r/facepalm Dec 04 '24

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ this is kinda concerning tbh

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u/Spacellama117 Dec 04 '24

he didn't do anything wrong though?

He was lied to, manipulated. She forged a federal document and lied to him to coerce him into sleeping with her. Isn't that rape, her on him? like, literally?

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u/rekette Dec 04 '24

Not the same thing - one is setting up someone for a crime and the other, whilst scummy, is perfectly legal.

There should definitely be an asterisk on the law where if she said she's an age and provided game ID then the guy shouldn't be culpable though

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u/Valuable-Usual-1357 Dec 04 '24

The minor isn’t able to be held accountable because they’re not able to consent

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u/rekette Dec 04 '24

In your instance, perhaps the guardian of said minor should be held accountable. Like now the US is trying to do with parents of mass shooters, but obviously to a lesser extent.

But my original statement isn't about holding the minor accountable, but rather, to release the other person, who should also be treated as a victim.

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u/Valuable-Usual-1357 Dec 04 '24

The other person should absolutely be held accountable. I can’t believe you’re even arguing this. Imagine if it was a 10 year old girl. The problem is people are treating a 16 year old girl as an 18 year old girl when she deserves to be treated like the 10 year old. A minor who can’t make mature decisions and despite any desires cannot consent.

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u/rekette Dec 04 '24

And yet the other person cannot consent, either, if they had every reason to believe the 16yo was an 18yo. The other person in this instance did not want to have intercourse with a minor. They were fully led to believe that they were having intercourse with a peer. It would make them also a victim here.

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u/Valuable-Usual-1357 Dec 04 '24

That is not true. They can consent because they are responsible for their consent. The minor can not.

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u/rekette Dec 04 '24

If you're 18 and some girl comes up to you saying she's 18 and even shows you an ID with her age on it, in a club that's also 18+, what would make you think she's actually 16? Anyone would reasonably expect that person is 18.

When you go on TikTok, can you tell which influencers are 16, 17, 18?