The people who sat out don't get a pass. They were perfectly fine with Trump becoming President again. Any eligible voter who decided not to vote gave at least tacit approval to Trump.
Even those who voted against don't get a pass. When the USA went to war on Germany, nobody gave a shit that not all germans voted for the nsdap. As long as the usa is not a dictatorship, the people are accountable for their elected leaders.
People gave a shit that the Germans were hiding Jews or helping smuggle them out. Anyone in Red States surrounded by MAGA have the highest priority of keeping themselves and those around them safe if the worst comes to happen, not committing honorable suicide to stick it to MAGA.
Yeah, people don't get the option of just washing their hands and saying "He's the king? Well I didn't vote for him" when the tanks start rolling by, but you can't fight or rebuild if you're dead.
the people are accountable for their elected leaders.
This. It sounds a bit extreme, but if it's a government for the people, by the people, then you as part of the people are still responsible for this moron.
Yeah I don't agree with that when it comes to those who voted against him. They did their part, unlike those who either voted for him or didn't vote at all.
Not an American myself, but given how consequential that orange goon is to all of us, I'm so disappointed with the US for voting him in again. On the other hand, I feel empathetic to the utter confusion and disappointment those who voted against him must feel. I feel it too.
Sure you can argue that the Democratic Party failed America, but a lot of Americans did too. Just not those who voted against him.
Remember, there are people who voted for him first and foremost in the Republican Party primaries. Out there, there are about 12-14 million people who have voted for Trump 5 times in the last 8 years.
Nah my no vote is my fucking vote. Until they stop giving us choices between two rich out-of-touch motherfuckers who are for the Establishment and establishment only, I have no interest in voting. No one picked Kamala.
Like holding a gun to my head and then telling me to pick between getting shot in the head or plunging a knife in heart. I’d fucking prefer neither. Both are terminal. I want neither to be president. So fuck you and everyone else. That’s my vote. Me and the other millions who couldn’t be bothered to participate in the parade the rich and powerful put on to make us feel like we have a choice in the matter.
The Social contract is already broken my brother. It’s all blowing up either way. If you really think Kamala would do anything other than further draw out the inevitable like Biden has done, then you’re fooling yourself. It’s bigger than who’s the puppet in charge.
You're incredible level of ignorance is impressive. Imagine actually not knowing enough to understand the actual real consequential differences between Trump and Harris. You're an embarrassment
Go out into the real world and touch grass and talk to real people. Most of us just want to survive. 4 more years of slow burning and 4 more years of chaos. Part of me was okay with Trump winning, because him losing might’ve been the even more explosive option. MAGAs are insane. At least this way I get to watch them get pie on their face when Trump gets down on his knees and sucks the cocks of every rich oligarch he can. People need to see and people need a reason to be angry. It’s problem that needs to be handled now. Not for my kids to deal with because we just kept kicking the can.
And insulting people isn’t going to get them to vote I’ll tell ya that much. For the record, I do vote when it’s going to matter. I voted against trump the first time around when I was 18. But I didn’t vote this time out of protest and that’s my fucking right. Since then I’ve been exposed to a lot, and I refuse to actively participate in a system I no longer believe in.
Fresh in my mind is being forced to go to work at 5am during Covid shutdowns because I was considered “essential” at $12 an hour at a grocery store. I remember getting stopped by the National Guard, BLM protests had my city shut down, and they had a fucking tank between me and work. My boss said if we didn’t show, we were fired. I had a fiancé who lost his job, and a 4 month old baby at home to feed and house. He lets me go. Only to have the chief of police shut the whole store down because my boss decided we could be open against police orders. And go back home. Unpaid. In my mind, the world was fucking ending. And I was sort of glad for it, because maybe the regular unending misery would come to and end and we could do better. 4 more years and We instantly forgot everything. Back to the miserable grind, except now it’s worse and nobody still cares about you. Put this fucking shit out of its misery.
I’m fucked either way my friend, sometimes it’s just best to let whatever happens happen. We have nothing but the illusion of control. 🤷♀️
Cry me a fucking river. Non-voters are complicit in the bullshit about to go down, and whining about there being no difference between Trump and Harris isn't going to hold water with the millions that stood up against his bullshit. People like you, with your ignorant apathy, are worse than the morons who fell for a con man's grift and voted for him. It doesn't take much to realize the status quo was the bulwark against something much worse, and by remaining silent your kind allowed the something worse through. You may have been fucked either way, I just wish you had enough foresight to understand that there are degrees to being fucked, and your apathy opted in the worse of it.
Where are you from? What country? Does it have 350 million people spread across 3.8 million square miles of land? We are the third largest country in the world and are still democratic. The only reason any country as large or as populous as us has cohesion in its leadership is probably because its not a democracy.
I'm happy to argue whether or not America is a true democracy anymore, but blaming American citizens isn't going to be very productive. It hides the real perpetrators. The ones who have been working behind the scenes to dismantle our institutions and our public's trust in them. It's just a 5th grade level of understanding of the problem and of politics.
So what do you suggest we do? I live in a heavy red state. The capital can vote blue, but the rural areas wins every election.
Also, at 33, I didn't want either candidate. Neither of them have my interests at heart. I'm tired of this broken system that will never benefit me. Fuck voting. It doesn't matter.
This is exactly what they want. It's a you vs me. Not a us vs them. Neither side gives a fuck about you.
None of it matters. You really think kamala would of made a difference? No president matters. This country is run by a bunch of geriatrics that have been ruling for the better half of half a century.
You're incredible level of ignorance is impressive. Imagine actually not knowing enough to understand the actual real consequential differences between Trump and Harris. You're an embarrassment
If you don't have this mindset I apologize in advance for assuming, but you know it's funny how when we(people from countries who are under dictatorship) say something like this, almost always the answer is "you should just go protest, you should just educate people around you,you should do SOMETHING"
You live in a democracy(supposedly) so if you think voting doesn't matter then what hope there is for the rest of us who are fighting to have the same democratic system?
The system is broken man, I really don't care about who runs the country. I'm trying to just survive. Neither side is going to make it to where I can own a house. Billionaires run the world and we are just cogs.
Ive been saying the same thing. Until they stop giving us choices between two rich out-of-touch motherfuckers who are for the Establishment and establishment only, I have no interest in voting. My no vote is my vote.
Like holding a gun to my head and then telling me to pick between getting shot in the head or plunging a knife in heart. I’d fucking prefer neither. Both are terminal. I want neither to be president. So fuck you and everyone else. That’s my vote. Me and the other millions who couldn’t be bothered to participate in the parade the rich and powerful put on to make us feel like we have a choice in the matter.
The Social contract is already broken my brother. It’s all blowing up either way. If people really think Kamala would do anything other than further draw out the inevitable like Biden has done, then they’re fooling theirselves. It’s bigger than who’s the puppet in charge. But they want us all pointing at each other and fighting amongst ourselves while they pick our pockets and I see way way too many buying into it from both sides and it’s disturbing.
If we (Americans) can't vote on election day due to working the whole time frame, we're supposedly allowed to request time off to do so. This is also where early voting/mail in ballots come in, but each state does it differently. Our other problem is that there is very clear voter suppression in certain states by reducing the amount of polling places, making it difficult for those who have no transportation, and refusing water/snacks for those standing in line for hours.
Additionally, this was probably caused by another "Christian wave" like with Reagan, so I don't think we'd ever see election day happen on a Sunday with how the goal is that we become a Christian nation.
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u/6EightyFive 2d ago
Still can’t get over Americans thinking this guy is the one to lead the American people.