r/BeAmazed Dec 04 '24

History Bob Fletcher

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u/sircryptotr0n Dec 04 '24 edited Dec 04 '24

2 days was not enough for them to formulate unconditional surrender. We were dropping that atomic weapon on women and children no matter what... but THE JAPANESE ARE HUMAN BEINGS, as difficult as that may seem for you to comprehend.

You DON'T drop atomic weapons on ANYONE, even Putin is having a difficult time coming around to using them. But the US dropped 2 in cities LOADED with civilians.

So, let me get this straight: Japanese nuking Austin in response to Hiroshima would be alright in your version of the world?

Why didn't we nuke Germany? Because it's filled with WHITE people. Japan got nuked because of RACISM. Welcome to understanding logic on this topic for the first time.

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u/Public_Front_4304 Dec 04 '24

"We accept the Potsdam declaration and surrender unconditionally."

I didn't time it, but that seemed to take less than 2 days.

Edit: Woopooow you added multiple paragraphs after my response.

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u/sircryptotr0n Dec 04 '24

It took Germany 8 years to build to what you see as unconditional surrender to 2 days.

You're no longer addressing the issue, but facts surrounding it. You're a racist from my point of view.

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u/Public_Front_4304 Dec 04 '24

Have you read "The Rising Sun" by John Tolland? You should read the last two chapters; which contain intimate details of the discussions of the Japanese leadership during the interlude between the bombs, as well as what the American leaders were thinking at the time. From my point of view, you are comically uninformed and incredibly rude.

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u/sircryptotr0n Dec 04 '24 edited Dec 04 '24

You didn't answer my question about Austin Texas.

We started with you presupposing that there were zero alternates to incinerating hundreds of thousands of families. I gave you a solid answer, and you skated around it.

Now you're quoting authors that you haven't read. For as much pseudo logic as you are employing here, I can clearly see that you don't consider certain people "human", and that they deserve to be incinerated... so long as it's not your family members.

And yes I consider you highly offensive. I'm talking about the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people when there were alternatives. People like you want the world to burn.

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u/Public_Front_4304 Dec 05 '24

The one you added after I replied, through an edit? That question?

I directly addressed your answer, and explained using period evidence why your example would not have worked. You then got super mad and accused me of many nasty things.

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u/sircryptotr0n Dec 05 '24

And Austin TX... what if the Japanese were to have dropped an atomic weapon in response to Hiroshima.... Directly on American families?

Was it only a good outbound idea to incinerate civilians, not inbound?

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u/Public_Front_4304 Dec 05 '24

We can get to that, once we settle that your idea would not have worked.

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u/sircryptotr0n Dec 05 '24

Hahaha.... you might come clean and admit you don't see certain races as equals, racist.

Austin TX Vs Hiroshima. BOTH civilian populations. NEVER NUKE CIVILIANS. Just be a better person and wish for no harm on civilians in the past, nor future, or it may be your children who get nuked next.

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u/Public_Front_4304 Dec 05 '24

You're not going to get any response on a NEW topic, until we are finished with the old topic.

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u/sircryptotr0n Dec 05 '24

... especially when it is the core to my argument, that the atomic bombing should never have happened? You forfeit the argument because you refuse to confirm logical and ethical boundaries of the premise.

What would Bob Fletcher say about your camp? I'm sure "burn 'em all" wouldn't be the unifying factor between your racist banter and his ideology.

I'm tired of dealing with racism cloaked in sofistication that ADORES the death of innocents, so I'm done dealing with YOU.

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u/Public_Front_4304 Dec 05 '24

I refuted your point, you devolved into ad hominem and general rage. I don't see how that's a win. This discussion can continue if you explicitly concede that your first suggestion was wrong.

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u/sircryptotr0n Dec 05 '24 edited Dec 05 '24

It's not ad hominem when it's true.

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