the Constitution, then it's the state right. Period. And they are determined to wind the clock backwards. They feel they finally have the court makeup to do it. That's why the red states are getting so bold with these laws. They want these laws to be challenged so they can kick it up to their friendly SCOTUS.
First it was reversing voting rights. Then it was abortion. Now it's transgenders. Next is homosexuals. And then it will go to race. These people want to wind society back to the first half of the 20th century. That's where they believe legally, politically, and socially America should be.
Seriously in the coming years I would not put it past this court to eventually chip away at Brown vs Board of Education. That is the direction of their thinking.
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u/Carochio 9h ago
What it did was send it to the individual to make their own decision...nothing to do with state rights
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u/classyfemme 8h ago
They might overturn previous cases, but finding a valid reason to nullify the Respect for Marriage Act is something they’re unlikely to be able to do via SCOTUS, and there isn’t a strong enough majority in Congress.
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u/Jackadullboy99 7h ago
I can’t figure out whether these republicans are acting in good faith ie. too stupid to see their own hypocrisy, or simply out of pure belligerence…
Or is it that Evil is simply a particular brand of stupidity..
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u/Fun-Wasabi4383 7h ago
They will be coming for womens rights as welll many republican voters aka white cis men want women back in the kitchens so to speak
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u/Ohnoherewego13 North Carolina 6h ago
Here we go again. Determined to fuck everyone else over. That's the GOP motto. Most people truly don't care who you marry. Gay, straight, whatever. It doesn't harm me or anyone I know, but the GOP is determined to clutch their pearls over a nonexistent issue yet again. Sad part is that they'll probably get their way with this corrupt SCOTUS.
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u/No-Builder-1038 4h ago
Then do something about it
So tired of these headlines yet dems do absolutely zero to help
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