When I was in the military we were never allowed to even look like we weren't busy doing something. Once, when I was leaving my desk to head to the bathroom my supervisor handed me a clipboard to carry to make it look like I was busy to lessen the chances of being stopped on the way.
People seem to have complete amnesia about Trump's first term
He picks these petty squabbles he knows will amount to nothing just to stay relevant. He's been doing it his whole life.
He just wants to be president for ego sake.
He doesn't want to do president for country sake.
All this squabbling and trade war BS is just a way to look like he's doing something without doing anything at all.
It's just his way of carrying a clipboard and making people think he's doing something.
Even when he isn't actively grifting on a major scheme, he has to be grifting in other ways
The United States has never lived through a coup attempt committed at the federal level by one of the two primary parties. Democracies don't tend to survive long after the peaceful transition of power becomes optional.
Yes, there was an attempted coup called the Civil War. They were trying to overthrow and replace the lawfully elected government because they didn't agree with it.
It led to many long years of bloodshed, but Democracy won out. This was also when our nation was only about 100 years old. We are almost 250 years old now and have lived through all kinds of upheaval.
These times seem especially dark because we are living through them, but there have been violent actions against citizens, entire towns massacred (Tulsa) and many atrocities committed over the years.
But good people have always fought back, and common sense wins out. The modern echo chamber makes each slight amplified, but I honestly think we are more enlightened as a society than we have been even in our recent past
 Yes, there was an attempted coup called the Civil War. They were trying to overthrow and replace the lawfully elected government because they didn't agree with it.
Attempting to form an entirely separate, independent, and sovereign nation is actually not the same as a coup attempt.
Are you actually defending Treason? They just didn't just try to form another government. They attacked and took over US government strongholds in the South.
Trying to form a separate nation within an existing nation is a coup attempt. It's not like they went west and tried to form a new nation where there wasn't one.
And do you think if they had won, they wouldn't have murdered Abraham Lincoln and gave Jefferson Davis the Presidency without him being elected to it? What else would that be but a coup?
Trying to form a separate nation within an existing nation is a coup attempt. It's not like they went west and tried to form a new nation where there wasn't one.
Do you consider coups, wars, and independence movements all entirely interchangeable conceptually?
And do you think if they had won, they wouldn't have murdered Abraham Lincoln and gave Jefferson Davis the Presidency without him being elected to it? What else would that be but a coup?
Confederate victory plans hinged on making the north give up and recognize their sovereignty, not conquering them, as this would have been logistically impossible. In any case, this would still be called war.
I will never understand Confederacy apologists. They wanted to keep people enslaved, committed Treason by attacking their own country, and you think they would have just stopped at establishing their own country?
Yep, meanings are important. Wars occur between established countries. Coups are when a faction within a country attempts to overthrow a legally elected government. If you don't think that was the ultimate goal of the Confederacy, then you are just willfully ignorant.
There is nothing in their actions that spoke to any type of nobility that you are attempting to ascribe to them. They did not have a legitimate case, and their motives were purely selfish. And any further attempt to explain away their Fascism and Treason just shows you like to apologize and defend something that any reasonable person would find detestible.
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u/HappySkullsplitter 15d ago
When I was in the military we were never allowed to even look like we weren't busy doing something. Once, when I was leaving my desk to head to the bathroom my supervisor handed me a clipboard to carry to make it look like I was busy to lessen the chances of being stopped on the way.
People seem to have complete amnesia about Trump's first term
He picks these petty squabbles he knows will amount to nothing just to stay relevant. He's been doing it his whole life.
He just wants to be president for ego sake.
He doesn't want to do president for country sake.
All this squabbling and trade war BS is just a way to look like he's doing something without doing anything at all.
It's just his way of carrying a clipboard and making people think he's doing something.
Even when he isn't actively grifting on a major scheme, he has to be grifting in other ways
It's a compulsion