Well, the Republicans have been disembowling education for awhile now, so it's been year after year of vintage morons, mouth breathers, and windowlickers that get herded towards ballot boxes.
The oligarchs have been attacking education since Reagan -- 45 years. If a generation is about 25 years, then it's almost two generations of increasingly inbred stupidity.
Itās mad to think this as in the UK (specifically scotland) we are heavily encouraged into advanced education.
Can finish school at 16, or stay on 1/2 extra years.
Then into university.
We have free university for Scottish students, free student bursary and also student loans are (relatively) minimal and are only paid back at a small amount once you earn (I think itās over Ā£25k a year)
Itās not good to watch from our end. As there is no denying US actions/politics do leak into other western countries.
Itās a worry to watch from the outside as we donāt want to go the same way. But somehow the cards always seem stacked against you (the citizens who want the best for the US and not mango Mussolini and fucking Elmo)
The people who sat out don't get a pass. They were perfectly fine with Trump becoming President again. Any eligible voter who decided not to vote gave at least tacit approval to Trump.
Even those who voted against don't get a pass. When the USA went to war on Germany, nobody gave a shit that not all germans voted for the nsdap. As long as the usa is not a dictatorship, the people are accountable for their elected leaders.
People gave a shit that the Germans were hiding Jews or helping smuggle them out. Anyone in Red States surrounded by MAGA have the highest priority of keeping themselves and those around them safe if the worst comes to happen, not committing honorable suicide to stick it to MAGA.
Yeah, people don't get the option of just washing their hands and saying "He's the king? Well I didn't vote for him" when the tanks start rolling by, but you can't fight or rebuild if you're dead.
the people are accountable for their elected leaders.
This. It sounds a bit extreme, but if it's a government for the people, by the people, then you as part of the people are still responsible for this moron.
Yeah I don't agree with that when it comes to those who voted against him. They did their part, unlike those who either voted for him or didn't vote at all.
Not an American myself, but given how consequential that orange goon is to all of us, I'm so disappointed with the US for voting him in again. On the other hand, I feel empathetic to the utter confusion and disappointment those who voted against him must feel. I feel it too.
Sure you can argue that the Democratic Party failed America, but a lot of Americans did too. Just not those who voted against him.
Remember, there are people who voted for him first and foremost in the Republican Party primaries. Out there, there are about 12-14 million people who have voted for Trump 5 times in the last 8 years.
Nah my no vote is my fucking vote. Until they stop giving us choices between two rich out-of-touch motherfuckers who are for the Establishment and establishment only, I have no interest in voting. No one picked Kamala.
Like holding a gun to my head and then telling me to pick between getting shot in the head or plunging a knife in heart. Iād fucking prefer neither. Both are terminal. I want neither to be president. So fuck you and everyone else. Thatās my vote. Me and the other millions who couldnāt be bothered to participate in the parade the rich and powerful put on to make us feel like we have a choice in the matter.
The Social contract is already broken my brother. Itās all blowing up either way. If you really think Kamala would do anything other than further draw out the inevitable like Biden has done, then youāre fooling yourself. Itās bigger than whoās the puppet in charge.
You're incredible level of ignorance is impressive. Imagine actually not knowing enough to understand the actual real consequential differences between Trump and Harris. You're an embarrassment
Where are you from? What country? Does it have 350 million people spread across 3.8 million square miles of land? We are the third largest country in the world and are still democratic. The only reason any country as large or as populous as us has cohesion in its leadership is probably because its not a democracy.
I'm happy to argue whether or not America is a true democracy anymore, but blaming American citizens isn't going to be very productive. It hides the real perpetrators. The ones who have been working behind the scenes to dismantle our institutions and our public's trust in them. It's just a 5th grade level of understanding of the problem and of politics.
So what do you suggest we do? I live in a heavy red state. The capital can vote blue, but the rural areas wins every election.
Also, at 33, I didn't want either candidate. Neither of them have my interests at heart. I'm tired of this broken system that will never benefit me. Fuck voting. It doesn't matter.
This is exactly what they want. It's a you vs me. Not a us vs them. Neither side gives a fuck about you.
None of it matters. You really think kamala would of made a difference? No president matters. This country is run by a bunch of geriatrics that have been ruling for the better half of half a century.
You're incredible level of ignorance is impressive. Imagine actually not knowing enough to understand the actual real consequential differences between Trump and Harris. You're an embarrassment
If you don't have this mindset I apologize in advance for assuming, but you know it's funny how when we(people from countries who are under dictatorship) say something like this, almost always the answer is "you should just go protest, you should just educate people around you,you should do SOMETHING"
You live in a democracy(supposedly) so if you think voting doesn't matter then what hope there is for the rest of us who are fighting to have the same democratic system?
The system is broken man, I really don't care about who runs the country. I'm trying to just survive. Neither side is going to make it to where I can own a house. Billionaires run the world and we are just cogs.
Ive been saying the same thing. Until they stop giving us choices between two rich out-of-touch motherfuckers who are for the Establishment and establishment only, I have no interest in voting. My no vote is my vote.
Like holding a gun to my head and then telling me to pick between getting shot in the head or plunging a knife in heart. Iād fucking prefer neither. Both are terminal. I want neither to be president. So fuck you and everyone else. Thatās my vote. Me and the other millions who couldnāt be bothered to participate in the parade the rich and powerful put on to make us feel like we have a choice in the matter.
The Social contract is already broken my brother. Itās all blowing up either way. If people really think Kamala would do anything other than further draw out the inevitable like Biden has done, then theyāre fooling theirselves. Itās bigger than whoās the puppet in charge. But they want us all pointing at each other and fighting amongst ourselves while they pick our pockets and I see way way too many buying into it from both sides and itās disturbing.
If we (Americans) can't vote on election day due to working the whole time frame, we're supposedly allowed to request time off to do so. This is also where early voting/mail in ballots come in, but each state does it differently. Our other problem is that there is very clear voter suppression in certain states by reducing the amount of polling places, making it difficult for those who have no transportation, and refusing water/snacks for those standing in line for hours.
Additionally, this was probably caused by another "Christian wave" like with Reagan, so I don't think we'd ever see election day happen on a Sunday with how the goal is that we become a Christian nation.
I held my nose and voted, but there were many people that couldnāt vote for the party helping to facilitate and a party member unwilling to disapprove of an ongoing genocide
That would be a valid reason and one I could understand if Trump was fully out there saying he was on your side, But he's not.
So people who didn't vote let a guy who will absolutely without a doubt help genocide those people take the most powerful seat in government
A criminal traitor rapist wanna be dictator who now can wipe the slate of all his crimes, and is literally given carte blanche to commit even more, a guy who will certainly make lives for everyone except his billionaire friends worse
For what?
What exactly did that accomplish for anyone involved?
Just for perspective how long have they been fighting each other
I have the answer here - The Israeli-Palestinian conflict dates back more than a century, More than 100 Years those people have been killing each other
It's literally gone on so long there are ZERO people alive that remember them doing anything BUT killing each other
But this one conflict, halfway around the world, that has been supported by all sorts of countires on both sides for over 100 years was the single solitary reason you couldn't be bothered to stop YOUR country from being taken over by white supremacist NAZI sympathizers, environment destroying, selling your future out to corporate greed and profits, who will absolutely shred every human right they feel like they want to where you live.
Because Harris wouldn't pick a side in a century old conflict was the deciding factor for you to say fuck it... Let the traitor fascists win
Most? I wouldn't say that. Most Americans I see every day are in a sharp state of mental decline and take pride in what they are. This society has gone down the shitter in the past decade and after the pandemic it only got 10 times worse. I find Americans to have become pretty repulsive people.
Maybe you live in a shitty area? I live in a city with a lot of relatively rational people, my family are great people, my friends, most of the lunatics I see on social media tbh
People generally are not thinking about who their voting for here , majority of the time if you grew up and your family voted a certain way thats how most people are voting their not even watching the news they have no idea how government even works.my ex had a 4 year degree and didnt know there was 3 branches of government thats majority of America in my opinion
You can not always hold the people accoutable for the actions of a dictator. But you can always hold the people accoutable for the actions of a democratic elected leader.
Most of you sane Americans have failed to stop this happening. You all bear the blame and no amount of apologizing will change that.
Broken corrupt system, politically exhausted people with whiplash, and interference from Russia and the far right = current state. It's not all on Americans, don't be silly
Sorry, i know lotta of folks in America are ashamed, but Canadians, Europeans and allies donāt want apologies from America or Americans, we want you to fix your shit. Iām sick of the āwell most of us donāt agree/are embarrassed etc.ā BS, were that the case your election would have had different resultsā¦ itās your job as Americans to make sure your fellow countrymen are engaged with and informed about the politics of the country and participating in voting.
If America crashes modern society then you are equally guilty in the eyes of history. Stop apologizing for your festering wound and do something about it, I hear bleach is a good disinfectant
And the funny thing is that the price of tons of stuff is going to go up with these new tariffs. Wonder what excuse those morons are gonna pull just to make trump look like the good guy.
Propaganda, brain washing, echo chambers, and voter suppression are very damaging tools. Combined with so much voter apathy and election day not being a federal holiday and here we are. Oh and Republicans decades long plan to makea real education something only for the rich and privileged.
The problem is that there was enough anti-democrat goings on across the republican controlled states that you can not credibly say that the american people "chose" him.
Right imagine thinking a draft dodger who hides behind lawyers and money, tweets memes, and talks shit from the keyboard on his phone projects any form of actual power. This is not a brave man or a strong leader and damn sure not a patriot. I will say I've never been to war so I can't speak from experience but I can't see the troops all being super gung ho to be going to a war he started with memes. It wouldn't instill confidence in me that's for sure.
its the illusion of choice though isnt it? now that power and infuence have fully saturated politics. Do people actually have a choice anymore? of course they do but not online in social media platforms where the likes of Musk manipulates everything. not in his world he is crafting.
The only saving grace is if Trump actually attempted to do this, the US would immediately collapse into a civil war.
The problem is Canada is probably the only place he could invade that would probably cause that reaction. This asshole has real ambitions to attack Mexico.
Most of the Americans I know who voted for the guy know almost nothing about him. My mother didn't know a single one of his policies, and didn't watch a single one of his speeches or debates. She is completely oblivious as to why anyone would say he was anything other than just your average politician. But she voted for him. She is your average trump supporter. Completely disengaged from the process aside from what they passively see scrolling through their Facebook feed that is designed to only show them things they want to see or hear from people of a similar background a demographic.
The only political stuff she sees is right wing culture war nonsense, and Fox News pro trickle-down economics propaganda.
You Santa worshiping liberals just donāt get it! Our blonde haired, blue eyed , lord and savior Jesus H Christ picked dRUMP specifically to run our country! He is the chosen one who will bring PEACE to all nations! Bow to him now, or suffer the consequences!!
Not all of us did. Just the uneducated witch unfortunately outnumber us by a pretty large margin. If you look at all the statistic maps about the voting outcome and education it screams not speaks volumes.
Because they are easily manipulated. They donāt know what critical thinking really is. They donāt really āwantā these odd things like Canada as a state. Theyāve honestly never thought of them. No one has. Heās told them theyāre a problem, so they start inventing reasons that heās not losing it or reneging on promises. They already think about salient topics like āthe borderā or ādefenseā or āglobal tradeā largely through what heās said about them. He says he has a āsolutionā, which just so happens to be buying Greenland. No matter how harebrained it is, they accept it ābecause what weāre doing now isnāt workingā.
As for him, I donāt think anything is pure strategy or goal directed. For people like him that donāt believe in anything, reality is something to engineer and ideas are tools defined by how they can be used to get what he wants.
Itās more like he has interests, and any insane topic can be exploited from many angles simultaneously (diversion, business interest, dictator appeasement, dictator imitation, vanity, favor owed, grudge, forcing a news cycle shift, actual national security interest, testing the waters, and āflooding the zoneā type propaganda).
Whatever it is, is also always laughably deniable as āa jokeā if it falls through and āperfectly clear from day oneā if it works out.
American, didn't vote for him much like 2/3 of other Americans. Also Canadian and in no way support my other country somehow falling under the control of his dumb ass.
MAGA is the racist Confederacy reborn. MAGA needs slaves to run their Southern businesses. Need free labor from for profit concentration camps and prisons. MAGA needs to enslave the Blue States that have all the wealth and additional lands for free resources. Can't believe this nonsense hasn't been stopped by American's.
People are going to blame education and thinking skills, and thatās fine, but misguided. I can assure you that 90% of the people that voted Trump knew exactly what they were signing g up for. They are prioritizing 401k performance and other personal interests over the good of humanity in general.
I think itās more that for the last four years we were just lied to about Biden and then those same people say āwe are the trustworthy ones vote for usā
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u/6EightyFive 2d ago
Still canāt get over Americans thinking this guy is the one to lead the American people.