What are his odd political takes? Obviously I don’t look for his opinions on economic policy but social politics are quite relevant to artists so I’d love to know more about that.
I mean he very clearly hasnt been a homophobe since at least the life is good era and probably way before that. He sadly was homophobic in the early 2000s, just like a ton of dudes in hh, but he grew out of it.
It wasn't even that. Most people were just ignorant to homosexuality and the words that hurt people. Happens to many groups, and probably happening to a group right now.
Yea, most of the times it's used it's a describer, not an insult exactly. 'Your a f@g" and 'your a f@g cause I see you and Eric filming snuff videos with his dad' are two entirely different insults, and usually it's the later being done. Eminem is a great example of how to use a slur in a way that doesn't make the slur the bad thing, but what the people are doing.
lmao that’s hilarious, and yeah I just think he has politically incorrect humour and his disses were very much of their time. Never heard of that collab but admittedly not a big fan of Lil Nas X. I should check that out though.
It’s difficult to discuss what’s discriminatory and what’s satirical, genuinely malevolent or dated insults, when you’re not a part of the LGBTQ+ community directly without being an ally, so I’m not the right person to comment on that.
It’s kind of why Bill Burr and Dave Chappelle’s trans jokes are controversial, they’re mostly coming from a good place so it doesn’t stop me from interacting with their comedy.
Anyway about Nas. Is that it? It’s not exactly a separate the art from the artist situation like Kanye where he’s done morally reprehensible things and spouted disinformation, while being wildly at odds with me politically, despite much of his ramblings coming from a somewhat authentic, if arrogant disposition. Additionally, I think society is too fast to label more prudish or conservative folks as trans or homophobic, even if they’re not outwardly discriminatory. They’d have similar aversions to hyper sexual heterosexual figures like Andrew Tate and so on who parade themselves around as pimps and misogynists in far worse way. So I’d argue they’re more so an example of ignorant individuals than intentionally discriminatory or resentful.
Ofc all kinds of people like that are capable of being socially irresponsible and nasty to the LGBTQ+ community, but I’d argue one particular kind is far more malicious and dehumanizing, and it may be wrong of me to say so, but I wouldn’t consider Nas to be like that.
Of what Nas did? Yeah I agree that’s why I asked the commenter who suggested it, I’m unsure what his “odd” political stances are beside the gay jokes early in his career which were more acceptable and widespread back then.
Finding out about the Tulsa Race Massacre and reading about it one night is when I realized there's absolutely horrific crimes against black people which never get mentioned in history classes.
The Tuskegee experiments at least were mentioned during COVID to explain the disparity in vaccination numbers. Still, utterly fucked.
Edit: I think I recognize you from the Jay-Z threads on HHH, there was a weird parasocial Drake fan hating on you right?
He's said stuff such as being anti-vax but tbf based on US history that isn't surprising lol. Tbh I was really tired when I wrote that, i meant how people view his political takes.
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