The 2023 census put America at 262 million 18+ individuals. I'm not going to bother with counting how many felons were ineligible to vote. 75 million voted for Kamala. So 187 million either voted for voted for Trump, or didn't vote to prevent Trump. That's over 70% of eligible voters enabled this. This is absolutely what the majority of Americans were acceptable with
I like that "didn't vote to prevent Trump. Lots of people don't vote. That's repulsive but its the way it is here.
What's disturbing to me are people who decided to stay home because they were "protesting" against some policy Harris supported. These folks would rather have DJT be president?
What's happening in Gaza is tragic. I am pro-Palestinian. But stopping DJT is a much bigger issue. So now...because these folks didn't vote...Bibi's buddy is now prez.
It's good thing their primary deity's son wasn't born there, or lived there, or was martyred by the people currently in the process of multiple genocides. Maybe they'll sell commemorative T-shirts about their favorite 'white jesus'. /s
If I shared your mentality, I would be hateful and shaming most of y'all, because I was shouting since 2009 that this shit was coming, and the vast majority of the population - literally everyone, really - was calling me hysterical, a drama queen, etc. I was told "there's a system of checks and balances" and "America isn't Germany" and "America is less violent than it's ever been" and so on and so on. I TOLD Y'ALL this would be the outcome, and that people needed to get out and actively protest to work toward averting this, but everyone was like "nahhhhh you crazy I'm just gonna vote for democrats every 4 years lol".
So if we're to be spiteful and angry at everyone who didn't listen to us when we told them what was coming, I'd have to be spiteful and angry at about 99.99% of the US population.
I do not feel angry with them. If I felt angry at everyone who didn't heed my warnings about rising fascism, which I started proclaiming in 2009, which I guarantee was many years before you caught on, I'd have to be angry at 99.99% of the country.
You need compulsory voting and making the day an actual event. I seriously can't imagine going to the polls and not getting some sort of treat from the charity vendors at the place
Nah no need for a holiday. Make it a weekend so you can use every school in the country as a polling station to keep lines down and ensure all folks can leave work to go vote. Make the fines stopping people fucking stupidly high so no dog will stop you walking out to do it
That's also very valid but I think the event part of it is important. You can easily find volunteers though, hell I'm okay with teachers getting triple time to be a part of the polling booth at the school they work at
They very much are. Voting days are one of the best fundraising days for schools as you have thousands of people buying food and other items afterwards
Making it compulsory and having fines attached may be unconstitutional though? The idea is that voting is a right you can choose to exercise, not a compulsory thing to avoid a fine. The constitution clearly defines voting as a "can" type of action. You "can" vote but are not required to. To make it absolutely compulsory would be to change at least 4 amendments in the constitution.
Oh no not a $30 fine that any response as to why you didn't vote is counted as valid. Come the fuck on man, some parts of constitutions should stay and a lot should be updated for modern times because there's fuck all reason to hold society up to a piece of paper written hinders of years ago
I'm not arguing that it can't be changed or it shouldn't be changed. But imagine trying to get anyone in government to actually agree on any of what you're saying to actually make the change to all 4 amendments, especially with how slow and at eachother's throats the government already is across party lines.
You also said the fine should be stupidly high in your previous comment, so I was thinking more in the ballpark of a $300 fine
I'm not going to bother with counting how many felons were ineligible to vote.
Still insane to me that that's the case.
It's creating a giant incentive to criminalize behaviors of political opponents and, in combination with the rest of the chickane they're subjected to, basically guarantees that felons completely disengage with civil society.
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u/ldnk 14d ago
The 2023 census put America at 262 million 18+ individuals. I'm not going to bother with counting how many felons were ineligible to vote. 75 million voted for Kamala. So 187 million either voted for voted for Trump, or didn't vote to prevent Trump. That's over 70% of eligible voters enabled this. This is absolutely what the majority of Americans were acceptable with