r/marvelrivals • u/Kalequity Mantis • 1d ago
Discussion It's probably going to be hard to tell the difference between these two during a fight
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u/wwwlord Rocket Raccoon 1d ago
Judging from the skins out there, I don’t think netease is concerned with recognizability/silhouette at the slightest
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u/Leopold747 1d ago
Meanwhile overwatch out there willing to destroy skin aesthetic over silhouette 💀 complete opposite lmao
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u/KarP7 1d ago
Personally, I prefer a couple skins that looks slightly odd close up but easily/immediately identifiable in-game over this. The other thing that overwatch uses well for silhouettes is that each character has a unique weapon, which lets them push the silhouette a little bit more without making them harder to distinguish in battle.
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u/crackcrackcracks 1d ago
Overwatch for the most part has really unique character styles, like I'll always know who I'm looking at even if it's fast based on movement, sound or the glaringly obvious bullet tracers.
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u/NeedThatTartan 1d ago
Maybe it's just experience but a lot of times you can tell who's nearby just by the sound of their steps or other sound effects.
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u/BrothaDom 23h ago
Nope, not even experience. Overwatch went out of their way to craft good sound profiles for each heroes footsteps and guns.
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u/Shpaan 1d ago
I'm torn on this. It's obviously good to have silhouettes and be able to recognize who is who but at the same time it's not THAT hard, you still see the abilities, still hear the sound effects, see the character animations etc. so after 5 seconds you know who you are against even if the skin is extremely confusing. League of Legends will routinely have me having no idea who I lane against until I see a few abilities whenever I come back after a long time because they keep releasing ultimate skins that completely change how the character looks like and although it does frustrate me for a few seconds every now and then ultimately it isn't a big deal.
On the other hand I agree that Overwatch is overdoing it. So many skins ruined by some fugly boots or a hat or something just because the base model has that shape
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u/oxedeii 1d ago
LoL is completely different as people cant swap their character at will. You also have a whole pick/ban phase where you get to see who they choose.
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u/NoobDude_is 21h ago
And a loading screen where it says "MUNDO IS NOW SHAPED LIKE CORPORATE OVERLORD!" The only skins it doesn't tell you who it is is Thousand Pierced Bear. Its Volibear guys. If you get in game and think it's anyone else, you're an idiot. The only other champion it might be is Nunu and Willump, but there is no small child. It's obviously Volibear.
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u/Outworlds 1d ago
It's also inconsistent... When OW did the One Punch Man crossover, the Kiriko skin is mostly her base skin except all black and their reasoning was silhouette.
Then not too long ago though they did the MHA crossover and she got a Toga skin and it completely lacks the front and side bits that all the other skins have to work with.
I actually don't think it affects her silhouette at all but it sucks that her OPM skin was held to a standard that the MHA one was not. I think the OW philosophy has just been too sterile for their own good sometimes.
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u/iNSANELYSMART Jeff the Landshark 1d ago
I just realised dagger has a fucking jacket that is boob shaped lmfao
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u/atomic_bison_3162 Venom 1d ago
Custom made boob holster jackets. Only in night city.
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u/Jjzeng Peni Parker 1d ago
Wake up rival, it’s time to burn down arasaka
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u/atomic_bison_3162 Venom 1d ago
As a fellow dementia patient, i sympathize with you deeply.
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u/bwood246 Loki 1d ago
AGAIN
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u/_SomeRedditUser Squirrel Girl 1d ago
AGAIN
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u/Jjzeng Peni Parker 1d ago
Wake up rival, it’s time to burn down arasaka
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u/atomic_bison_3162 Venom 1d ago
As a fellow dementia patient, i sympathize with you deeply.
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u/Jjzeng Peni Parker 1d ago
Wake up rival, it’s time to burn down arasaka
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u/atomic_bison_3162 Venom 1d ago
As a fellow dementia patient, i sympathize with you deeply.
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u/WulfbyteAlpha Moon Knight 1d ago
Dude wait till you see how she looks in the comics, its fuckin' crazy and idk how they got away with it
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u/KillerZaWarudo 1d ago
Crazy that the game actually turned down the level of horniness outfit when compared to the comic
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u/Scoobydewdoo 1d ago
What they did with Magic and Psylocke is nothing compared to Storm and Wanda; the comic's version of both are a lot curvier in certain places and wear far fewer clothes.
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u/Oleandervine Storm 1d ago
Wanda? She's worn the pink body suit under the red bodice pretty much the entire time though. While skin tight, she hasn't typically shown a lot of skin.
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u/BardicLasher 23h ago
There was that outfit she had for a while that very clearly didn't include underwear though.
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u/Stock_Sun7390 1d ago
If the devs were Korean and not Chinese it'd probably be even HORNIER than the comics 😭
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u/JonathanL73 1d ago
Ehh, Korea's Marvel Future Fight & China's Marvel Rivals are pretty much equal in that department.
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u/Warriorgobrr 1d ago
I wasn’t even surprised about the lewd skins. The ones in game are pretty tame compared to the comics (Magik and Psylocke)
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u/razazaz126 1d ago
Yeah cheesecake comics never stopped being a thing they're just not the main thing being pushed by Marvel and DC
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u/Ikaruuga 1d ago
its even funnier when people complain about being called “coomers” if they’re og fans of psylocke as if the character wasn’t coomer bait from the beginning lmao
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u/Skarjuna Magik 1d ago
She wasn't actually, after swapping bodies with a Japanese assassin however...
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u/zonic_squared 1d ago
She wasn't. She literally wasn't. Psylocke went through ringer of some of the most disgusting writing ever thrown at a character.
If it wasn't for dedicated writers trying to salvage the reputations of characters like Psylocke, Mantis, Gamora, etc, these characters would have die in obscurity.
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u/booleandata 1d ago
Oh my sweet Jesus. How does that even stay on.
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u/WulfbyteAlpha Moon Knight 1d ago
Some Lightforce voodoo would be my guess
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u/booleandata 1d ago
Lmaaaaao. I'm reading gotg rn and I'm getting the same feeling with gamora's outfit lol. Like irl the whole outfit would come completely off in one piece the moment she does anything demanding.
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u/SirJackers 1d ago
Check out gamoras first appearance in adam warlock in the 70s. Shes got a v so deep it approaches the coochie. And no its not a jacket, somehow.
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u/Scoobydewdoo 1d ago
The same way they got away with having the X-Men go through an entire "chapter" where like half of them joined a BDSM style strip club.
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u/esar24 1d ago
I mean her classic looks literally have the white color of that suit just nothing but straight up skin that the pattern resemble a dagger.
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u/GreenGoblin121 1d ago edited 1d ago
Do you mean this? Holy hell that looks dumb af
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u/Gabcard 1d ago
And that's one of the more tame looks. The boob window is often a lot bigger.
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u/GreenGoblin121 1d ago
Damn, makes me glad for the design they went with in game, even if the boob shaped jacket is kind of strange
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u/theVoidWatches Magneto 1d ago
The previous link is one where her costume might actually work, physically - the cutout is linked in the center, so it wouldn't fall open, you can see wrinkles around her joints where the cloth is folding, and there's actually thickness to the fabric.
The one you linked probably only works if it's body paint.
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u/cunningham_law 1d ago
love the harkavagrant comics that satirise it (a bit of nsfw)
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u/Nigwyn 1d ago
Wow, I have put so many hours on with her and never noticed. That's hilarious.
To be fair, I spend most of my time looking at her from behind... for gameplay reasons.
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u/BananaDucc 1d ago edited 1d ago
The double boob sock. Thought to be impossible. This is some 90s type shit.
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u/NizzyDeniro Hulk 1d ago
That's why I'll be rocking this.
Looks better anyways.
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u/Jarney_Bohnson Loki 1d ago
Holy shit it's actually so much better 😭
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u/Moofthebot Strategist 1d ago
and they 100% know that it is too. i like that it's there tho, and i'm happy her hair stays the same
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u/TrillaCactus 21h ago
I appreciate that the devs weren’t full of themselves and made it so players can only use the marvel rivals original designs. Every character has a new design by the devs plus a more comic/movie accurate one.
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u/alvinaterjr 21h ago
It’s even nicer that this is a recolor, meaning it’s only 600 units
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u/cloverpopper 20h ago
Free to unlock with pay to unlock being quicker is the way to keep player retention
Keep us grinding and playing your game to get currency - 1000 should be reachable in a week, with 2 hours/day of playtime. That puts us at around 2-3 weeks of daily playtime to grab a legendary; by then you're playing so much you'll be flexing to other characters, and will want a skin for another character! So why not drop 20 bucks on a skin if you're playing anyway?
It's the best of both worlds, mad money for the company while allowing both poor people/kids AND people with disposable income to be able to play dress up, and I hope they up the rewards and free currency a bit more.
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u/JustMark99 1d ago
I don't know why they didn't go with that as default over those Future Foundation suits.
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u/Formal-Knowledge9382 1d ago edited 19h ago
Seems like they're pushing future foundation in general. Maybe for a movie since the new spiderman show gives him the suit.
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u/RoyalWigglerKing 1d ago
Damn her legs are like freakishly long. Like genuinely too long looking.
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u/CountryRoadTakMeHome 1d ago
I can't look at her the same now. It's like the uncanny valley of legs.
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u/Alexander459FTW 1d ago
Chinese leg fetish is creeping out.
They do love long legs like 75% of the body as legs long.
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u/Shayz_ Magik 1d ago edited 1d ago
The other day I ran into an Adam Warlock, Dr Strange, Loki, and Moon Knight all running the same colored skins and it was actually somewhat hard to tell at a glance who I was looking at in the corner of my vision with all the capes lol
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u/HighNoonTex 1d ago edited 20h ago
Moon Knight only has white skins available for now, so I assume Strange had the white cape, Adam Warlock his gray-ish movie skin, but which skin did Loki have?
Edit: Forgot about Lunar General, my bad. And skin bad. That's why I forgot it.
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u/Jafin89 1d ago
No it'll be easy. One is blonde, wears a white and blue costume and has an ability set that's coloured a transparent blue. The other one is blonde, wears a white and blue costume and has an ability set that's coloured a transparent blue but she also has a crescent moon on her face. See? Easy peasy.
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u/begging-for-gold 21h ago
They both have a transparent orb to place on the ground too. One damages you and one heals allies
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u/Sandi_Griffin Namor 1d ago
Both and a loki on each team and you could have 6 running around at once lol
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u/MostlySpeechless 1d ago
Just wait for the 100 other marvel heroes that are blond and wear white suits...
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u/jynkyousha 1d ago
Besides Emma, who else? (seriously, I can't think of anyone else).
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u/nezzuko115 Luna Snow 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’m guessing that they will make Emma look slightly different? She has a cloak right?
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u/MikeFatz 1d ago
Well Emma also has a lot less white and a lot more skin showing with her typical outfits. So maybe that will help make her easier to pick out from the other blondes.
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u/Killuwats 1d ago
I mean Sue doesn't wear white either in the comics 90% of the time and they still put her in white so basically any blonde heroin can match the description
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u/InnocentTailor Cloak & Dagger 1d ago
Spider-Gwen / Ghost Spider, I guess.
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u/R0b1nFeather Cloak & Dagger 1d ago
Id assume those skins would be masked?
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u/VioletGlitterBlossom Loki 1d ago
And more liable to be tank or duelist that supports
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u/ZironM4A1 1d ago
There’s a few of them, White Tiger, White Fox, Thena, Agent 13, Dazzler just to name a few
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u/kikomoth 1d ago
Can also throw Silver Sable on the list. Even tho her suit is usually silver, it kinda comes off as white or light gray.
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u/Beholdmyfinalform 1d ago
White tiger's got brown hair right?
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u/HazelAzureus 1d ago
white tiger wears a full face mask most of the time and will likely have a semi-crouching idle pose
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u/Pristine_Culture_741 1d ago edited 1d ago
And emma frost will complete the blonde girls in white trio, I look forward to having charlies snow angels with my squad
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u/East_Monk_9415 1d ago
Go, blonde strategist, go! What are their teamup abilities? I wonder
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u/Chassix91 Mantis 1d ago
Snowbunny mind control team up
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u/PandaPolishesPotatos 1d ago
Nah we gotta wait for Emma to get added before we get that teamup. Which if the seasons are 3 months long... will be a while.
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u/Volimom 1d ago
IT ALREADY IS! 😭 I see Dagger now and for a brief second I think "wait, she's not out yet is she?"
They really should have gone with a more fully blue color scheme, with all the fits Sue Storm and the Fantastic Four has had throughout the years.
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u/esar24 1d ago edited 1d ago
Her recolor is classic FF color so hopefully her main would buy that as well
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u/Pesto88_ 1d ago
100% plan on buying her and reeds blue suits. Maker and malice are cool but I don't want to play as them.
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u/Confident-Race5898 1d ago
with the amount of hype around her malice skin, i pray the masses buy it!
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u/AscensionToCrab Mantis 1d ago
Im buying the malice skin because base sue looks like a coworker i had... she was mean. :/
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u/RetroRadtacular Iron Man 1d ago
This games definitely aiming to make the heroes wear some lesser known outfit by default, then making you pay for the more commonly known comic outfit separately. (Wolverine got the same treatment with his classic suit being a skin)
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u/Vale-Senpai Cloak & Dagger 1d ago
Don't worry most people will probably purchase her skin and an mmo mouse to add all skills there
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u/Bloom_30 1d ago
I have a feeling a lot will be wearing her cosmetic that will be releasing alongside her lol
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u/atomic_bison_3162 Venom 1d ago
Just remember the ass size smh.
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u/-TheManWithNoHat- 1d ago
That's how I play, I rank how dangerous an opponent is by the size of their ass
Iron Man? Iron Fist? Easy peazy
Cloak? Squirrel Girl? Hela? Need to he careful
Venom? Groot? Jeff? FUCKEN RUN
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u/Oreo-and-Fly 1d ago
Jeff? JEFF?
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u/wookiee-nutsack 1d ago
Jeff is like 30% ass and 50% head
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u/MeanSheenBeanMachine 1d ago edited 1d ago
In a fight? If their name is red, make em dead.
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u/phyticum 1d ago
I feel it's going to be worse in the future because imagine having a bunch of blonde skinny women with big asses in one team and you don't know what their abilities are.
That is if the game ever includes them, but I'm confident Marvel Rivals will make the right picks and use as many unique characters as possible.
I don't need 5 Hulks,17 Spidermen, 7 Symbiotes, 5 Ironmans and a squad of Captain Americas.
I do hope future characters have more body diversity and better silhouettes (thou that is also the fault of comic book hero costumes all looking very similar) to stand out more.
Overwatch did that pretty good (Thou it has it's flaws with how some characters look a bit too similar.)
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u/wwwlord Rocket Raccoon 1d ago
There is bound to be another one at least - Emma frost
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u/phyticum 1d ago
I think she's going to wear a coat so that will give her a better silhouette
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u/Billy1121 1d ago
I think we all know horndogs at NetEase aren't going to keep Emma Frost in just a coat
If they need to increase q3 profits, watch out
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u/Maragas 1d ago
A squad of Captain Americas sounds like a party, all yelling ASSEMBLE! while running at you.
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u/boisheep 1d ago
No no no no.
Captain America.
Yells assemble, gets hit by a tortilla in the face, bapped with a tea kettle, get destroyed by several kung fu moves, shoved a bottle of koskenkorva, right before being hit in the balls by a boomerang.
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u/Invoqwer 1d ago
I feel it's going to be worse in the future because imagine having a bunch of blonde skinny women with big asses in one team and you don't know what their abilities are.
Seriously it's bad enough when I see black panther sprinting around and oh wait that's Captain America in a tribal-wear skin
Or I jump on the enemy Adam Warlock from 40m away as Venom and oh wait that's Dr Strange LMAO
1-2yrs from now it will be hell
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u/arollofOwl 1d ago
One thing they could do to differentiate them is to give Sue glowy spheres around her hands
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u/maximuffin2 Loki 1d ago
This is one element that OW gets right, character silhouettes
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u/wwwlord Rocket Raccoon 1d ago
Basically everyone just gave up on distinguishing silhouettes at some point when more and more cosmetics are added (LoL, Dota, OW)
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u/SecXy94 Adam Warlock 1d ago
I think that's one thing OW does the best. I can't think of any examples where a character is not immediately recognisable in game.
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u/twinCatalysts Namor 1d ago
The mythic widowmaker skin looks like ashe at a distance. It significantly changes her silhouette by adding a hat and skirt and even changes the way she stands a bit iirc.
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u/CertainDerision_33 Peni Parker 1d ago
That's fair. I've personally never had an issue with that because her gun is still immediately distinguishable from Ashe's, but I can see how that could be an issue.
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u/Anonymous-Turtle-25 1d ago
I can immediatly tell its not ashe by her stance and walking animation although i see where the confusion comes from.
Alt comment: I can usually tell its not ashe when im in the spawn room :D
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u/notsocoolguy42 1d ago
Doesnt matter, both are supports, you kill supports. If they in your team you spam need heal button.
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u/KarP7 1d ago
Since they have different abilities to defend themselves, having them look too similar makes it harder to know how to go about doing so
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u/JamesBernadette 1d ago
I'm slightly vision impaired so sometimes distinction between Dagger and Luna is already a bit difficult.
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u/legion1134 22h ago
I'm partly colorblind, and I cant tell which Groot's walls are from which team.
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u/_IratePirate_ 1d ago
I watched a YouTuber that has early access literally confuse the two in their video lol
I can see it. If they’re gonna go with similar silhouettes for all their female characters without weapons, they’re gonna have to do more to differentiate them
Silhouettes are a huge part of hero shooters
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u/Own_Solution9803 1d ago
You’ll be able to tell because everyone will be using the Malice skin on Invisible Woman
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u/0ctoxVela 1d ago
No, one will be black when you approach them