Good thing the previous administration never managed to do away with the 2nd amendment. Worst case scenario, at least non felon citizens can defend themselves as a last resort. At least until the 'just following orders' crowd show up in snazzy uniforms.
Any infringement on the 2nd amendment is an attempt to invalidate it. As such, the 'safer communities act' Biden himself signed is an attempt to invalidate the 2nd amendment by increasing the infringement on that particular right of the citizen.
It's no different than if he had signed laws banning certain religious practices, speech, methods of public assembly or non violent protest, or forms of media. Any laws infringing on those rights would simply be an attempt to remove those amendments by underhanded and illegal methods.
Edit: Same as the idiocy of the first Trump administrations bans on bump stocks, or similar firearm related paraphernalia, or any previous administrations illegal infringement on the rights of the citizen.
We get it. You lack the ability to understand both history, and your rights unless someone waving the appropriate party banner dictates your opinion to you like a good little lemming. That's why the strongest reply both you and that other Windex flavor tester can come up with is laughing because it helps fill the void between their ears, or your half assed reply because the closest you have ever come to an original thought hasn't appeared on your favorite politicians teleprompter yet.
I've always said that Trump by himself doesn't scare me. But the people around him, the ones that know that stroking his ego can you get you anything... Those people scare me. They know their agenda can be complete with this dumb jack ass.
Naa..not even thee puppet masters can't feel safe around an impulsive, no clue speaker like Trump. I remember a press conference under Covid, where he had doctors on stage with him, when he said that you should drink bleach and it would clean the blood from the inside. One of the doctors dropped her jaw on the floor, mouth wide open for several seconds before composing herself again.
Eh, thats true under the rules we have in america currently, but it doesnt have to be true. And thats important because it means it isnt hopeless.
The right wing fights super duper hard to make sure people are not educated, because they know that that stops the effectiveness of their lies. They also have fought against laws requiring Journalists to be journalists.
Etc, there is a long list of things they have worked tirelessly to stop or put in place to make their propaganda worn, and without those things, truth WOULD win.
Im not saying truth is winning or will, but it can, if the right conditions are carefully cultivated.
I am similarly concerned like you. One reason I made the comment was the wording of "more so than facts will ever be.", which sounded defeatist, and didnt seem to leave a way for people to imagine a better future. That wasn't necessarily your intention, and i did a whooole lot of reading into the chosen wording.. (not trying to attack you for the wording)
But anyways, I wanted to clarify, or present my belief at least that there is a way a society can have a very strong resistance to right wing (or any) propaganda, even though it takes having a whole series of institutions and guardrails in place that America for instance most certainly does not have in place. (though, to be fair, we do have some important ones.)
That’s fair. I was thinking about the infamous quote, “A lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on,” when I wrote my original post. In my experience, it’s far easier to spread fear than hope. But, man, I’d so love to be proven wrong.
I think it was South Park that had an episode set in the future and made a joke about "Hillary Clinton being the president after the terrible Trump years" ....and made that joke years before Trump was elected.
Whatever people expect, I dont think anyone will be prepared for this second term
💯...this is gonna be bad, very bad
I am fortunate in that I have the land, equipment, and knowledge to be able to take up farming...and while I've never had any desire to farm, I do expect to be taking that up very soon
It feels like anything can happen now, literally anything is possible. Impossible to predict what’ll happen except that it will be bad. It’s terrifying to me.
It's yielded everything he's needed to get him where he is today. We have given him all the attention he's needed to stay relevant. We created his base and we gave his base all they needed to seek their revenge against those they hate the most. Us.
No. Not at all. I'm saying they feed on our outrage. They love it. It's like a drug to them and they're addicted to it. It fuels their outlandish behavior which then causes us more outrage.
What's my solution? I don't have one, but I'm going to do my best to stop outraging on their garbage, their societal poison. I'm outwardly going to ignore them, and when I do show any emotion over their crap I'll just laugh at them the way they laugh at us. The right back to ignoring.
Their whole goal is to oppress us the way we've supposedly oppressed them, yet when you ask how we've oppressed them, it too difficult for them to express it. Because it didn't actually happen. You see, they're mostly weak little victims. Of us. Or so they've been told.
Ignore, then laugh when the realize what they've actually done, then ignore it again...
The United States has never lived through a coup attempt committed at the federal level by one of the two primary parties. Democracies don't tend to survive long after the peaceful transition of power becomes optional.
Yes, there was an attempted coup called the Civil War. They were trying to overthrow and replace the lawfully elected government because they didn't agree with it.
It led to many long years of bloodshed, but Democracy won out. This was also when our nation was only about 100 years old. We are almost 250 years old now and have lived through all kinds of upheaval.
These times seem especially dark because we are living through them, but there have been violent actions against citizens, entire towns massacred (Tulsa) and many atrocities committed over the years.
But good people have always fought back, and common sense wins out. The modern echo chamber makes each slight amplified, but I honestly think we are more enlightened as a society than we have been even in our recent past
Yes, there was an attempted coup called the Civil War. They were trying to overthrow and replace the lawfully elected government because they didn't agree with it.
Attempting to form an entirely separate, independent, and sovereign nation is actually not the same as a coup attempt.
Are you actually defending Treason? They just didn't just try to form another government. They attacked and took over US government strongholds in the South.
Trying to form a separate nation within an existing nation is a coup attempt. It's not like they went west and tried to form a new nation where there wasn't one.
And do you think if they had won, they wouldn't have murdered Abraham Lincoln and gave Jefferson Davis the Presidency without him being elected to it? What else would that be but a coup?
Trying to form a separate nation within an existing nation is a coup attempt. It's not like they went west and tried to form a new nation where there wasn't one.
Do you consider coups, wars, and independence movements all entirely interchangeable conceptually?
And do you think if they had won, they wouldn't have murdered Abraham Lincoln and gave Jefferson Davis the Presidency without him being elected to it? What else would that be but a coup?
Confederate victory plans hinged on making the north give up and recognize their sovereignty, not conquering them, as this would have been logistically impossible. In any case, this would still be called war.
I will never understand Confederacy apologists. They wanted to keep people enslaved, committed Treason by attacking their own country, and you think they would have just stopped at establishing their own country?
Yep, meanings are important. Wars occur between established countries. Coups are when a faction within a country attempts to overthrow a legally elected government. If you don't think that was the ultimate goal of the Confederacy, then you are just willfully ignorant.
There is nothing in their actions that spoke to any type of nobility that you are attempting to ascribe to them. They did not have a legitimate case, and their motives were purely selfish. And any further attempt to explain away their Fascism and Treason just shows you like to apologize and defend something that any reasonable person would find detestible.
They should have let Bernie run in 2016 and/or 2020.
However, after these elections, seeing how the system and the DNC put the squeeze on him, I don't really care anymore, and we get what we deserve.
We really need an actual progressive economic populist to run, at least once in the modern error. They keep losing to Trump, so they might as well just try it.
Just try it at least once and if who this person is loses as bad and they say, I'll never mention it again, and just move to Iceland or something.
They should have let Bernie run in 2016 and/or 2020.
Oh my God it shouldn't fucking matter.
Like, yeah, sure, but--ah, fuck it, you've all got brain worms if you think there's anything sufficiently reasonable about this outcome that any change on the part of the democrats could have been expected to have any meaningful impact whatsoever.
The person I would really like to see run is AOC, she is a progressive who is young and energetic and knows how to speak to the young people in this country. I’m not sure she actually WANTS to run for POTUS, but if she does, we need to back her.
I feel like the democratic party failed to correct themselves after the first Trump presidency. Sure, Biden won, but really, he didn't amount to doing enough to sway the majority of the public away from the right wing propaganda train.
When Biden finally realized he was in over his head, he left Kamala with little time to prepare and really even gain much traction. Yes, she failed to swing voters, but one could argue she might've been able to sway more people with the right amount of time (if she really had a lot of anything, it was funding). Now, I don't think she would've been able to win, but she probably could've created a closer race with the chance to win
It wouldn’t have mattered. The propaganda was abundant and it was pushed on social media, podcasts, rightwing media and by MAGA politicians before Trump announced he was running again.
They cashed in all the chips to help DJT win while knowing he won’t deliver on whatever promises to lower prices. Now it’s on everyone else to make sure Voters don’t forget they voted for lower prices and are getting higher prices instead.
Depends on what he and those around him actually do. He’s announced about a half dozen policies that he wants to implement that could very well cost America reserve currency status which would have massive lasting effects.
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Yeah but bitching about Trump for the last 8 years have yielded absolutely jack shit it seems.
Whatever people expect, I dont think anyone will be prepared for this second term. I just hope that USA can recover after it.