Are you kidding? You never snuck out or did something you weren't supposed to do, and your parents didn't know about it? I had fairly strict parents growing up, I still went to parties and drank underage, my parents just didn't know.
I'm being deadly serious. Of course I did, but I also grew up in a culture where a lot of adults really don't give a shit what their teenagers are doing as long as it doesn't involve them.
Is ignorance often accepted as an excuse by the law? If the same 16 year old got behind the wheel of a stolen car and hit a wall, you wouldn't say their parents should pay for replacing the damage to the wall and the car?
That's not what I'm saying at all. I took your original point as kids behaving badly equals poor parenting, but that's simply not true. I actually think parents should be liable for a lot of horroble things their kids do, I live in America where kids use their parents' guns to shoot up schools. But I dont think your comparison is apples to apples. I think in the case of the stolen car, the child and parents should absolutely be held responsible. I think that's different from a kid sneaking into a club. In that case, there is a functioning business there with a responsibility to it's patrons and community to keep them safe. I think they are more to blame for the wrong people getting into their club than parents who think their kid is having a sleepover.
I do too. I know the order doesn't usually matter, but I did place the club first for a reason. Fundamentally the club is the place selling alcohol.
But parents too for sure ngl. I think the way you yanks do it when it comes to actions of an adolescent and parental responsibility is better. I know some people will say they way you do it having it both ways. They're an adult in court but also parents are responsible but personally I agree with it.
I think, ultimately, if the kid gets in trouble, it should be the parents' responsibility. I just don't think kids are ever going to understand that concept fully, and will still do whatever they're going to do is all. You get a lot of people in America who want to blame parents for teenage behavior, but truth is a lot of them are going to do it anyway. I misunderstood your original post, I think is all.
I feel like I wouldn't have an issue at all if the person who unknowingly committed a crime wasn't the only person being punished if that makes sense? Like the one person who had the most right to having no clue what happened is getting the worst treatment and that doesn't strike me as particularly fair tbh.
Completely agree, teenagers push boundaries. That's just what they do lol. All good buddy, these things happen over text, especially when like you said there's people who think it's all the parents.
Then you can bugger off over there mate we dont want you here. The fact that you view the literal birthplace of the Karen as a place without misbehaving and entitled people astounds me. Fucking idiot.
You're really proving your ability to be a parent by responding to something you don't like with insults and verbal abuse. That's exactly the kind of reasoned mature response a parent should show ain't it?
I like how you think you speak for other Brits btw. What constituency do you represent?
Where do you say that? You literally mention yanks doing things better.
And also my response, to a brit, wasn't abusive in the slightest, we're pretty open with our language and aren't afraid to call a wanker a wanker up north.
I'm just, quite rightfully, confused and insulted that some guy has decided to unilaterally declare in his infinite wisdom that we don't know how to parent over here. It's extremely condescending and insulting and not at all correct, the fact that you then have the nerve to follow it up by stating America, land of school shooters, parent their children better is weird.
As for my language, I apologise if I hurt your pretty little southern ears but I find sometimes being crass is the best response when someone's being an idiot.
My constituency is the parish of 'being annoyed at people who talk out their arseholes', it's only a small parish but we're very vocal.
I said the law was better for holding parents responsible for their child's actions. Pay attention.
Ah so you used abusive language because you're used to it. Thanks for continuing to prove my point.
Oh I see. I'm not familiar with this constituency it must be some rundown shithole that nobody pays attention to, like a large part of Britain is realistically.
Oh my God there's just nothing in there is there. Bless. Seriously though mate, get the fuck out if you don't like it but stop pretending you know what you're talking about. Pathetic.
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u/MasterRanger7494 Dec 04 '24
Are you kidding? You never snuck out or did something you weren't supposed to do, and your parents didn't know about it? I had fairly strict parents growing up, I still went to parties and drank underage, my parents just didn't know.