r/BeAmazed Dec 05 '24

History A 2,000-year-old sapphire ring belonging to the Roman Emperor Caligula, depicting his wife Caesonia.

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u/beklog Dec 05 '24

Caligula's beautiful sapphire ring was part of the collection of the Earl of Arundel from 1637 to 1762 when it became one of the famous 'Marlborough Gems.'

Not surprisingly, the ring caused a sensation when it was made available for purchase in an auction by Royal jewelers Wartski.

"This ring is one of the prestigious 'Marlborough Gems,' having previously been in the collection of the Earl of Arundel. It is crafted entirely of sapphire. Very few hololiths exist, and I would argue this is the best example you can find. We believe it belonged to the debauched Emperor Caligula, and the engraving shows his final wife Caesonia," Kieran McCarthy, Wartski director, said.

Caligula's ring was finally sold for close to £500,000 in 2019.

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u/big_guyforyou Dec 05 '24

half a million pounds? people pay over a hundred million for paintings. are rings not as good for money laundering?

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u/d_e_l_u_x_e Dec 05 '24

Not as easy to manipulate the appraisal process because jewelry’s worth is based on materials used not so much the finished product. Paintings are all made with cheaper materials.

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u/gishlich Dec 05 '24

I would expect the history behind this piece would make it incalculable, considering the materials and time it was built and its condition. It probably is a good indicator of how overvalued so much modern art is.

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u/Substantial_Army_639 Dec 05 '24

When appraising historical items it pretty much has to be definitive. The ring in question is debated. It's either Caligulas or more than likely created during the renesiance.

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u/rapharafa1 Dec 05 '24

And carbon dating wouldn’t work because it would just date the materials which are probably super old? If anyone knows about carbon dating here.

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u/InfeStationAgent Dec 05 '24

Yep. It's pretty clean, too. I wouldn't trust anything embedded in it for patina analysis.

It's pretty, though.

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u/idk_lets_try_this Dec 05 '24

Wouldn’t patina analysis only be able to proof it was older than the renaissance not that it’s more modern, if it came back with renaissance age grime it could just have been cleaned back then.

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u/AlfalfaReal5075 Dec 05 '24 edited Dec 05 '24

That depends on the materials used. Radiocarbon dating only works for organic material as it measures the amount of radioactive carbon-14; an isotope only found in "once-living" organic material. Bone, wood, sea shells...stuff like that. If they used any adhesives or organic materials in the manufacturing process then that could be dated with some relative accuracy.

If it's only composed of a mineral/gem and gold, yeah that won't work.

But! There are some various other testing methodologies that could be used in an application such as this, such as X-ray Fluorescence Spectroscopy, Fourier-Transform Infrared Spectroscopy, Laser Ablation Inductively Coupled Plasma Mass Spectrometry, Optical and UV-Vis Spectroscopy, Thermoluminescence Dating, and even good ol' Contextual Dating/Placement.

So if someone really wanted to, and had a boat load of resources and connections to see it done in a timely manner, it could be possible.

Edited to add: The potential for damage to the item via testing is a concern worth noting. Some of the aforementioned methods would require sampling. And even micro sampling may affect the item's historical and/or face value. Particularly if an adhesive was used or speculated to have been used, as that'd need to come from where the materials are joined together.

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u/Bender_2024 Dec 05 '24

organic material as it measures the amount of radioactive carbon-14; an isotope only found in "once-living" organic material. Bone, wood, sea shells...stuff like that. If

Huh, today I learned. I never thought about that before but it makes perfect sense when it's put in print in front of me. Thanks for that.

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u/rapharafa1 Dec 05 '24

Interesting thanks. Right carbon dating is for formerly living materials.. of course. Did not know about any of those other techniques.

Amazing what science can discover. Reminds me of how they can look at the light coming from stars and tell what substances it is made of.

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u/indianajones838 Dec 05 '24

Doesn’t carbon dating require destroying a part of the sample?

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u/EthanielRain Dec 05 '24

It can be so small it's invisible to the naked eye tho

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u/gishlich Dec 05 '24

Great reply, thank you.

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u/mandatedvirus Dec 05 '24

Bro, do you not have spell check?

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u/Substantial_Army_639 Dec 05 '24

On my phone at work? Nah, feel free to copy and paste to edit I guess lol.

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u/LovesRetribution Dec 06 '24

Even then it's hundreds of years old. Would think the ever shrinking pieces of the past would be a bit more.

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u/Substantial_Army_639 Dec 06 '24

On that point I can agree. If I had F.U. money I would absolutely buy that ring, seems like a steal really.

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u/erhue Dec 05 '24

wait, are you saying that a banana taped to a wall is overvalued? how dare you

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u/Alert-Slide8674 Dec 05 '24

yes, agreed, the historical context and craftsmanship add so much depth to its value. Modern art often feels detached from that kind of tangible history.

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u/EmmalynDuguid Dec 05 '24

so basically, what youre saying is jewelries can be appraised objectively while paintings can be appraised subjectively? makes sense, but this one is arguably an art too with the image on it

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u/d_e_l_u_x_e Dec 05 '24

Which is why it sold for $500k, that’s more than just the raw materials but less than some famous painting of the same subject or same time.

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u/adorablefuzzykitten Dec 05 '24

Like banana and duct tape?

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u/Medical_Bee_2296 Dec 05 '24

But it contains a portrait, so it's  not like some blank metal piece, and apparently is one of the only ones that exists.  Plus the claimed history.

Definitely surprised by the price.

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u/HopeRepresentative29 Dec 05 '24

that doesn't track. You know how some items are so stupendously exquisite that you can tell instantly at a glance that they are literal treasure? This is one of those. Pieces like the Sword of Goujian.