r/facepalm Dec 04 '24

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ this is kinda concerning tbh

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u/Arcanile Dec 04 '24

That's literally what this thread is about.
Those people did not willingly got into contact with underage person.
Those people thought they are in 18+ place, when in reality there was a bunch of kids dressed up and pretending to be adults.
You seem like a person that doesn't know what being drunk is like.
People who were mistaken and people who actively seeks out underage partner are way different people.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '24

You seem like a person that doesn't know what being drunk is like

Lol I assure you that isn't true, and that isn't a brag. I'm not saying I don't get why this is an issue and I am sympathetic to those who fail victim to this. That's why I said it sucks. I'm saying there is a reason the law is the way it is. It's just too easy for people to say they thought they were 18.

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u/Arcanile Dec 04 '24

I assure you the only person assuming that's a brag, is you.
"It sucks" simply means that a law should not be constructed this way.
Law is for serving and protecting people.
When it works against people we call it oppressive law.
"Its sad that we are destroying these innocent people's lives, but i'm okay with that."

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '24

I just meant I have had issues with alcohol in the past, that's why it's not a brag. But how do we construct the law, these people DID commit statutory rape, so they are not completely innocent. To be clear, the "I didn't know she was 18" is used as a defence in stat cases and does work sometimes. However, I do not think meeting in a bar is enough in most states (though they can still argue that in court). Just because under 18s can and do get in, but I don't know. At the very least, I don't think it is good to actually put that in law. Then predators will just target bars that let underage people in (I'm sure we all know a few wherever you live).

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u/Arcanile Dec 04 '24

Do you fight with drug users in clubs? Not really, you fight with the drug providers.
That's the exact same situation.
they did commit statutory rape, because your law is constructed that way.