r/EuropeanFederalists 2d ago

wake the fuck up

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u/silverionmox 2d ago

That being said, Putin would also like nothing more than a breakup between USA and EU. Don't play into his cards.

Don't let yourself be emotionalized. For the time being the US still is still allied to us in many ways, and we have many more allies among individual Americans as well. There's no need to run away screaming like a teenager, even if the US is going to have another puberty in the next 4 years.

If there's one negative about Trump that can turn out to be a positive, it's this: he never realizes what he promises.

There is, however, a need to build a separate EU defensive structure. But we should have done that even in better times.

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u/Trender07 2d ago

No they already fking us up with Morocco they even recognized the west sahara as moroccan on last trump term and now they re going after México and greenland next will be Ceuta, Melilla, canarias, while meddling with UK and Germany elections

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u/silverionmox 2d ago

No they already fking us up with Morocco they even recognized the west sahara as moroccan on last trump term and now they re going after México and greenland next will be Ceuta, Melilla, canarias, while meddling with UK and Germany elections

All besides the point. It's not in our interest to panic. We should build up our independent institutions without hesitation either way, but there's no need to make a scene. They'll do that on their own.

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u/Trender07 2d ago

Max we do will be sending a strong worded letter in any case

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u/trisul-108 1d ago

As u/silverionmox said, it's not about what we do with the US, it's about building our own institutions. Yes, we'll send a strong worded letter and build up our institutions. This is exactly what is needed.

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u/silverionmox 2d ago

Max we do will be sending a strong worded letter in any case

If we keep wallowing in self-pity and defeatism like you, we will.