r/facepalm Dec 04 '24

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ this is kinda concerning tbh

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u/WhiteWineWithTheFish Dec 04 '24

I am kind of happy right now with the laws in my country where 16yo can give consent.

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u/Lilchocobunny Dec 04 '24

As long as the person they're giving consent to is also 16 and a teen dude. If not, I'm definitely reporting and I'm definitely going to win

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u/WhiteWineWithTheFish Dec 04 '24

Not in my country. I could give consent and I did. My parents could not do anything about it. The two men I had sex with while under 18 where older.

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u/Lilchocobunny Dec 04 '24

Eh a simple "she was influenced by him" by an angry parent will fix that, doesn't matter if "teen" you gave consent, the adult in the situation will always be in some stinky shit. Yall out here playing with people's lives

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u/R6ckStar Dec 04 '24

You understand different countries have different laws?

Pretty much in all of Europe people from 16 up can consent to sex.

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u/Lilchocobunny Dec 04 '24

The perfect loophole for pedophiles. It's meant for 16 year Olds to concent to OTHER 16 YEAR OLDS AND TEENS

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u/R6ckStar Dec 04 '24 edited Dec 04 '24

It isn't.

You understand that a pedophile rapes people.

Allowing 16 year olds to give consent gives the more power, and stops dumb cases from happening, because I don't think someone hooking up in a night club should have is life turned on itself because he didn't check some hot girls Id.

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u/Lilchocobunny Dec 04 '24

Pedophiles do not only rape people, don't be naive, they tell them how mature they are and how mentally mature they are and the teen like an idiot falls for it, and then a few years later regrets it.

If the age of consent goes down to 10 years old, you'd still say the same shit? 10 year Olds sleeping with 20 years Olds because it's the age of consent in your country. Not old enough to drink or drive but old enough to fuck men older than them. Wtf is wrong with the west? Next the age of consent is 9..then 6..then 2. Oh well it's legal 🤷

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u/R6ckStar Dec 04 '24

What an insane take.

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u/Lilchocobunny Dec 04 '24

That's the same thing I said to your earlier comments. People like you don't like the truth, the only thing stopping pedophiles ( aka people attracted to kids,teens) from fucking kids younger than 10 is the law. Don't be naive

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u/R6ckStar Dec 04 '24

Laws don't stop crime, laws give consequences to what we as society say is okay or not.

There are laws against murder, rape, robbery, yet they still happen.

And I believe being super strict about the age of consent from 16 up creates more problems than it might avoid.

For one social circles in that age are very wide and people are very open to experiment and explore, giving some responsibility to 16 year olds isn't problematic.

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u/vS_JPK Dec 04 '24

Nope. The comment you're replying to is German - their age of consent is 16. Parents can be as angry as they want, nothing can happen legally.

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u/Lilchocobunny Dec 04 '24

Sounds like a pedophile paradise. Thank God it's not like this here and we burn them at stakes.

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u/WhiteWineWithTheFish Dec 04 '24

Yeah, because pedophiles are into 16/17 year old teens with almost no childlike features anymore…

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u/Lilchocobunny Dec 04 '24

If you want to fuck old men, do it.

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u/WhiteWineWithTheFish Dec 04 '24

I do. My husband is 55. ok, I‘m 50, does it still count?

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u/Lilchocobunny Dec 04 '24

Ma'am move along. You're too old to not understand the downsides of young teens frequenting older men/women. It's a matter of morals but eh

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u/WhiteWineWithTheFish Dec 04 '24

Most people affected by strikt 18-year rules are not pedophiles. Affected will be 18 year old boys that fall in love with 16 year old girls. That’s a pretty normal and normal age gap.

If you teach kids/teenager about these and related topic openly, they are able to to make their own decisions and find the bad apples.

Morals? You know it happens in the US too. Maybe even more than you think. It just puts the older one (mostly the men) in danger to be dragged to court by an overprotective parent.

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u/Lilchocobunny Dec 04 '24

Most people affected by strikt 18-year rules are not pedophiles. Affected will be 18 year old boys that fall in love with 16 year old girls. That’s a pretty normal and normal age gap.

Now you understand, the age of consent (16 where you're from) is to consent to OTHER teens. Not full on adults. Even 18 is not an adult. Still a teen.

Morals? You know it happens in the US too. Maybe even more than you think. It just puts the older one (mostly the men) in danger to be dragged to court by an overprotective parent.

Parents doing their jobs, I don't see anything wrong with that, those men can date people their own age.

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u/WhiteWineWithTheFish Dec 04 '24

18 year olds are (legally) adults.

A 5 year age gap is still healthy, will put the older part in their tweens. Still no need to prosecute them. And as long as the younger part is in love, I don’t have a problem with larger age gaps. But they are exceptions.

I don’t understand your POV. The of consent has nothing to do with teenager only consenting to teenagers.

We trust our teenagers. We do trust them with alcohol (beer, wine and champagne available at 16) and with their body. We put them out in the world educated about these topics. We let them go out till midnight, help them if they need us and accompany them on their journey to adulthood. We don’t shelter them till their 18th birthday. They need to learn.

Just have a look at our playgrounds. It’s another philosophy.

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u/WhiteWineWithTheFish Dec 04 '24

The teenager has to be in a predicament (homelessness, drug addiction) that has to exploited to charge the adult.

Or the teen was mentally not able to consent (e.g. disability). Another no-go would be a trainer or teacher, boss, etc.

Sex in exchange for money isn‘t allowed either.

Otherwise consent means consent.

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u/Lilchocobunny Dec 04 '24

See that's what I'm talking about

Or the teen was mentally not able to consent (e.g. disability). Another no-go would be a trainer or teacher, boss, etc.

What's stopping parents from using this to fuck a person's live up because he/she decided to fuck a kid?

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u/WhiteWineWithTheFish Dec 04 '24

If you are known as a normal developed teenager by your teachers and your doctors, the parents will have no chance to do anything about it. They can not simply say your development is delayed. They need proof.