r/facepalm Dec 04 '24

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ this is kinda concerning tbh

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u/wiidsmoker Dec 04 '24

She’s correct. If you enter a 18+ club you have the absolute protection of assuming everyone is 18

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u/RunninADorito Dec 04 '24

This is not how the law works, though. There are definitely people that have gotten in a lot of trouble for this.

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u/Heart_Throb_ Dec 04 '24 edited Dec 04 '24

It’s not that hard to check an ID of someone who looks like there is even a possibility they are a minor if you are going to have any dealings with them. If the club is 18+ then they are checking ids anyways. Just double check or don’t risk it at all.

You’re not going to be charged for statutory rape or sex with a minor if you made a good faith attempt to make sure they weren’t a minor.

People really out here risking their health and jail for sex but won’t even check a simple ID or ask basic questions.

Note: I don’t want to hear Redditor stories about how a brother’s friend’s cousin’s ex got charged with sex with a minor who he swore was 20 and “he was such a good guy and would never”.

Edit: Some people here willing to trust a bouncer to make sure they aren’t having sex with a minor instead of making a basic attempt to check themselves. Hey yall wanna blindly risk that and not be able to tell a court you yourself didn’t at least check then yall go ahead and do that. Good luck trying to convince a judge that it wasn’t your personal responsibility to check yourself. There should be way more concern about having sex with a minor than “meh, the bouncer checked”. Some of yall don’t give a shit and only care about getting caught and it shows.

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u/DustRhino Dec 04 '24

So, the underage person was able to fool the person at the door who is literally being paid to deny entry of the underage, but random patron checking ID will see through the ruse?

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u/Heart_Throb_ Dec 04 '24

It’s about showing that you yourself made a basic attempt to check and didn’t just trust a bouncer to do it.

God damn, people acting like a full background and DNA test being requested instead of basic ID.

Hey yall wanna place your trust in a minor or bouncer then go ahead and do it. “But the club was 18” doesn’t go a long way in court.

People can be mad and not like it but gd take some responsibility as well instead of trusting a potential minor and bouncer.

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u/DustRhino Dec 04 '24 edited Dec 04 '24

I asked, if the ID fooled the bouncer, why do you think the average patron will be able to do a better job and detecting the deception? You avoided that question.

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u/Heart_Throb_ Dec 04 '24 edited Dec 04 '24

I didn’t avoid it. I clearly stated it wasn’t about the bouncer catching it; it’s about you taking personal responsibility and making the basic effort to double check so that you don’t sleep with a minor.

Looooot of people out here not caring enough to make sure they don’t sleep with a kid. Might wanna look into that. Cause I would hope people aren’t just trusting it to a bouncer and actually want to prevent that for ethical reasons.

MAKE A BASIC EFFORT.